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skydiver
AskWoody LoungerFor TVs… I use ChromeCast with Google TV. It allows combined search of many sources including most installed streaming apps including YouTube, YouTube TV (including free version), Amazon, Paramount+, Tubi, and MANY others. Youtube TV itself has something like 800 free “live” channels.
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skydiver
AskWoody LoungerCanadian Tech,
Thanks so much for the suggestion. I don’t have any PCs with very old Win7 loads needing updates right now so I can’t try your suggestion. However, please note that my simple procedure has never failed me so far when the update to fix update won’t quickly install.
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skydiver
AskWoody LoungerIf 3172605 won’t finish install after a few minutes, this might be worth a try… The KB3020369 / KB3172605 method from http://www.infoworld.com/article/3136677/microsoft-windows/how-to-speed-up-windows-7-update-scans-forever.html worked for me a couple of times. However, in one case when I tried to install 3172605 it never finished installing. I accidentally SOLVED IT by doing the following… If 3172605 won’t finish install after a few minutes, try booting into Safe Mode via F8 at PC Start. Then try to run that update. It will say it can’t run in safe mode. Reboot into normal Windows then try installing again. I am not sure if just booting into Safe Mode fixed it or if the attempt to install 3172605 while there cleared something out. I have not had an occasion to try it again.
UPDATE: I have used this multiple times since I first posted. The attempted install in Safe Mode IS REQUIRED for it to always work.
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skydiver
AskWoody LoungerFebruary 9, 2017 at 7:24 pm in reply to: Where we stand with Windows versions, builds, rings, updates, branches and editions #93041For me the Anniversary Update (or KB3176934, either one) totally destroyed my wifi: it was awfully slow and constantly wouldn’t connect properly – while I had Firefox, Chromium and IE all infinitely downloading some website, my sisters Windows 7 laptop worked just fine, my stepdads Windows 8.1 laptop worked just fine and my phone also worked just fine. The Wifi had worked for me just fine BEFORE installing the anniversary update too. I tried uninstalling the newest driver for my WLAN card and replacing it with the driver provided by ASUS from 2015, didn’t work. I went to Realtek’s website and this particular WLAN card is not even listed there. I went to google and found this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3z6ai9/wifi_keeps_slowing_to_a_crawl/
Some random guy 8 months ago had exact same Wifi adapter as I do and the same issue, but nobody was able to help him. Dangit.
As a last resort, I clean installed the whole OS, that was a big waste of time, because it still didn’t work.So I though now’s a good change and went back to Windows 8.1. D**n, would you look at that, I can actually connect to the Internet through Wifi and it works! Pretty crazy stuff, I mean it just works, just like that, crazy stuff!
I gave Windows 10 a fair shot, but I wont be installing it on this machine again I think, this update situation is just out-of-control on Windows 10. Let’s just hope Microsoft doesn’t screw us come October and the changes to Windows Update model of 8.1/7.
I’m sure Realtek and/or ASUS are as much at fault here as is Microsoft, if not more so because they haven’t updated their drivers in a long while, but I really don’t care who’s fault this is: all that matters is that Windows 10 is broken for me as of right now and Windows 8.1 on the other hand is stable and works. And I really value stability over anything else in my OS.
Who knows, by now they could have fixed the issue, but that would have still meant WEEKS without properly working Wifi. Totally unacceptable, in my opinion. (and before anyone asks, no, I can’t just use a wire from the router unfortunately)
The Anniversary update (or was it the update to the update?) broke my wife’s “RealTek RTL8168/8111 Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.0)”. Device Manager said it could not start. It had been working fine in Win10 until the update. Considering the age of the motherboard, I did not expect to find an updated driver. Surprise… from
http://www.realtek.com.tw/Downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=13&PFid=5&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3 I found an installable driver dated 2017/1/20. I chose repair and it said it was installing a newer driver. It FIXED the issue. (The site says it’s v10.013 2017/1/20, but after install, Device Manager says 10.113.1223.2016.)It looks like RealTek is trying to update even some older NIC drivers.
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skydiver
AskWoody LoungerIf 3172605 won’t finish install after a few minutes, this might be worth a try…
The KB3020369 / KB3172605 method from http://www.infoworld.com/article/3136677/microsoft-windows/how-to-speed-up-windows-7-update-scans-forever.html worked for me a couple of times. However, in one case when I tried to install 3172605 it never finished installing. I accidentally SOLVED IT by doing the following…
If 3172605 won’t finish install after a few minutes, try booting into Safe Mode via F8 at PC Start. Then try to run that update. It will say it can’t run in safe mode. Reboot into normal Windows then try installing again.
I am not sure if just booting into Safe Mode fixed it or if the attempt to install 3172605 while there cleared something out. I have not had an occasion to try it again.
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