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Hmm, somethings are still working, oddly enough? We’ll see in a moment, when I submit this, and then how long it stays.

So: From exile, I want to thank Frank, Alex and Fred.

And any one else who feels like contributing good music here: don’t overthink it: do it!

By the way, this is really by now also a self-imposed stay away, that I am starting to enjoy, oddly enough. Probably because there are so many things relentlessly landing on my plate these days I have, as it used to be said, at least when I was a boy: “I have not even time to scratch myself.” (Almost).

But just now that I have three minutes:

Claude Debbusy: The Submerged Cathedral – Unidentified pianist (maybe called Rosseau)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJILQWePbt4

Richard Strauss: Four Last Songs (complete), Gundula Janowitz, Karajan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANdPoigJ_qw

Wagner: Tristan und Isolde – Präludium und Liebestod | Waltraud Meier, Daniel Barenboim & WEDO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4bqRlNSQQE

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This is not Personal Messaging. This is a thread in a forum, so is not supposed to be one for exclusive personal communications. A question asked here is one that any one interested, as I am, is free to answer. b not may like it, but others might be interested in what I have to say. b does not know that.

But, wait! This now gets interesting!

Unless, and most appropriate to ponder here, given the original topic we are already considering in this thread, the management of AskWoody decides, in this particular case, to make this thread work as a PM medium for b’s exclusive use, just for this opportunity. Which certainly Management can do, because this is exactly the same situation here, as in a private platform. Given that, as a matter of fact, a private platform, maybe not as fancy as those that first come to mind, but all the same, seriously, is exactly what AskWoody really is and always has been.

So now we can discuss this and stay on topic. Unless Management … etc.

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Fred

You asked the question.

Take a deep breath. Or two, or several more.

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Anything that does not provoke death, injury, armed uprisings … The list may be longer, but still lets the “platformers” get away with plenty, doesn’t it.?

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You were commenting on iylejk’s opinion, and that opinion, as you quoted it, clearly was this one: “May be true, but once they become the town hall, there’s already laws on the books dictating what can or cannot be censored“.

So, whatever you, in your own mind, were referring to, my comment was spot on its logical subject, that was on iylejk’s opinion. So I was commenting, on his opinion that you, apparently, were asking about. But not because you asked about it, but because I was intrigued too.

And since I  thought I knew a possible answer to your question, I gave it to you because I am such a good guy.

And guessing is free speech, sorry.

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Well, whoever wants to do that would have to buy your house from you first, or wouldn’t this be the only legal way to do it? Because, if illegal, the thing you’ll need is a police station you can walk in right away.

So whether it was in the Metaverse or in whoever’s office next to the pizzeria in your neighborhood’s strip mall, you made the deal, some real document, paper or electronic, was signed to make the deal stick in the real world and you, it is reasonable to think, did know that after you sold your house, you had no longer that house to live in. So why do it? Maybe you needed the money, and had another place where you could move into, including under a bridge?

And anyway, why buy the same house again after you sold it?

If you did it anyway, I would imagine you have some really serious personal issues, besides the house one.

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b: “Which laws do that?” Great question.

I wouldn’t know, offhand, but let me guess:

I’d guess that if someone at a public place, in person or online, who has a substantial popular following, started shouting to his followers to rebel and take up arms and fight to depose the government, there will be a law or two against that.

And whoever facilitated this by helping in any form this person to be heard and incite a rebellion, call this whoever a platform owner or not, could be up for an indictment followed by a conviction, charged as an accessory after the fact to a very serious crime. (I suspect it might be seen by a judge as hard to believe that this platform, or not, owner, a well-known gentleman to boot who has proved many times not to be anyone’s fool, who is a successful businessman and presumably also a man of the world, was not aware at all nor had he any way to know what was going to happen when letting this rebellious person use his very public platform,) And so he may be left facing some serious jail time, even if this rebellion enabler’s last name was one starting in Z.

But if there is any other way to get caught that is less glaringly obvious than this one, I can’t think of any.

At least “while there is a judge in Berlin.”

Maybe someone else here can?

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Myst,

For some reason, after reading about that dream, this comes to mind:

“Perched on the arc of silver of the moon,
sings so very sweetly a nightingale”

….

“To die, perhaps, is to continue a dream
From moon to moon and from sun to sun.”

Baldomero Fernández Moreno.
(Translation from its Spanish original of the beginning and ending of this poem, © OscarCP 2022.)

Now, more to the point, so as not to disturb PK unduly:

Remember: the crash will be transmitted live from a small accompanying spacecraft tomorrow, starting at 7:14 PM USA’s East Daylight Time (so one hour later than normally, ahead of the Sun).

