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AskWoody LoungerGreat, many thanks, easy when one knows how. Regards Dave.
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AskWoody Lounger…..please, I beg your pardon friends regarding the final half sentence which reads …..since sliced bread. This must have appeared as absolute gobble-de-gook especially to none UK readers being without any sense or reason for it should have read : – “This web site is the best thing since sliced bread.” …. which is a common saying here in the UK when something good happens. Finally thanks Dave.
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AskWoody LoungerA word of sincere personal thanks to all who responded to my numerous posts to the lounge as this thread has protracted to one of the longest I have seen though I did notice one by the Duchess843 which went to 22 posts. Incidentally, it was the Duchess that first pointed me to the folder called “Recycler” which I located in the first “Search” and which the folder when scanned with AVG pinpointed the (BackDoor.Flood) horror. I did a sweep with AVG late last night and got a clean bill of health SO, once more I express my sincere thanks for every contribution made on the lounge during this thread. Must tell all my friends about it, (as we say here in the UK) ….since Sliced Bread. Regards Dave.
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AskWoody LoungerHello Duchess843. Where have you been since I first posted my question? I seem to have been going round in ever decreasing circles yet ever wider fields of possibilities, searching for & without success but within minutes of searching for the folder named “Recycler” as you suggested, the offending folder was exposed. I deleted the contents of the folder and with great anticipation did a scan with AVG BUT as the attachment shows, the gremlin is still lurking somewhere in the bowels of the computer & seems to refuse to be deleted. Though jscher2000 seems to feel there is little to fear from this intruder I am still suspicious and would feel much happier if it went down the plug hole once and for all. PS note the report says it is not HEALABLE Dave.
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AskWoody LoungerEdited by Big Al to “crop” the graphic to a smaller size, i.e. get rid of unnecessary portion of the picture.
Hi Jerry, let’s hope that theory works. Here is the screen shot of what is in the C:Documents and Settings, folder. To assist in the investigation perhaps I can say what is in the folder. The untitled folder on the left has the following folders in it :- Applications Data; Cookies; Desktop; Favourites; My Documents; Start Menu; User Update; Windows; Default; NTUSER; the last two not being folders as such but look like CD discs with a right arrow in them. The folder to the right has these folders in it : – Desktop; Favourites; Shared Documents; Start Menu; ntuser, Incidentally, this is by the way but when I took a screen shot of the said folder, copied into Microsoft Photo Editor, clicked on the “Select” tab to choose only the relevant details of the shot then clicked on “Edit” again as instructed, I was told a re-sized image should be saved but I find that the original larger one saves instead. Result; one of my recent attachments was doctored by Hans to make it a reasonable size for the forum. What am I doing wrong if anything? Thanks Dave.
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AskWoody LoungerHello Jerry, As I mentioned in my reply of 6th Nov instant, Yes there are two users of the computer but my daughter only has a folder on my desktop so when either of us switches on, only my desktop appears. I have checked the Recycle Bin details / settings and as far as I understand, the attachment shows the one bin is where deleted files end up regardless of who has deleted them. From what jscher2000 says, it seems the intruder is nothing to really worry about so I feel a little more relaxed about it, however, I would be even more content if it could be eliminated altogether so any further advice would be appreciated. Regards Dave.
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AskWoody LoungerHello BigAl, excuse my ignorance but does Avast serve the same purpose as AVG, would you suggest it has any advantages over the latter sufficient to warrant replacing it? Regards Dave.
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AskWoody LoungerHello Scher, I’m sure you have reason from the information supplied (as have others) for deducing it is in the Recycle Bin but I can assure you there is nothing visible in there as I empty it after every session. Could it be it is there but as a Hidden file? The only other user is my daughter so are there perchance two Recycle Bins? Incidentally, the computer is not set up for two separate users with individual passwords, she simply has a folder on the desktop which I NEVER NEVER open. Regards & thanks again, Dave.
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AskWoody LoungerEdited by StuartR to reduce width of graphic
SORRY for my ineptitude, forgot to attach the screen shot, here it is… dave
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AskWoody LoungerHi Guys, just done another scan with AVG which found & tried to delete the said virus but as the screen shot shows, it is unable to. Regards Dave.
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AskWoody LoungerHello all. I’m sorry not to have responded earlier, had unexpected demands on my free time. I will try to answer the numerous points raised in this reply. If I miss some point made please forgive me but the drama has dragged on longer than I anticipated. More than one of you seemed to be puzzled by my comment that the AVG free prog was fully up to date and protecting my computer but that it was reporting that a virus was present. How I came to make this claim is based on the screen shot [which I hope is attached] confirming the same. As recommended, I performed a “Search” for the virus name [OCXDLL.EXE ] but nothing was found. In my naivety I thought that there may be some currency in performing a System Restore (which I have done several times in the past) but it failed three times with the warning that it was not successful, so maybe that will suggest a link with the virus which (on one report pane) is said to be located in On another report this information is given; C:RECYCLERS-1-5-21-6067471-1058031214-725345543=500script.ini . If that bamboozles you readers think of dummies like me who grew up with the ABACUS, when there was just one TV in the village & pocket calculators were science fiction. That’s why the likes of me ask you to tread slowly with your 21st century knowledge. The screen shot proves three things; 1 The Security status assurance me that the AVG package is fully up to date and functioning properly; 2 The IRC/BackDoor.Flood virus is present; 3 The “Threats Found” report shows the intruder was NOT healed, deleted or moved to the vault. So that is the dilemma friends, I hope the attachment explains the predicament & someone can point me in the right direction. Regards Dave.
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AskWoody LoungerHi. Responding to both replies; Just done as you said, a search for it but none was found yet I have since done a full scan with AVG and the Security Status report, though assuring me “All components are installed and fully working”, indicates the said virus is present. The prog. then tried to “Heal” the intruder but as on each of the previous occasions, failed. [Incidentally, this is what other victims of this attack claim as is seen if one Googles for this virus, some have had the virus showing twice but only one will delete.]
With a view to sending the report as an attachment I have taken a screen shot of it and using Microsoft Photo Editor, cropped it to reduce it’s size and saved it as a jpeg but, can’t seem to reduce it to less than less than 174 KB. though I have in the past sent a couple of attachments successfully using this method. Is there (as a one off), an email address I can sent the Word doc to with the three screen shots as an attachment? It would prove what seems to be a paradox to be true.
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AskWoody LoungerHi Hans, the penny has dropped, be fore I saw the notification in my IN box of your post I had clicked on the “Post Box” tab and read bid Al’s message….. slowly getting the hang of the different aspects of this forum, but thanks anyway. Dave.
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AskWoody LoungerHi Big Al, resend it to my personal email address as I may have deleted it seeing this is my policy when I get an email from a sender that is not in my address book, can’t be too careful. Ever week I get emails from senders I don’t know also some with no subject so they just get blocked then deleted. For those who read this site who understand code a little I will sign myself off as A.S.S.B.G. The last letter standing for grace……. no doubt judging by the vast number of location that contributors write from there must be someone who is on the same wavelength and will decipher the anachronism. REgards Dave.
Ps. Incidentally! how many time have readers noticed that when they type a word like “Regards” it appears like this “REgards”. As happened above, is there a simple explanation other than the fact [as a friend of mine who is a touch typist concluded] I must be typing too fast. Seems a little odd to me as I am a two finger boff. Sorry for digressing from the original thread theme folks. -
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AskWoody LoungerThanks Hans & all, I have downloaded ZA and trust things are as stable as they have been with IE. If anything untoward transpires I will bring it to the forum so others can learn as i have from the vast variety of threads. Cheers dave
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