UAC blocks MS Security Essentials on startup

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I am running Vista Home Premium SP2 with Microsoft Security Essentials as my anti virus/malware protection.
When the system is cold booted, instead of the MSE icon appearing in the notification area, another icon appears with the message that ‘Windows has blocked some startup programs”. On clicking this icon there is a drop-down list with an option to “Run blocked program” and hovering on this shows that the only blocked program is Microsoft Security Client User Interface. Clicking on this immediately displays the MSE icon in the notification area. Similarly, if I turn off User Account Control, the MSE icon appears immediately on initial boot-up. On checking ‘msconfig’ and ‘services.msc’ everything appears to be set correctly.

Although this is a stable and constant condition, Microsoft MSE Tech Support have been unable to offer a solution. Any advice will be most welcome.

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When you installed MSE, did you use “run as administrator”?

Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling MSE?

Joe

--Joe

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When you installed MSE, did you use “run as administrator”?

Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling MSE?

Joe

Hi Joe

I did a re-install of MSE (under instructions from Microsoft Tech Support) but they did not mention the need to use “run as administrator”.

After reading your post, and that from Ted Myers, I have again uninstalled and re-installed MSE, right clicking the executable file and using “run as administrator” but UAC is still blocking the startup of Microsoft Security User Interface, but thanks for the advice. I have now turned UAC off and MSE works fine!

deejayden

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Hi Joe

I did a re-install of MSE (under instructions from Microsoft Tech Support) but they did not mention the need to use “run as administrator”.

After reading your post, and that from Ted Myers, I have again uninstalled and re-installed MSE, right clicking the executable file and using “run as administrator” but UAC is still blocking the startup of Microsoft Security User Interface, but thanks for the advice. I have now turned UAC off and MSE works fine!

deejayden

Did you follow the link in post #4 and do what was suggested there? If that did not work see Fix for Vista blocking startup items for a workaround.

Joe

--Joe

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Download and in stall REVO Uninstaller. Use this instead of the Microsoft interface in the Control Panel to uninstall the program. You will be amazed at how much the standard uninstall is leaving in the system. Following a reboot, go directly to Microsoft and download/install the latest version of MSE and all should be well.

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deejayden, Welcome to the Lounge.

Uninstall MSE, then download the installation file from MS. Right click the .exe and choose Run As Administrator. This is how to accomplish the procedure Joe mentions in post #2

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deejayden, Welcome to the Lounge.

Uninstall MSE, then download the installation file from MS. Right click the .exe and choose Run As Administrator. This is how to accomplish the procedure Joe mentions in post #2

Hi Ted

Thanks for your prompt advice.

As you will see from my reply to Joe, re-installing MSE with administrator privileges does not appear to help – UAC still blocks the launch of the Security Client Interface.

While I continue to search for a solution to this problem I have turned off UAC in Control Panel.

Thanks again

deejayden

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Seethis postingfrom the How to Geek.

Jerry

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Nice find Jerry. Always liked How To Geek

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I may be wrong, but I think that won’t solve the problem, it will just stop the warning about the application being blocked, but the blocking will continue.

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Check MSConfig for an unchecked box next to msseces in the startup tab. Also verify the Microsoft anti Malware Service is not unchecked in the services tab.

Jerry

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Check MSConfig for an unchecked box next to msseces in the startup tab. Also verify the Microsoft anti Malware Service is not unchecked in the services tab.

Jerry

Hi Jerry

Thanks for the advice – I can confirm that Microsoft Security Client (msseces.exe) box in msconfig is correctly checked and not disabled. Also in Services.msc, Microsoft Antimalware Service is checked, Started and Automatic.

Regards

deejayden

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I may be wrong, but I think that won’t solve the problem, it will just stop the warning about the application being blocked, but the blocking will continue.

Hi Rui,

I have to agree.. I have several programs that refuse to run at start up on my Vista OS (using it now) I have tried …but so far i have been unsuccessful … I do not have “MSE” or “Defender” on this system, and all “check boxes” are ticked to run at boot.I hope we can figure this one as it’s been plaguing me for a while…:cheers: Regards Fred

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Hi Rui,

I have to agree.. I have several programs that refuse to run at start up on my Vista OS (using it now) I have tried …but so far i have been unsuccessful … I do not have “MSE” or “Defender” on this system, and all “check boxes” are ticked to run at boot.I hope we can figure this one as it’s been plaguing me for a while…:cheers: Regards Fred

Hi Fred,

Maybe there is a solution, but all I have seen, unfortunately, doesn’t point to that :(.

