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Yes, I am on Windows 10 Home.  I will pause WU on Monday (7/13) for 35 days and then turn off metered connection.

I assume WU will not be confused when I pause it while it is set at Stopped/Manual (Trigger Start).

Many thanks again.

HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
Windows 10 Home Version 22H2
OS build 19045.5608
Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
-Version 2502(Build 18526.20168 C2R)

OK. No need to turn WU back on automatic at startup. WU or wushowhide will start WU when needed. Leave it the way it is, Stopped/Manual (Trigger Start).

Leave internet set to metered connection so nothing is downloaded. On Tuesday run wushowhide.  Hide patches I don’t want, actually all of them on the day they come out.

Clear the patches from the Windows Update queue if any are there.

Is there any need to pause WU if I keep my connection metered or is it best to pause it too?

P.S.  I went googling and found out it is not unusual to have “20-30” services set at Manual (Trigger Start).  I have more than that but I guess I just never noticed before and it is OK.

Thanks again for all your help.  You are very generous with your time and knowledge.

HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
Windows 10 Home Version 22H2
OS build 19045.5608
Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
-Version 2502(Build 18526.20168 C2R)

I already had Fast Startup turned off.

I went through the steps you listed.  After reboot when I went to services, WU was stopped but the start up type is Manual (Trigger Start) again in the list.  I changed it from disabled to manual in the Properties Box.  WU is still stopped and I still have metered connection on.

All the patches are gone. Hooray!

The only thing I did different is after I set WU to Disabled, I clicked STOP in the Properties box the first time.  This time after I set WU to Disabled, I stopped it by using the commands in the upper left corner.

Anyway, WU stayed stopped this time and the patches are all gone.

There are a whole bunch of services on Manual (Trigger Start).  I never saw so many before I don’t think.  Is that because WU was changed and they depend on each other??

Now that the patches are gone should I start WU? If I leave metered connection on will I then be able to run wushowhide and hide the July patches on Tuesday?

Thanks again for your help and patience.

HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
Windows 10 Home Version 22H2
OS build 19045.5608
Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
-Version 2502(Build 18526.20168 C2R)

I went through all the steps, this time using disabled.  After I restarted, I went to Services and Windows Update is running and it says Manual (Trigger Start).

This time the Properties box shows it is running but is still set for manual.

Is it supposed to be like this?

HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
Windows 10 Home Version 22H2
OS build 19045.5608
Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
-Version 2502(Build 18526.20168 C2R)

PKCano,

I was adding this edit to the post above while you were answering me.

I just went to services again.  Windows Update says it is running.  Next to manual it shows (Trigger Start).  I don’t know what that is.  According to the Properties box it is still stopped and it is still manuel start.  But in the list of services it shows Manual(Trigger Start).

I don’t know what this means but thanks to your wonderful picture I am going to follow all your instructions again and will be able to disable Windows Update this time.

Thank you again.

HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
Windows 10 Home Version 22H2
OS build 19045.5608
Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
-Version 2502(Build 18526.20168 C2R)

[PKCano]

PKCano,

Today I opened Windows Update and Security in Windows 10 settings to pause updates.  There were 55 updates for Microsoft Office 10.  I do not have Office 10.  I have Office Picture Manager which I got from SharePoint Designer 2010 according to these instructions.

https://www.groovypost.com/howto/bring-back-microsoft-office-picture-manager/

All the updates said “Status: Pending download.”

So, I opened wushowhide, unchecked box under Advanced that said “apply repairs automatically” and scanned with it.  All the updates were listed, I checked them all and I hid them all, which took a long time.  Then I went to clear the Update queue.

https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/2000013-how-to-clear-the-windows-update-queue-in-win10/

I turned on metered connections. I had already run wushowhide and hid all the updates.

I opened services in Computer Management>Services and Applications>Services.  The word “disable” does not appear in any drop-down menu or anywhere else.  The best I could do is choose Properties where I could stop the service.  I had to change the start up to manual at the same time or when I restarted the computer, Windows Update would turn on again if I left it at automatic.

I restarted the computer.

I had already changed the startup type to manual.

I ran wushowhide and verified that all the updates were still hidden.  I ran it again and verified they are not available to be hidden.  Nothing was available to be hidden.

I restarted the computer again.  Metered connection is still on.

I did my best.

Is there someplace else where services are listed and it is possible to disable windows update?  This is what got me confused last month.  Then I forgot about it completely.

All the updates are still in Update and Security>Windows Update “Pending download”.  Are they going to disappear when Windows eventually updates?

Thank you for your help.

I just went to services again.  Windows Update says it is running.  Next to manual it shows (Trigger Start).  I don’t know what that is.  According to the Properties box it is still stopped and it is still manuel start.  But in the list of services it shows Manual(Trigger Start).

 

 

HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
Windows 10 Home Version 22H2
OS build 19045.5608
Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
-Version 2502(Build 18526.20168 C2R)

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• This reply was modified 4 years, 10 months ago by mpw. Reason: more info

Thank you.  That did not stay in my old head for a month.  Also I think I remember being confused by those instructions.  I will try to get it right next time.

No harm really.  At least I don’t think so.  I had followed instructions from Microsoft and got Microsoft Office Picture Manager from Office 2010, the last time it was included in office tools.  Since I just have the one tool, I didn’t think I should install Office 2010 updates.  I didn’t know what would happen.  Apparently nothing.  Picture manager works and I have not seen any other problems.  I guess it is OK to install updates even when I just have one tool from Office 2010.

HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
Windows 10 Home Version 22H2
OS build 19045.5608
Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
-Version 2502(Build 18526.20168 C2R)

Well I thought metered connections and wushowhide.diagcab was working perfectly this month right up until it wasn’t.

I had my internet set to metered connection.  I clicked to resume updates and had wushowhide at the ready and started the scan.

Windows update listed updates and wushowhide listed them too.  Nothing downloaded. I checked the updates I did not want and all were listed in hide and it said they would not be installed.

I clicked “Download” button and the cumulative update hung and quit on “getting things ready”.

Since the updates I did not want were listed in wushowhide and the message at the bottom of the update list said I may have to connect to an unmetered WIFI connection, I turn off metered connection.

Boom everything downloaded including those I did not want that were listed under hide in wushowhide.  So, I thought well that’s OK, they won’t install.  Wrong again.  Everything installed.

I opened wushowhide, l looked under hide, all the ones I hid were gone from the list.

After a restart, I went to Update History.  It listed everything as failed to install at first.  Then above that in the list it showed everything successfully installed.

So, it looks like metered connection blocked everything even when I clicked “Download” button.  And when I turned off metered connection everything installed, including the updates I had hidden in wushowhide.

I still don’t get how to do this.  What did I do wrong?

HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
Windows 10 Home Version 22H2
OS build 19045.5608
Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
-Version 2502(Build 18526.20168 C2R)

Yes I had metered connections on before I clicked resume updates.  Metered connection was on for both Wifi and Ethernet.  One update started loading right away.  It was loading as wushowhide was scanning.  But it was not installing.

I blocked Silverlight.  I don’t know what would have happened if I had tried to block the one that started loading and I don’t remember which one it was.

HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
Windows 10 Home Version 22H2
OS build 19045.5608
Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
-Version 2502(Build 18526.20168 C2R)

wavy wrote:

Alex how do you get to Device Installation Settings w/o a search ? I could not find it in settings

I was brought back to this post by a recent reply and just now found your question.  If you have not yet found the answer here it is.

Control Panel>System>Advanced system settings>Hardware tab>Device installation Settings

HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
Windows 10 Home Version 22H2
OS build 19045.5608
Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
-Version 2502(Build 18526.20168 C2R)

At Woody’s go ahead I got wushowhide at the ready and clicked “resume updates”.  As quickly as they started to appear, I started wushowhide.  Bingo, they all showed up.  I hid one for Silverlight but let the rest go since it was time to install.

I think had I wanted to hide all of them I had time to check all of them, but one started loading almost immediately so I’m not sure.

Berserker79 here says he has time to run wushowhide the day they come out.  Am I to understand I don’t need to pause updates?  Windows leaves them listed for a while before loading and installing?  Or should I pause and then resume updates with wushowhide at the ready?  Again, it happens pretty fast and I might not be able to check all the boxes fast enough.  Not sure.

Also, my apologies to all who warned me about opening Advanced and unchecking “apply repairs automatically”.  I of course forgot in the urgency of the moment.  Happily nothing bad happened.

BTW my computer is fine.  Nothing bad happened.  Updates are installed.  Desktop, files and audio all OK.

This is a great place to go for help.  Thanks to all.

HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
Windows 10 Home Version 22H2
OS build 19045.5608
Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
-Version 2502(Build 18526.20168 C2R)

That’s what I was afraid of.

So next month, how do I use wushowhide on v1909 before I pause updates and before Win10 downloads and installs them.

I have always paused in anticipation of update arrival when Woody says to pause.  But then I can’t use wushowhide.  There is something I am missing in all this.

HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
Windows 10 Home Version 22H2
OS build 19045.5608
Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
-Version 2502(Build 18526.20168 C2R)

Thanks for all the replies.  I have read the article.  Too much information.  My brain is mush.  Still working on understanding all the steps.

I use ethernet connection but I have wifi and can turn it on which apparently is required.  And I can set it to metered; maybe this is what prevents Windows 10 from immediately downloading and installing updates so I have time to use wushowhide.  Not sure.

I have home edition so no group policy.  Also I blocked updates by pressing  Pause 4 times, I think, which got me to June 11.  I have v1909. These instructions are for earlier versions of Windows 10.

I will get through this but I need to read it and try to figure how to do all this on v1909.  And I am still not sure that as soon as I click “resume updates” on v1909 it all won’t just instantly download and install.

HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
Windows 10 Home Version 22H2
OS build 19045.5608
Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
-Version 2502(Build 18526.20168 C2R)

All the error messages were back when I turned computer on this morning.  I have turned fast start-up off and will leave it off.  Just another Windows 10 wonderful, recommended thing that does not work.

I hate Windows 10.  I want my simple, reliable Windows 7 back.  Spent a lot of $ and don’t use the bells and whistles that Windows 10 offers.

DISM and sfc scans both clean.

HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
Windows 10 Home Version 22H2
OS build 19045.5608
Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
-Version 2502(Build 18526.20168 C2R)

[mpw]

Paul T wrote:

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Maybe a few nano seconds.  I don’t have a lot of stuff to load.  I could easily leave it off, but I thought W10 recommended it be on.  I have c drive for windows which is an ssd drive and an HDD drive for files.

Also there were errors repaired on the DISM scan.  I had misunderstood what it said.

Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool

Version: 10.0.18362.1

Image Version: 10.0.18363.778

[==========================100.0%==========================] The restore operation completed successfully.

The operation completed successfully.

HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
Windows 10 Home Version 22H2
OS build 19045.5608
Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
-Version 2502(Build 18526.20168 C2R)

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