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AskWoody LoungerThanks Medico. I will be working on it using your guidelines. If I am successful I will let you know. If I run into stumbling blocks I will get back to you with the details.
With best regards,
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AskWoody LoungerThat is one of the things I used to hate about Norton. It always seemed to be very obtrusive. And it always seemed to be difficult to control. I finally wised up and got rid of it. My system speeded up and I got a free AV such as Avast or now MSE which does as good a job and has a much smaller footprint. Plus MSE includes an AV and Anti Malware that is very good. Use a good uninstaller such as Revo Uninstaller to get rid of Nortonn.
Thanks for the reply Ted. I am not in love with Norton but I think I will try to live with it for a while. This action by Norton to control the Recycle Bin is extremely obtrusive and particularly so when it is done without advice or notification.
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AskWoody LoungerNorton Protection Recycle Bin is likely to be a combination of the Windows RB and Norton. It indicates that you have Norton installed. If Norton is not installed it will be a left over from a Norton installation and you should try the Norton un-installer to clean up the remains.
cheers, Paul
Thanks Paul, it does appear that Norton has usurped control of the Recycle Bin. The number of items that show up in the bin daily is amazing and most of the titles are in some code. There may be a reason for this arrangement but it came as a surprise to me and I haven’t yet learned how to deal with it.
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AskWoody Lounger[ I’m glad a lot of the familiar faces are still here. That helps! I appreciate their dedication and the friendship! ]
Well said Skitterbug. I too have appreciated the dedication and friendship of the moguls that run the lounge. I do hope the spirit of the lounge is not lost.
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AskWoody LoungerCan anyone recommend a remote email checker as mail2web which l current use appear
to be constantly down.Is there a good alternative , which allows you to put your fav links on the site to?
i.e. a customisable home page?Any help would be appreciated.
I have used Firetrust Mailwasher Pro for several years. So far it has worked quite satisfactorily for me. In conjunction with this I use Firetrust Benign. For acquiring these programs see Bigaldoc’s reply that gives a link to Firetrust.
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AskWoody LoungerRon,
I have YET to have the need to use an ATM. Haven’t even bothered to get PIN numbers.
Plan ahead, get my cash before hand. I get out of the car and WALK into the bank, greet the teller and get my transactions done. Even get a smile from the teller!Same here. I go into the bank for all my transactions. It may not always be the handiest thing to do but I do feel safer. I have had to show ID to a new teller once in a while but this is a small thing and they are correct if they do not know me.
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AskWoody LoungerThanks gentlemen. Stupid Microsoft naming !!!
I couldn’t imagine that they went to strictly web based email, but the naming is ambiguous and confusing at best.
I suppose I’ll be upgrading myself in the next few weeks. I really don’t like theinterface of IE7 & 8 and am very comfortable in my “old sweater” Outlook Express, but one can’t afford to be too far behind the curve with computer technology or you end up off the road and out of touch.
Doc,
I hope you will try Windodws Live Mail when you change. We can then commiserate on this adventure.
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AskWoody LoungerThanks again for you reply Doc. I certainly meant no offense. I do know that you and Hans and all the others are absolutely the best in the business and would not withhold any info at all.
One thing I do notice now is that when I delete a message from the In Box in Windows Live Mail I do get a delayed sound. Not as immediate as before but it occurs every time I delete a message. I will continue to observe this and if it changes I will certaihly let you know.
I apreciate your help.
Sincerely,
SlimAdded information.
When I thought the sound was just delayed after I deleted an item in my In Box I was actually getting the sound from clicking on the next item in the In Box and not from a delayed reaction to deleting the previous item. It turns out that every time I click on any item in the In Box I get sound.
I suppose this is normal for Windows Live Mail.
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AskWoody LoungerIf there was a sound, which I doubt, it would have to have been added by the OEM because, based on this Google search, I have to believe that OE does NOT play any sound file when deleting a message.
Even if you knew what the sound was, there is no place to put it in OE short of doing a major registry hack to insert it and even then another major hack would be required to have access to the sound in the GUI.
