• 5 flavors of Linux and not a sound out of them

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    I’ve installed 5 or more versions of Linux and not one
    of them will use the sound card(s).

    Dell Optiplex / Pen3/ 600
    Has a built in sound card ‘and’ a soundblaster card

    Under Windows-XX the sound card(s) works just fine
    load in any version of Linux and I’ve got nothing.

    Just updated to the newest version of Ubuntu — NO JOY!
    Had it check for hardware drivers and it found none.

    Grandpa Bill

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    • #1221710

      What is the exact make and model of the sound card?
      Find out the above information and check the card’s manufacturer for “Linux” drivers and or support.

    • #1221739

      I’ve installed 5 or more versions of Linux and not one
      of them will use the sound card(s).

      Dell Optiplex / Pen3/ 600
      Has a built in sound card ‘and’ a soundblaster card

      Under Windows-XX the sound card(s) works just fine
      load in any version of Linux and I’ve got nothing.

      Just updated to the newest version of Ubuntu — NO JOY!
      Had it check for hardware drivers and it found none.

      Grandpa Bill

      Grandpa Bill,
      Hello, you could try and post the question on the the “Linux” forum…http://forums.linuxmint.com/ they have provided me with some measure of success with Mint Helena. Use their “Newbie” forum as they all speak in “CLI” (command line) in most of the other forums.Still having some wireless card problems, seems my learning curve is at a stand still for now. Regards Fred

    • #1221919

      Hi Grandpa Bill,

      Linuxmint should be the easiest flavor to resolve the sound card difficulty. Have you used Synaptic to locate all possible sound card drivers? And have you found any proprietary drivers listed for your card in Synaptic?

      And Fred, Mint normally supplies a couple of proprietary wireless card drivers that work very well. The big problem I had is that due to the wireless not initially functioning, I was unable to download the drivers! If you are having the same difficulty, plug in an Ethernet cable from your computer to your router to download the drivers. That worked for me and once I got the proprietary driver installed, the wireless took off.

    • #1221922

      Hey Guys,
      Funny you should mention “LinuxMint” — I just saw that on another post and got it
      installed last night and about 300 updates, but it’s a ‘no-go’ too.

      Had it run the search for drivers and came up blank.

      As for checking on the sound blaster’s site came up blank several Linux versions
      ago. Nothing in the Dell Camp either.

      Thought it maybe a bad set of speakers, but that can’t be as I had sound with
      windoes installed, but I even hooked up my headset with mike…. “NO JOY!”

      The one thing nice was it found my networked laser printer and found/installed the
      drivers without a hitch. Was Printing a test page in under 5 minutes.

      OH! Quick Side question: Where do I find a way to change the network name?
      Right now it shows as “WorkGroup” on all my XP/Win7 machines — need to
      change it to my default network name.

      Grandpa Bill

    • #1221923

      Grandpa Bill, have you checked to see if a more recent BIOS update exists for your computer? If so, that may help resolve the sound issue with Linux.

      You can change your workgroup name on the System page in Control Panel in XP and Win7. If there are any other questions related to the Windows side of things we need to start a new thread in one of the Windows forums.

      • #1221978

        Grandpa Bill, have you checked to see if a more recent BIOS update exists for your computer? If so, that may help resolve the sound issue with Linux.

        You can change your workgroup name on the System page in Control Panel in XP and Win7. If there are any other questions related to the Windows side of things we need to start a new thread in one of the Windows forums.

        NO — NO Not on the entire network …. just want to change the Linux machine to the rest of my network.

        • #1222000

          NO — NO Not on the entire network …. just want to change the Linux machine to the rest of my network.

          Sorry about that Grandpa Bill. I totally misunderstood. Here is where you can change the workgroup name in Mint Linux (or Ubuntu for that matter).

          Press Alt+F2

          Type gksu gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf

          Find the following line ( it’s somewhere in the very beginning of the file.

          # Change this to the workgroup/NT-domain name your Samba server will part of
          workgroup = workgroup (<<<< this side is the one to be changed to whatever name your workgroup is).

