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Thanks.  Would appreciate thoughts and ideas from Woody’s members also.

Opinions vary depending on lived experiences.

Windows 10 Pro x64 v22H2 and Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 (RIP)

OK, the answer is you have to follow the Microsoft install path and provide both the email address you are signing up, and on the screen after selecting your desired connection type (POP) or another, enter your email Password. Only then can you access manual inputs.

Even tho/if you selected Advanced/Manual setup on the first screen, Microsoft will proceed to finish setting up Outlook 2024 and Automatically connect/attempt to connect you to your email address provider.
In my case it did a good job with AT&T.
It will create a “Your Name” = your email address.
It also creates a new “Outlook Files” folder with a .pst file named after your email address. (see my new post asking how to merge my previous Outlook 2016 .pst with/into this one).

After the setup completes, you have normal access to the File > Account Settings for manual adjustments to the email address via inside the app or from the Control Panel.

 

Windows 10 Pro x64 v22H2 and Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 (RIP)

Kathy Stevens wrote:

Click Connect to go to the Advance setup page,

On the Advanced setup page select POP or IMAP

Then you should be able to setup your account by filling in the blanks, selecting Ports, selecting encryption (or not), and checking the box in front of Secure Password Authentication if you want.

The app opens to a small screen that wants the Email address, allows the Advanced options selection, and a Connect button.

However after I select POP, the next screen confirms my given email address and shows the words “POP Account settings” at the top of a rather empty screen which is now requesting the Password.

Will the next screen let me perform the manual setup or automatically try to set up my email with no further input (my concern)?

Windows 10 Pro x64 v22H2 and Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 (RIP)

Drcard:)) wrote:

I’m not sure, but I will find out for sure when I get Office 2024 to go on my Window 11 PC which has only a local account to run Windows. I suspect it will be like my Windows 10 and Office 2019 setup:

Windows 10 does not have a MS linked account on the PC, but I do have a MS account complete with a different password. When I setup my Office I had to enter that email address and password of the MS account (not that of the PC’s account) to connect to my MS account and activate it. Once activated it has stayed activated and updated.

This is my exact situation only I installed Office 2016 back in 2018 – Local Account for Windows 10 Pro PC, had to get MS Account to be able to install Office, but then signed out and never back into.

Drcard:)) wrote:

I do not expect it to be different (even the Office 2019 was a download install) and I suspect my same MS account that is not tied to any Windows login account will activate it.

My understanding this is true, However you can choose to create a separate new MS Account to use strictly for installing a new Office 2024, which I am going to do since it is a new computer also.  Just more record keeping.

Drcard:)) wrote:

Like usual with MS, the naming confusing everything. “You must have a MS account” is true, but the MS account does not have be a login account on the PC.

Don’t understand comment?  I understand that you have to set up or add to an existing MS Office Account thru your PC. But that MS Office Account does not turn your Local Account PC into a MS Account PC. I understand a separate MS Office Account is preferred when you are using it solely to install an Office program on a PC that has a Local Account.

Windows 10 Pro x64 v22H2 and Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 (RIP)

Cybertooth wrote:

does it mean that Office 2024 will refuse to run (or perhaps even install) if I’m not signed into a MS Account?

Office 2024 will not install without going thru a MS Account, but my understanding is that you do not have to remain “signed in” for it to function after installation.

Anyone heard/know any differently?

Windows 10 Pro x64 v22H2 and Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 (RIP)

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Cybertooth

Tex265 wrote:

However, unlike my Windows 10, in Windows 11 the Antivirus Definitions are not showing up in, or being held up on the Settings > Windows Update  screen, or are they showing up in the Windows Update > Update history > Definition Updates area.

The Antivirus Definitions are downloading/installing from “somewhere” into Settings >Privacy & security > Windows Security > Virus & threat protection without showing or holding on the Windows Update screen.

UPDATE:

While the above regarding the Antivirus Definitions is still true, the recently received “Update for Windows Security platform” did:  show in the WU window & pend there & after download/install, register in the Definitions Update history.

The Antivirus Definitions that arrived at the same/similar time did not. It automatically installed per previous commentary and did not appear in the Definitions Update history.

Windows 10 Pro x64 v22H2 and Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 (RIP)

@Alex5723

Your image is exactly what my Windows 10 does/shows also, this/that does not show up on my Windows 11 Pro even though the Definitions are automatically downloading and installing correctly on my system.  They don’t appear in the Windows Update history either.

Perhaps this is the Windows 11 way?

Windows 10 Pro x64 v22H2 and Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 (RIP)

Don’t think so, doesn’t sound familiar.

Can you give me the GP path?

Windows 10 Pro x64 v22H2 and Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 (RIP)

Yes.

Event Viewer shows nothing regarding Updates.