I sincerely hope that you do not feel that we are deliberately withholding information or making fun of you. The tone of your reply seems to indicate irritation at being told you may be incorrect. If there were a way to have this sound in either OE or Windows Live Mail and we knew about it or could find the answer for you we would not keep it a secret.
Windows may have secrets…. we here at Woody’s Lounge do not.
Thanks again for you reply Doc. I certainly meant no offense. I do know that you and Hans and all the others are absolutely the best in the business and would not withhold any info at all.
One thing I do notice now is that when I delete a message from the In Box in Windows Live Mail I do get a delayed sound. Not as immediate as before but it occurs every time I delete a message. I will continue to observe this and if it changes I will certaihly let you know.
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AskWoody LoungerAFAIK there is no sound when you delete a message from the inbox of Outlook Express. There is a sound when a message arrives that can be changed or turned off on the Sounds tab in Sounds, Speech, and Audio Devices in Control Panel as New Mail Notification.
Thanks for your reply Doc. I used Outlook Express for years and there was a sound when I deleted a message from my In Box. Maybe my program was different from yours but there was a sound. All I wanted to do was regain the sound as I deleted a message from Windows Live Mail. If this is not possible with Windows Live Mail then so be it. But If there is a way to have the sound I would appreciate info on how to get it.
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AskWoody LoungerAugust 10, 2009 at 6:24 pm in reply to: Windows Live Mail not recognized by Internet Explorer #1172957Use the “Sync” button to send & receive. Also, check your settings at Tools | Options | General.
Joe
Thanks Joe. I think I have things moving a bit now — not running but limping along. I had to chuckle at the way to receive the e-mail i.e. click on Sync to download. Kinda reminded me of how to go about shutting down i.e. first you click on Start. I’m sure things will be smoother as familiarity develops.
Many thanks for your help.
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AskWoody LoungerAugust 9, 2009 at 11:03 pm in reply to: Windows Live Mail not recognized by Internet Explorer #1172833Have you checked the Preferences or Options settings in MailWasher and those for your keyboard’s “special” hotkeys to be certain that they are pointing to Live Mail as your email client ??
Thanks for your reply Doc.
When I brought up Mailwasher I clicked on Settings. Then on the left I clicked on E-Mail Accounts. At the bottom was a box Run Wizard. I clicked on this and the Wizard allowed me to select Windows Live Mail as my e-mail program.
So now I can go from Mailwasher to Windows Live Mail.
However, I cannot find how to download my e-mail to Windows Live Mail. In Outlook Express there is a Send/Recieve button. I cannot locate anything comparable in Windows Live Mail.
What am I missing ??
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AskWoody LoungerMicrosoft’s naming is very confusing.
Windows Live Hotmail is a webmail service – the successor of (or new name of) Hotmail.
Windows Live Mail is a stand-alone e-mail client. It can be used to access (Windows Live) Hotmail but also to access standard (pop3) e-mail.Thanks Hans for this info.
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AskWoody LoungerDear Hans and Joe,
Thanks for your reply. I’m glad to learn that you do not consider Windodws Live Mail an orphan.
I currently have a program called Windows Live Hotmail installed listed as an option for using
e-mail in Internet Explorer. Is there a difference between Windows Live Mail and Windows Live Hotmail ?? Which would be your preference ??
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AskWoody LoungerOutlook Express is entering its “end-of-life” phase. It will continue working, but it will no longer be supported by Microsoft. You will still be able to use it for your ‘normal’ e-mail.
Microsoft will discontinue WebDAV, the protocol used to access Hotmail from Outlook Express, on September 1, 2009. They originally planned to do that in 2008, but extended it for a year after protests.
You can freely download and install the successor to Outlook Express: Windows Live Mail. It uses a newer protocol to access Hotmail, and it is more stable than Outlook Express.
Hans,
Have you switched to Windows Live Mail? From the link you gave for downloading Windows Live Mail it appears to be an orphan child instead of a main line program.
I did read Woody Leonard’s article in Windows Secrets in which he recommends dropping Outlook Express at this time but he was not that positive that Windows Live Mail was the best alternative. What are your views on this situation??
Best Regards,
Slim
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