OL 2007 and Vista Home Prem 64 bit

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I’ve noticed that Outlook 2007, which still has what I call the older style menu structure of View, Toolbars, Customize, will reset the menu display to show only partial menu items and display the “more” down arrow. I use the View, Toolbars, Customize menu structure to check “Always show full menus”. A few days later or maybe it is after each shutdown restart (I”ll have to check this) the check mark is gone and I have the short menu display once again. In response to this I navigate View, Toolbars, Customize to again reset the display the way I want it.

I noticed that Outlook 2007, in addition to the different menu structure compared to my other Office 2007 applications such as Word or Excel, Outlook 2007 now forces me to use Word as editor. OK, I think I need to go into Word and make sure that the menu settings for Word are set the way I want, with the equivalent of “Always show full menus” active. However, Word does not appear to have such a setting with the newer menu displays.

I have attached a jpg showing the obvious route to the Customize opton.

Can someone point me in the right direction so the Outlook menus always show the full array of options or entries and I am not regularly checking the little box under View, Toolbars, Customize?

TIA

Jester

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I’ve noticed that Outlook 2007, which still has what I call the older style menu structure of View, Toolbars, Customize, will reset the menu display to show only partial menu items and display the “more” down arrow. I use the View, Toolbars, Customize menu structure to check “Always show full menus”. A few days later or maybe it is after each shutdown restart (I”ll have to check this) the check mark is gone and I have the short menu display once again. In response to this I navigate View, Toolbars, Customize to again reset the display the way I want it.

I noticed that Outlook 2007, in addition to the different menu structure compared to my other Office 2007 applications such as Word or Excel, Outlook 2007 now forces me to use Word as editor. OK, I think I need to go into Word and make sure that the menu settings for Word are set the way I want, with the equivalent of “Always show full menus” active. However, Word does not appear to have such a setting with the newer menu displays.

The method you use is the method describe by Microsoft and several other links I found. You need to try to identify whether this occurs after restarting the PC or just restarting Outlook or some other circumstance.

Do you have Office 2007 SP-2 installed?

Is you Office install up-to-date with patches beyond SP-2?

Joe

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Office 2007 is at SP2, Windows update has all downloads other than 3 optional items installed. A reboot is not required as this change reverts after a closing of Outlook and starting of Outlook.

All Office 2007 apps were uninstalled today with a clean install yet the menus continue to revert back so they do not “always show full menus”.

At this time I will live with it since I don’t see anything in Event Viewer to help me pin down the issue.

Jester

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Office 2007 is at SP2, Windows update has all downloads other than 3 optional items installed. A reboot is not required as this change reverts after a closing of Outlook and starting of Outlook.

All Office 2007 apps were uninstalled today with a clean install yet the menus continue to revert back so they do not “always show full menus”.

At this time I will live with it since I don’t see anything in Event Viewer to help me pin down the issue.

Jester

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Office 2007 is at SP2, Windows update has all downloads other than 3 optional items installed. A reboot is not required as this change reverts after a closing of Outlook and starting of Outlook.

All Office 2007 apps were uninstalled today with a clean install yet the menus continue to revert back so they do not “always show full menus”.

At this time I will live with it since I don’t see anything in Event Viewer to help me pin down the issue.

Jester

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Office 2007 is at SP2, Windows update has all downloads other than 3 optional items installed. A reboot is not required as this change reverts after a closing of Outlook and starting of Outlook.

All Office 2007 apps were uninstalled today with a clean install yet the menus continue to revert back so they do not “always show full menus”.

At this time I will live with it since I don’t see anything in Event Viewer to help me pin down the issue.

Jester

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Office 2007 is at SP2, Windows update has all downloads other than 3 optional items installed. A reboot is not required as this change reverts after a closing of Outlook and starting of Outlook.

All Office 2007 apps were uninstalled today with a clean install yet the menus continue to revert back so they do not “always show full menus”.

At this time I will live with it since I don’t see anything in Event Viewer to help me pin down the issue.

Jester

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Office 2007 is at SP2, Windows update has all downloads other than 3 optional items installed. A reboot is not required as this change reverts after a closing of Outlook and starting of Outlook.

All Office 2007 apps were uninstalled today with a clean install yet the menus continue to revert back so they do not “always show full menus”.

At this time I will live with it since I don’t see anything in Event Viewer to help me pin down the issue.

Jester

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Office 2007 is at SP2, Windows update has all downloads other than 3 optional items installed. A reboot is not required as this change reverts after a closing of Outlook and starting of Outlook.

All Office 2007 apps were uninstalled today with a clean install yet the menus continue to revert back so they do not “always show full menus”.

