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Noel, you’d be surprised what upgrading from an older version to newer version can do.  We did two different types of upgrades.  One group from v1511 LTSB to v1709 and another group from v1607 to v1709.  I was surprised at how well it went.  The big thing was that on some of the PCs they had stopped taking patches and after the upgrade they started working like a new machine.
Our next upgrade will most likely be all the boxes upgraded to v1809, but that won’t be for several more months.  We have to make sure everything is stable on our reference machines first.

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Woody, I’m not seeing any such task on my desktop PC.  I’m currently running W7 Enterprise SP1 and I just checked the Task Scheduler and no such task exists.  I’m pretty sure our Network is blocking such nonsense from MS.

I’ll check my old laptop when I get home as it is still running W7 Home.  I don’t get any updates from MS on either PC that I don’t want.  I’ve locked everything down on both and don’t hear any carping from MS about updates/upgrades and such.

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doriel wrote:

I think, that in big companies, you just created more work for yourself, if you installed W7. You have got to think ahead. I have to say, everything that worked for me in W7 works in W10 too.

doriel, it’s not just the retail chain stores that have this issue.  The company I work for has invested a great deal of money in equipment that makes the garden variety PC look like change you find on the ground. We’re talking Precision Network Analyzers and such…and they are running on…you guessed it…W7.

Now this is something that goes up the food chain to a large company (Keysight) who manufactures these devices with an embedded OS (W7).  They didn’t start trickling out the W10 motherboard equipped devices until late 2017.  They didn’t even offer a motherboard replacement to upgrade to W10 until 2018, and the cost for that upgrade is staggering.  Not all versions of those older motherboards and/or equipment are compatible with the upgrade motherboards.  If that is the case, then you’re looking at something in the price range of $250K for a new device.

I’m sure Keysight knew this was coming down the pike, and I can’t say when they started working on the new embedded OS motherboards but it sure took them a while to get the design out to market…3 years before the OS is scheduled for retirement.  Not everyone or every company has the luxury of upgrading to W10 like you or I do…and the cost can be mind boggling for those companies.

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Aaron, thank you for posting that link to your “LABS” cartoon.  I would have to say that along with Dilbert, your strip has taken a place in my go-to for a funny read.  It’s good to see another cartoon that doesn’t rely on crude language to get some funny point across.  I’m all caught up to this last week and am awaiting your new submission for Wednesday!
The two that hit closest to home were the “Long Day” and “Daylight Saving” strips.  I’ve had a few of those “Long Day”s myself!

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Cartoonist Aaron

Did they pull this KB already?  It’s not in the MS Update Catalog.

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Rock, I agree with you 100%.  I would gladly put a PC on the “gimme all you got” update schedule if that is what they did.  Heck, I’d even give MS reviews on what isn’t working (and what is) if they operated that way.

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Mele20 wrote:

Mark wrote:

Rick Corbett wrote:

“… then no mention whatsoever of Defender updates (and how/why – if you disable Windows Update [shame on you!] – you also lose updates to Windows Defender protection?)…

Actually you don’t lose any update capability. You still have access the the Microsoft Update Catalog. You can download any Defender updates through the Catalog.

Windows Defender for 8.0 Pro and 10 Pro (1709) separates Defender updates from Windows Updates.

Mele20, what you said is true, but you can lock it down, it just takes a bit more work.  That said, I work with PCs everyday that are not connected to the internet, so I do know that you can download the Defender definition updates through the MS Catalog.

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Rick Corbett wrote:

“… then no mention whatsoever of Defender updates (and how/why – if you disable Windows Update [shame on you!] – you also lose updates to Windows Defender protection?)…

Actually you don’t lose any update capability.  You still have access the the Microsoft Update Catalog.  You can download any Defender updates through the Catalog.

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You’re being facetious, right?

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Woody, I thought the same thing, that it might be add-ons.  I went back and checked and nothing stood out.  Then I was re-reading the thread and saw the “clear the cache”.  That did it.  Not sure why, since I had not logged on to the Forum with Chrome until after the “Plus” tag was applied.  Oh well.

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So I’m having the same issue of the “Plus” badge not showing up in Chrome.  I switched to IE and it shows up there.  Does Chrome block some ad-ons or what?

 

Edit: Nevermind…I just went back and cleared the cache and then they started appearing.
Rule #1: don’t overlook the obvious.

Rule #2: see rule #1.

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barcud, just for an informational point we’ve had some similar “surprises” from Microsoft in regards to BitLocker.

For our work, we BitLocker all the drives. It seems that around June 2018, Microsoft decided to start shutting off BitLocker when we applied our monthly patches. We discovered this when we noticed that it stopped asking for the BitLocker password and also seeing the little lock icon was grey, open and had that little warning sign on it.

This continued on until the December patches, when as mysteriously as it got turned off, BitLocker was re-enabled after patching. Why Microsoft saw fit to “suspend” BitLocker in the first place, I don’t know. All I know is that as of the December patch cycle it appears that they are now re-enabling it after patching.

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John

Hey Woody, this is probably going to sound like an odd question, but since you said the subscription is set up based on a donation model and you aren’t charging $59 or $99 for a one year subscription; what would be a suggested donation? Say everyone subscribed to the Woody’s Plus, what would a subscription go for?

Like I said, this was an odd question, but not being a person who normally subscribes to online content it would be nice to know what a recommended donation would run, just to keep the lights on here.

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Bluetrix,
I would had to take exception to you calling a Chevy Nomad a “Woody”. To my recollection they never issued a Nomad in the Woody dress. I’ve seen some resto-mods that have added the wood paneling, but I’ve never seen a factory issued Nomad Woody. The first Woody was a 1928 Ford Model A and the Fords are the ones I always think about when hearing the term “Woody”.

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Woody, it definitely was earlier…I remember running Windows 286 and Windows 386 (the precursors to Windows 3.1).  Those versions are what put the infamous BSOD on the map.

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