Those more scientifically oriented can use this time, corrected by subtracting or adding an hour from it, and then corrected it further by counting and then subtracting or adding their sum (depending on if they are to my East or to my West) the number of the time zones the world is divided officially and unevenly into that lie between their neck of the woods and this one, always mindful of the International Time Line, that runs from pole to pole and sort of sneaks around in the Central Pacific Ocean.
And also keeping in mind to make another half hour correction if you live in one of those places where local time is offset by half an hour from that in their own time zone.

While the less scientifically minded can look a few comments above this one the times at various places on Earth when this once in a life time crash — and never for real and all-natural near you, one may always hope, takes place.

Or else use some online time service showing the time at important cities in practically all countries and work out the difference with your own, as I do.

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Susan1: “Gentlemen:”

gentlemen?

Susan2: “We have beaten this horse to death.”

To me, who have rode horses and made acquaintances a number of times, becoming good friends with some of them, as horses and humans may, this one looks like a real tough horse; just playing dead, I think.

Good luck with the developer.

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Cybertooth: “… AskWoody has gotten too big for their britches and the software can’t keep up!”

Maybe one could shorten that to the last five words and the statement still be true?

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PK: I know, I commented on my own experience doing that too.

Now this:

For a while Charlie’s and Fred’s were changed to their previous handles plus their last names. That worked, but it was not a great idea. Later I mentioned this here, and then that reverted to “Charlie” and “Fred” (in a long comment, further up, I have explained the motivation for the centuries-old practice of not using one’s actual name when commenting in a public forum: harassment and death-threats, etc.)

And I have asked there, in that previous comment again, about whether 5 is the maximum that can be seen in the drop down list, or not. I hope someone can answer it. Because this is an important question.

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PK: “Suggestion:
Change your Display Name in your profile to 1Charlie and 1Fred and see if that works.“,

There are, as can can be seen by entering “Charlie” or “Fred” in “New Message/TO:” that there are already others way ahead of that. For example, I have found there:

1charlieb” for Charlie, “Alfred something”, (several!) for Fred.

What worries me is that at most 5 entries have ever shown up.

True, mine is a small sample, but nevertheless …

So when you need to send a message to another subscriber of AskWoody, the handle of this person might be out of sight if the list only shows the first five handles in a longer list.

And this is all news to me: until earlier this year everything was same as ever: just enter the handle, get the drop down with just it, click on that and Boom!, after entering the subject, you could get on with writing the message and then send it. And have it actually received by the intended party.

The only explanation, beside that this is caused by another infamous WordPress bug, is that there has been a very large influx of new subscribers in the last few months. But it does not explain why the list is too short to show what one needs to find there.

So, I move to declare that: “This is another WP Bug!”

Anyone here who thinks so too, please lift the right hand and vote “Yes.”

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I asked last night someone here to try to send me a message from PM’s “New Message” box, as, the same as I do, it seems to me  that most people who use PM now and then do.

I read the answer this morning, and it told me that when my handle OscarCP was entered in the TO: address field, a drop down list with several “Oscars” opened and OscarCP was one of those.

So he clicked on that entry in the list and then was able to continue to proceed to enter the subject of the call and the to write and send the message

It may seem, based on my experiences of the last few days, that the list shows only five entries, the first five of what could be a longer list. So if one’s handle is No. 6 or higher, it would not be shown there and there would be no way to click on it there to enter the address of the message and be able to proceed to enter the subject and then write the message:

If the above is correct, then if one is No. 6, one is unreachable.

So: is this correct? If it is, then the problem with PM is larger than I had imagine. Perhaps much larger.

And, be it big or small, it seems to me, based on recent experience, this is a new one.

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Same here: I’ve always used “New Messages” to send PMs. I didn’t even know there was this other way until Susan told me to try it.

But I still wonder why there was no problem messaging Fred a few months ago and now there is a problem with his handle: enter “Fred” in the TO: field in New Message and a list of 5 names, all beginning with “Alfred” drops down. What changed in AskWoody that made that so different?

And has anyone seen some comments from one of those Alfred? I don’ recall seeing anything from someone with an “Alfred” handle before.

Somehow this does not quite add up for me and still have the feeling that what changed is that a truly strange bug somewhat appeared, maybe after some update or patching of the WorldPress software, and started to chew up on the file that has the handles of all of us who have actually fully setup our Profiles.

I hope Susan and whoever is helping her manage to figure this out before I myself become a silent ghost hunting AskWoody.

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