          You will probably find that it is already set up as WORKGROUP, as this example shows.

    • #1222091

      Hey Gerald,
      Thinks for the command line…. for some reason it wouldn’t work
      from that window… (Either nothing happened or it was a “Ready Only”
      view.

      So I opened a terminal and tried it there — same thing…. but then
      remembered to do the “SU” first then typed your line and that time it
      worked just fine.

      (Still ‘NoJoy’ on the sound card .. still looking for drivers.)

      GB

    • #1222356

      If you go to the Hardware tab on the Sound Preferences dialog (on an Ubuntu machine running Gnome, this is under Preferences | Sound), what hardware is listed? And which Profile setting is selected? Also, on the Output tab, what is listed and what is selected? Sometime you have to try other selections (for hardware, Profile and output) to see which one (or combination) works.

      Also, if you have multiple line-out connectors (I have one in the back of the box and another on the front) you might need to try the speakers in each of them (I once had the situation where the speakers worked just fine from the front panel but not from the back!)

      Another thought – did you disable the on-motherboard sound in the BIOS? If not, try doing that. You might need to run with the Live CD so that Linux sees only the Soundblaster card and doesn’t get confused.

    • #1222413

      Here’s the screenshots:
      Linux Default Theme

      No Drivers in use

      Hardware settings: Internal Audio

      Shows nothing

    • #1222569

      Just a quick note – you can take screen shots in Ubuntu using the Take Screenshot utility. You can find it under the start menu at Applications | Accessories | Take Screenshot. (There is a similar utility for KDE users.) The utility lets you capture the full screen, a window or a region (you can select what to copy.) The utility lets you save the screenshot as a file.

      • #1222576

        Just a quick note – you can take screen shots in Ubuntu using the Take Screenshot utility. You can find it under the start menu at Applications | Accessories | Take Screenshot. (There is a similar utility for KDE users.) The utility lets you capture the full screen, a window or a region (you can select what to copy.) The utility lets you save the screenshot as a file.

        Nothing is setup on the linux box…. no email…only did a couple of plugins in FF.

        I’ve got PaintShop Pro11 on all my windows machines and have used that for
        years….. I’ve never opened ‘Gimp’ so won’t know where to start on it.

        Linux and windoes won’t play nice… I can see the linux box but not the drives or
        files…. Says ‘Empty’ Don’t remember if I even saw a network list on the linux box…..
        I’ll have to take a look at that. (Just checked it and yes it sees all the Windows
        machines but says it can’t mount them.) So I can’t send the screenshots over to
        any of the other machines via the network.

        When posting or getting email about a post I’m always on a Windoes machine.
        (Win7 this time.)

        GB

    • #1222577

      It looks likes the SoundBlaster card is not being seen; at least that is what I think that the hardware type of “Internal Audio Analog Stereo” means. I have seen discussions on other forums about problems with SoundBlaster on Linux (mainly lack of drivers).

      At the bottom of the hardware tab there will be a drop-down box of profiles, try changing those and see if it helps.

    • #1222579

      only did a couple of plugins in FF

      You can access the forums in Firefox on Ubuntu, right??

      I’ve never opened ‘Gimp’ so won’t know where to start on it.

      No gimp needed, the screenshot utility lets you save files in a number of formats.

      Linux and windoes won’t play nice… I can see the linux box but not the drives or files..

      I always transfer files while sitting at the Linux machine. If I have a share on Windows named \mypcnamesomeshare, then in the File Manager on Linux I enter this in the address box:

      smb://mypcname/someshare

      Then I am usually asked for the Windows login, after which the Windows share is shown. (You can easily share folders in Windows by right-clicking and selecting Share… I recommend creating a specific directory, such as c:sharing, and use that to transfer files from one machine to another (unless you are running Windows Professional, in which case I have an even better solution)

    • #1222597

      “Everything is ‘Pro’…. XP and Win7”
      All the Windows machines are set to share all
      drives/files/folders on the network system.