Reliability Report shows the Security Intelligence name, KB#, Version #, and “Successful Windows Update, for each day.

But still strange that they do not show on the Windows Update screen, or appear on the Windows Update > Update history > Definitions update.

Wonder if any of the “traditional Woody’s recommended Group Policy settings” are conflicting with Window 11 Pro 24H2?

Windows 10 Pro x64 v22H2 and Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 (RIP)

Thanks all, but let me try to state the problem again:

This is regarding what my new computer with Windows 11 Pro is doing (actually is not doing) regarding its’ Antivirus Definitions activity. ( I only referred to my Windows 10 as a reference for what I think the Windows 11 “should” be doing – See Alex’s post above).

However, unlike my Windows 10, in Windows 11 the Antivirus Definitions are not showing up in, or being held up on the Settings > Windows Update  screen, or are they showing up in the Windows Update > Update history > Definition Updates area.

The Antivirus Definitions are downloading/installing from “somewhere” into Settings >Privacy & security > Windows Security > Virus & threat protection without showing or holding on the Windows Update screen.

Per my opening above: I have set up the usual Woody’s recommended Window Updates holds via Group Policy before connecting to the Internet. (Automatic Updates  #2, Exclude drivers, Target Feature version, etc),

I also have ALL settings turned OFF in the Windows  Update > Advanced Options area.

Am I doing something wrong or turned something off?

 

Windows 10 Pro x64 v22H2 and Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 (RIP)

Tex265 wrote:

pls comment regarding the AntiVirus Definitions coming down and installing without a notice or hold OR appearing in the Update History area

Thanks, but however the Antivirus updates are getting here my Windows 10 Pro has always (and still daily) shows them as held on my Windows 10 update screen (usually the only item on the screen that day). Regardless, after a short time, they will self install but still show on the hold screen.  Clicking on the screen and they will disappear.

In either event, they always appear on the Windows Update history screen under Definition Updates.

And this new Windows ll Pro computer shows them as posting 6 times during the time that the manufacturer was loading software and setting it up on the Windows Update > Update history screen > under Definition updates.

I don’t have any settings ON in the Windows Update > Advanced Options page. Am I missing something.

PS: The above pertains only to the Defender AntiVirus Definition updates, the actual Windows Updates are now operating and posting Update history as they should.

 

Windows 10 Pro x64 v22H2 and Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 (RIP)

Now that is interesting – thank you for the visual.

Could you pls comment regarding the Virus Definitions coming down and installing without a notice or hold or appearing in the Update History area as they use to in Windows 10 with the Group Policy Settings.

 

Windows 10 Pro x64 v22H2 and Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 (RIP)

joep517 wrote:

You click on the pause period to begin pausing updates. Once paused there will be a “Resume Updates” button at the top.

I have no “Resume Updates” button at the top.  Are you saying it should be there NOW even though the Pause area shows 1 week?   Or, after the 1 week is up? (Never used Pause before).

Note my Group Policy settings to “Show updates available but don’t download”.  As stated above, the top WU area shows the April CU and April .NET available to Download & install.  But Pause is showing 1 week. Seems something is out of sync.

Also what about the Virus Definitions updating in the background and not holding in the Windows Updater, or showing in the Update History area like they did in Windows 10?

Windows 10 Pro x64 v22H2 and Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 (RIP)

Yes, a downward “v”.  But I see no way to get out of the already set 1 week pause.  What does NO Pause setting look like (if there is one)?

My question is in Windows 11, is the 1 week an automatic with no way to NOT use pause since I don’t know how this got set, and I don’t see an option to NOT use pause as was in Windows 10.

And confused over the Virus Definition update not going thru the Windows Update window like in Windows 10.

 

Windows 10 Pro x64 v22H2 and Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 (RIP)

Thanks for the response.  I’m trying to learn all the steps to create a Local Account by what many folks call “join a domain”.  Perhaps my question was presumptuous, but with that in mind, it seems logical that there would be some interaction required with something called a “domain” (no matter how small) during the set up process.

Note that I have not had the benefit of seeing any of these setup screens yet.

Maybe there is more than one way to approach this method to get to a Local Account sign up screen?

Found the below on ElevenForum where these folks, after choosing work/school, then for login option use choose join domain, system then continues with a Local Account.

https://www.elevenforum.com/t/microsoft-blocks-all-options-to-bypass-ms-account-on-new-installs.19342/page-10#post-570335

Tex265 wrote:

Doesn’t Windows request information regarding the Domain you are trying to join? Like a name, a number, an email, or something? What do you input at this point? Just ignore and it sends you to Local Account setup?

The above reference (if correct) seems to answer my own questions.

Windows 10 Pro x64 v22H2 and Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64 (RIP)