Regards

Rui

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Hi Rui,

I have to agree.. I have several programs that refuse to run at start up on my Vista OS (using it now) I have tried …but so far i have been unsuccessful … I do not have “MSE” or “Defender” on this system, and all “check boxes” are ticked to run at boot.I hope we can figure this one as it’s been plaguing me for a while…:cheers: Regards Fred

Fred,

What specific programs? :cheers:

May the Forces of good computing be with you!

RG

PowerShell & VBA Rule!
Computer Specs

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Fred,

What specific programs? :cheers:

Your”Geekness”

Hello… There are three or four I’ll check on next boot (working with my tractor Maxine now) . So from memory
1. Malwarebytes
2. File hippo
3. Everything.

Thanks …Gotta Go Diesel running, Regards Fred

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Cheeeeech!
Doesn’t anyone just shut off that tired and annoying UAC anymore?

If something is bugging you, remove it!
Complaining about UAC is like complaining about the pain of having a rock in your shoe,
instead of removing the rock.

For those who have no clue, as to how to shut off UAC, here is a little script to do that for you.
http://www.box.net/shared/8d0155pk7y

Download this script, run it and reboot. UAC will no longer bug you.
It’s still there in the HD, but just not running.
I run Take Ownership and UAC so much that I finally just put them in the same script, for my own use.

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Fred, check the event viewer for startup failure clues.

Jerry

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I think it likely that msseces.exe has inadvertently been set to run elevated, and Vista will not allow that at startup without user input.
You might check the Properties of the executable in Program FilesMicrosoft Security Client for that. I’ve heard that this restriction can be
evaded by setting the program to run at logon as a Scheduled Task.

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I have disabled UAC on all my PC’s. I feel that my security schemes combined with Up To Date Images will keep my PC’s safe.

My scheme is as follows:
1) Router with hardware firewall enabled
2) Software firewall, I switched to Online Armor ++and disabled the Windows firewall
3) MSE AV/AM
4) I regularly do manual scans with MalwareBytes and Spybot Search and Destroy.
5) I use Sandboxie whenever I visit new or suspect sites.
6) I delete history and cookies whenever I close my browsers.
7) I always delete unexpected pop ups or emails. I use Task Manager for the pop ups (Ctrl+Alt+Del)

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Here’s another gem from Microsoft.

Their latest review of Knowledge Base article 930367 dated 28th June 2011 and available at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930367 deals with the error message “Windows has blocked some startup programs” in Windows Vista-based computers. It suggests using Software Explorer (in Windows Defender) to remove the offending program. Not much use if a) the ‘offending program’ is part of Microsoft’s own Security Essentials and b) Windows Defender (and Software Explorer) are automatically disabled when Security Essentials is installed!!!

Or maybe I am not understanding Microsofts advice?

deejayden

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Rather than completely disabling UAC try using a tool such as Ultimate Windows Tweaker to tone down UAC. Also, see Change the behavior of UAC.

While UAC can be annoying disabling UAC can lead to your system being less secure.

Joe

--Joe

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I do not disable the UAC, either. I find it behaves acceptably in Windows 7 (in Vista I tweaked it so that it did not dim the background when prompting for user input) and, as Joe says, it’s another layer of protection.

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How To Geekshows 4 ways to make UAC less annoying.

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I may be supplying some useless information; but when I was running Vista, I had a free Norton program “NUACx86” which allowed me to automatically let programs through the user control system. At the time, I did not have MSE installed, so I do not know if this will help but it might be worth a try.

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How To Geekshows 4 ways to make UAC less annoying.

Hee! Hee! I’ve got the easiest way there is.
Just run this little script and it’s GONE. Well, not really GONE, but totally Disabled.

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionPoliciesSystem]
“EnableLUA”=dword:00000000

Just cut and paste the blue lines above into a Notepad document and save it with a name like
KILLUAC.reg

Or if that’s too complicated, click this link, download the program and then run it to shut down UAC.
It can always be turned on again if that is ever desired.

http://www.box.net/shared/8d0155pk7y

While you’re at it, you just as well take full admin control of your PC with this little script:

http://www.box.net/shared/hfjzhq3z64e2f475dvn1

Run the program and it puts itself in the Right Click context menu, so you can take control of
any file or folder. No more of that “you don’t have permission” crap!

These two scripts (programs) when used together make either Vista or Win-7 a whole lot more
user friendly and easier to work with.

Grand Full Admin Control, also works for XP. Neat, Eh?

Cheers Mates!
The Doctor

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