    • #1222604

      Since you are using Pro, there is a administrative share that has the same name as the disk drive with a $ suffix. Thus I connect using:

      smb://mypcname/c$

      That gives me access to the whole C: drive. Ditto for D:, E:, etc.

      • #1222641

        Since you are using Pro, there is a administrative share that has the same name as the disk drive with a $ suffix. Thus I connect using:

        smb://mypcname/c$

        That gives me access to the whole C: drive. Ditto for D:, E:, etc.

        Looks like I’m gonna have writers cramps …. 5 windows machines and several
        of them have “C to Y” drives, (not including the external and network drives).

    • #1222650

      Sound Card update:

      Removed Creative sound card and reactivated the Dell built-in card
      On reboot Linux sees “NOTHING” now — search for drivers ‘ZIP’/ Zero!

      Found another creative sound card, (CT4520) rebooted and again
      I’ve got nothing.

      Found website: NoDevice.com has a ton of drivers but not one of
      the linux drivers were for my card…. nor for the Dell.

      GB

      • #1224942

        Sound Card update:

        Removed Creative sound card and reactivated the Dell built-in card
        On reboot Linux sees “NOTHING” now — search for drivers ‘ZIP’/ Zero!

        Found another creative sound card, (CT4520) rebooted and again
        I’ve got nothing.

        Found website: NoDevice.com has a ton of drivers but not one of
        the linux drivers were for my card…. nor for the Dell.

        GB

        Hi GB,

        Any luck with the sound card(s) in Linux?

        Overall, Sound Blaster cards are pretty well supported in Linux. It could be a hardware related problem or something to do with Ubuntu (Mint and several other distributions are based on Ubuntu so they will likely have similar configurations under the hood).

    • #1224949

      I’ve upgraded to a newer Dell but still had problems with
      Mint/ Ubuntu/ Suse.

      I’m working on “PuppyLinux 500” now and I have it installed
      on a thumb drive, but having a problem with grub to let me
      boot up to the hard drive install….

      The thumb drive took several tries but I finally got the sound
      card to work in it, now if I can get past the grub looping problem
      I can transfer all my settings to the hard drive.

      (The thumb drive runs only in ‘RAM’)

      GB

      • #1225088

        I’ve upgraded to a newer Dell but still had problems with
        Mint/ Ubuntu/ Suse.

        I’m working on “PuppyLinux 500” now and I have it installed
        on a thumb drive, but having a problem with grub to let me
        boot up to the hard drive install….

        The thumb drive took several tries but I finally got the sound
        card to work in it, now if I can get past the grub looping problem
        I can transfer all my settings to the hard drive.

        (The thumb drive runs only in ‘RAM’)

        GB

        The sound problems are pretty odd given that most Dell PCs use fairly standard sound cards (except maybe the really old Dell PCs that had the S3 video cards and chipsets). During the past few years the only time I’ve run into a problem with sound was during the switch from ESD to PulseAudio. In Linux, programs usually send audio to a sound server like ESD or PulseAudio. The advantage is that multiple programs can generate audio at the same time (the sound server mixes the multiple audio streams). The sound server is also not limited to the same computer (i.e. a music player can run on one PC and the audio comes out from the speakers on a different PC). There’s also the ability to combine multiple sound cards for interesting effects like 3-D sound, etc.

        Is Puppy Linux also installed on the hard drive? Is the Dell mostly a test system or are you planning on using it on a regular basis as a main computer? The reason I ask is if it’s going to be used regularly and has 512 MB or more of RAM, I’d recommend sticking with Ubuntu (10.04 was released last month and it’s a LTS = Long Term Support version that’ll be supported for the next 3 years or more).

        For the sound problem, if you do switch back to Ubuntu and don’t mind providing a little detailed info about the hardware, I should be able to help you get it set up with minimal work. There are several “Device Manager”- style programs in Linux for viewing the hardware profile, but the “lspci” command is easy to use and it’s handy for copying-n-pasting the output. Open a terminal and type “lspci”. It’ll dump info about all of the PCI devices that are installed. Unless it’s a really old computer, the sound card will be a PCI device. From the output, we can figure out exactly what driver will be needed.

        Chung

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