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Appreciative of the investigative journalism to help users on Windows thorough out the years.

A good article for turning it off in Windows 11.

This PC is Windows 10, with a Local Account. Although I did not disable automatic Microsoft Store updates, I like that I have to manually Get Updates.

Wondering out loud if the article is dependent on a Microsoft Account login.

I have been checking out the Microsoft Store update possibility. Here is what I am seeing.

Microsoft Store updates are not disabled by WUMgr

Used Admin account to go into Microsoft Store -> Downloads -> Get Updates (it started to get downloads and install App Store updates; note: ran a PowerShell command, years ago, to uninstall vendor-installed Apps)

Used problem standard user account to go into Microsoft Store -> Downloads -> Get Updates (other Microsoft Store Apps downloaded and installed; apps updates from the Admin account were already updated; other non-Admin Apps downloaded and installed/updated)

Current status: Microsoft 365 Copilot app has not re-installed so I am happy.

Thanks everybody for your input, ideas and solution.

I don’t remember the timeline.

Looking at what I have, the admin account is used to install the monthly cumulative updates as well as run the Edge browser updates. The admin account has a problem opening the Microsoft 365 app.

This may be different for other people’s PC’s, depending on what Microsoft is doing. Potentially an Office update or an Edge update.

A second PC (Windows 10 Pro, slightly different Office configuration) has a similar situation, leading me to believe Defender is the culprit. On PC2 my standard user updates Defender and has the Microsoft 365 Copilot app installed. It is does not have the run problem though. Checking the admin account, Microsoft 365Copilot app is not installed. A second standard account also does not have the Microsoft 365 Copilot app installed either. Only the standard account (doing Defender updates) has the Microsoft 365 Copilot app. I didn’t even know Microsoft 365 app was installed until I started looking for it before it does not pop up, on startup.

That is it, it is a Microsoft Store App. I can see it and uninstall it. Great.

What was the cause? I suspect Windows Security / Defender download and installed it. The reasoning: I use the standard user account to manually download and update Defender anti-malware definitions, and download Monthly Cumulative Updates. The standard user updates Defender. The standard user downloads the cumulative updates. The admin account is used to run the cumulative updates. The Microsoft 365 Copilot app runs on the account which updates Defender. A second standard user does not run the Microsoft 365 Copilot app because I do not use it to update Defender. The admin account does not run the Microsoft 365 Copilot app and is only used to update / install software, typically offline.

One comment: you are very good, @lmacri, by including the PowerShell command to list the Microsoft Store app (Get-AppxPackage) then remove it (Remove-AppxPackage). I have only used those PowerShell commands once myself.

Resolved, thanks

SHIFT+F10 did not work for me. I have to connect to the Internet. Sorry I did see and try the other options recommended here until now.

The Microsoft Account Bypass didn’t work, as noted in 2678102 & 2678178. (I tried a number of times, there has been a change. After the “Oops, something went wrong” it does not let you set up a local account. Instead it ask to setup a Microsoft Account.)

What I did instead, was near the beginning of the Microsoft Account Bypass, don’t “Set up for personal use” but “Set up for work or school”. Then follow the follow the instructions for doing a Local Account setup. Not fully sure if this is it or the fact I tried so many times but I have Windows 11 Local Accounts only.

This was on a Dell, Windows 11 Pro.

Maybe this will helps someone.

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The Patch Tuesday .Net Updates have been removed from the manual download availability, which you can see in the links attached:

.Net 6.0.31 replacing .Net 6.0.30
https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=.net%206.0
.Net 7.0.20 replacing .Net 7.0.19
https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=.net%207.0
.Net 8.0.6 replacing .Net 8.0.5
https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=.net%208.0

I can understand wanting to place a browser in “strict” mode for security reasons. What I found in the past is, a lot of sites didn’t work and hence the frustration level went too high to have it on. It would be good to hear what the current experience is like, from the people who have “strict” on.

 

Thinking through possible reasons for the problem: Western Digital (WD) External Drive.

It is not likely the external drive but there are items about My Cloud and My Book:
https://www.askwoody.com/?s=western+digital+&id=2344790&post_type=post

Here is one where Windows Defender caused a problem.
https://www.askwoody.com/2020/patch-lady-defender-not-having-a-good-week/

I am probably grasping at straws here, just hypothesis for now.

That is probably it,

They stopped offering a free version of Macrium Reflect going forward.

I think more than one person said it on these forums.

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I am not thinking of doing the partition restore because I don’t want to figure out any boot partition restore.

If I do the Macrium Reflect restore, there might be more people here to help. AOMEI Backupper was kind of experiment. I also have to consider what I am going to lose, before doing the restore.

I think I saw somewhere Macrium Reflect is not going to be updated going forward, hence my reason to try out AOMEI Backupper.

I would agree if you are not sure, about when to run update definitions.

Another view point, I can see on a corporate PC, they do their updates (Microsoft and anti-malware) at end-of-day before they shut shutdown. So their problems will not show up until the start of the next day.

I prefer updates on power on, when the PC is “fresh”. I also like to restart after the updates to see the update did not cause any problems, right a way.

If you like to control definition updates, then manual updates may be the preference.

Here is why I think there is a problem. This a partition backup, not a disk backup. It was not intentional to make the partition backup but it may explain why the partition restore is available but not the disk restore.

I guess we are all learning as we try this out. I am going to think this through, before I decide on my next step.

Under Tools, View Logs you can see the a backups. It is a partition full backup. I am guessing this is not a disk backup so can’t do a full restore.

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