At this time I will live with it since I don’t see anything in Event Viewer to help me pin down the issue.

Jester

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Office 2007 is at SP2, Windows update has all downloads other than 3 optional items installed. A reboot is not required as this change reverts after a closing of Outlook and starting of Outlook.

All Office 2007 apps were uninstalled today with a clean install yet the menus continue to revert back so they do not “always show full menus”.

At this time I will live with it since I don’t see anything in Event Viewer to help me pin down the issue.

Jester

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I followed you image above and got to the image I have attached. This is what I have and I get FULL menus at ALL menu listings within Outlook.

DaveA I am so far behind, I think I am First
Genealogy....confusing the dead and annoying the living

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I followed you image above and got to the image I have attached. This is what I have and I get FULL menus at ALL menu listings within Outlook.

Thank you, however that is a given for Outlook 2007 and what I want. What I showed in my post was what happens each time I close out of OL 2007 on my Vista Home Premium 64 bit box. The check mark is always removed.

What I am looking for is not what is supposed to be norm but why the configuration setting is NOT saving.

Jester

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I followed you image above and got to the image I have attached. This is what I have and I get FULL menus at ALL menu listings within Outlook.

DaveA I am so far behind, I think I am First
Genealogy....confusing the dead and annoying the living

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I followed you image above and got to the image I have attached. This is what I have and I get FULL menus at ALL menu listings within Outlook.

DaveA I am so far behind, I think I am First
Genealogy....confusing the dead and annoying the living

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I followed you image above and got to the image I have attached. This is what I have and I get FULL menus at ALL menu listings within Outlook.

DaveA I am so far behind, I think I am First
Genealogy....confusing the dead and annoying the living

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I followed you image above and got to the image I have attached. This is what I have and I get FULL menus at ALL menu listings within Outlook.

DaveA I am so far behind, I think I am First
Genealogy....confusing the dead and annoying the living

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I followed you image above and got to the image I have attached. This is what I have and I get FULL menus at ALL menu listings within Outlook.

DaveA I am so far behind, I think I am First
Genealogy....confusing the dead and annoying the living

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I followed you image above and got to the image I have attached. This is what I have and I get FULL menus at ALL menu listings within Outlook.

DaveA I am so far behind, I think I am First
Genealogy....confusing the dead and annoying the living

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I followed you image above and got to the image I have attached. This is what I have and I get FULL menus at ALL menu listings within Outlook.

DaveA I am so far behind, I think I am First
Genealogy....confusing the dead and annoying the living

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I have the same setup, and my Full Menus option stays on just like Dave’s. Do you have any addins installed in Outlook? Also, does the option get turned off each time you exit Outlook?

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I have the same setup, and my Full Menus option stays on just like Dave’s. Do you have any addins installed in Outlook? Also, does the option get turned off each time you exit Outlook?

Thank you. I know the “full menu” staying on if the box is checked is the norm, that is what I want after years of using Office 2003.

Each time I close OL 2007 the check mark clears. I am using Lookeen’s indexer but have nothing else active. I have used both Lookout and Lookeen for years without interference from either indexer.

Last week I uninstalled Office 2007 and reinstalled same. I have renamed the Outcmd.dat file to force a new one and the file date changes so some updates are being written to that file.

Jester

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Outlook 2007 was a significant departure from 2003 even thought they didn’t adopt the much maligned “ribbon” (Outlook 2010 does), so I would try uninstalling both of the Lookout and Lookeen addins and see if things get better. Lookout has not been updated since 2005 (predating Outlook 2007) and their website indicates that functionality has been purchased by Microsoft and incorporated in the Toolbars – whatever that means. One of the enhancements in 2007 was to improve the search functionallity, and I routinely do searches on over 30K archived and active emails in a matter of seconds. If one of those is the culprits, I think you will find the existing search capabilities adequate.

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so I would try uninstalling both of the Lookout and Lookeen addins and see if things get better. Lookout has not been updated since 2005 (predating Outlook 2007) and their website indicates that functionality has been purchased by Microsoft and incorporated in the Toolbars – whatever that means..

The Lookout product was listed and available for a short time from Microsoft’s web site but that technology was either dumped like many other products (Foxpro anyone?) and supposedly integrated into the MS Desktop search product, which may or may not remain or it may have been sucked into OL or the search feature you reference may actually be an OS search that is available across the Office apps.

The strange thing, without doing anything, my menus now are defaulting to “Always show full menus”.

I remain puzzled and skeptical as to what went on and what might rear its ugly and awkward face in the future.

Jester

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