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I had downloaded the Win10_1703_English_x64.iso and installed it three weeks ago on my test system (same specs as my primary system) on which I had just put 1607. I encountered no problems installing and running it on the old system which was modern seven years ago. Playing around with Paint3D, I found that it doesn’t save in any useful format and so I had to use 3D builder to do that. Ho-hum, nothing new under the sun from my point of view. After simply uninstalling and turning off what 1703 allowed me to, for all intents and purposes 1703 looked no different to me than 1607. If I was into 3D printing, I certainly wouldn’t be using Paint3D and 3DBuilder as my go to software, so I have to wonder what all the fuss is about? I mean, can’t Microsoft just update their subsystems separately the way they always used to? If the .Net Framework could go from 4.5 to 4.6 back on Windows 7, why can’t that and UWP things continue to be done separately in Windows 10? Why would any of that necessitate kernel level API changes? What makes it necessary to change all of this software at the same time? Are Microsoft’s managers and engineers so desperate for relevance in the waning days of the Windows that they resort to this to get attention to avoid getting canned too? Anyway, for right now anyway, I’m treating the Creators Update like a dog treats a fireplug…
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Beware: I had my WU service disabled in Services and before that, it was set to never check for updates and yet, yesterday I saw that WU had re-enabled itself. It changed it’s setting from disabled to Automatic (Delayed) and had started itself and I never use that “Delayed” setting ever for anything. It doesn’t appear to have installed anything and I’m not sure what could have triggered it, but it happened. Make sure you keep checking on it every now and then.
This is remarkably similar to what Noel Carboni encountered:
It CAN happen. I’ve personally seen it happen.
This year, for example, at the time I installed TurboTax on my Windows 8.1 workstation I shortly thereafter found unexpected entries in my firewall log that showed Windows Update had been started – even though I had set it to Disabled – and was trying to contact Microsoft (it failed, because I also reconfigure my firewall to disallow updates).
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Nah, it’s just the Microsoft elephant-bear mutation tossing and turning in bed with your system. You can hear it rattling your disk filling it with useless nonsense, eating your time and space while you try valiantly to get your work done in spite of it. Careful that you aren’t crushed as it slowly pushes you into the cloud and completely takes over your system. Try not to loose too much sleep over it…you will be assimilated!
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Cocoa Banana…
And if you just want to download the Windows 10 ISO file, set your browser to a non-windows agent and start here. For example, in Firefox you can create a new string in a new tab opened to about:config named general.useragent.override and set it to migaVoyager/3.2 (AmigaOS/MC680x0).
The that brings you to the Download Windows 10 Disc Image (ISO File) web page which has this interesting message:
“Mac customers using Boot Camp: Instead of performing a new install of Creators Update, download and install Windows 10 Anniversary Update ISO. Then install the Creators Update via the normal Windows update process. For more details click here.”
The Select edition gives these options for the Creators or Anniversary Update:
<i>Select edition v</i> [b]Windows 10 Creators Update[/b] Windows 10 Windows 10 N Windows 10 Single Language [b]Windows 10 Anniversary Update[/b] Windows 10 Windows 10 N Windows 10 Single Language
For the English plain Windows 10 Creators Update the 64-bit and 32-bit ISO files have these properties:
Filename: Win10_1703_English_x64.iso Last-Modified: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 04:04:23 GMT Content-Length: 4334315520 MD5: effccfda8a8dcf0b91bb3878702ae2d8 SHA-1: ce8005a659e8df7fe9b080352cb1c313c3e9adce Filename: Win10_1703_English_x32.iso Last-Modified: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 00:27:42 GMT Content-Length: 3232196608 MD5: e6c8bd404dd95a286b3b3ef3a90e2cb34 SHA-1: 1af7b5b5914b718c3f2f6e58907f51c36f8a03c1
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Have you ever examined the web page programming used to access your eMail via your web browser in detail?
Only to the point of killing off the advertising that’s shown in the right panel so that I could block the noise. Naturally it has to be blinking, scrolling or running a video. It certainly drew my attention alright, but not in the way they’d wanted. My attention was focused like a knife to stopping from it from ever running again. I later found that the notification and help button display in the right panel too which hides it, however I have no reason to restore access to these advertising hosts that I had blocked as a result:
127.0.0.1 ad.doubleclick.net 127.0.0.1 ol.at.atwola.com 127.0.0.1 secure.adnxs.com 127.0.0.1 secure-lax.adnxs.com 127.0.0.1 choices.truste.com 127.0.0.1 choices-or.truste.com 127.0.0.1 secure-ds.serving-sys.com 127.0.0.1 tps10244.doubleverify.com 127.0.0.1 sb.scorecardresearch.com 127.0.0.1 ad.turn.com 127.0.0.1 r.turn.com 127.0.0.1 images.taboola.com 127.0.0.1 trc.taboola.com
Otherwise I pay no attention to what Microsoft does on its Outlook Mail web page. Since they are handling the mail already I simply assume it’s in the public domain and don’t expect it to be secure.
I use the safe senders list to filter out junk mail from my Inbox. So junk mail always goes into the Junk Mail folder where it’s easy to spot and where it never gets opened at all. BTW, Outlook Mail does not run scripts or display images from a message which is opened in the Junk Mail folder. Glancing at the titles tells me right away that it’s junk mail and so I just clear the entire Junk Mail folder. If I’m curious about a message, I use the message source option to examine it.
Personally, I find all this advertising bizarre. On TV, I just use it as a signal to get up and walk away, look out the window, etc. If I want to, I’ll have fun looking at the background or see how it’s constructed. To me it’s just sign that someone is spending a whole lot of money trying to sell a product–the cost of which is rarely mentioned–but definitely has that advertising cost built into it. It most certainly does not cause me to want to have it–a behavior which the advertisers are apparently attempting to foster.HP Compaq 6000 Pro SFF PC / Windows 10 Pro / 22H2
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Oh so that’s what the Mail App looks like
However I do use Outlook Mail via Edge. This morning I was rudely greeted in that web page by a split of my Inbox into Focused and Other
It took awhile for me to figure out how to turn that off
Click on “Filter v” uncheck “Show focused Inbox” does the trick
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Refer to Microsoft’s Download Windows 10 webpage. Expand the Using the tool to create installation media (USB flash drive, DVD, or ISO file) to install Windows 10 on a different PC section for help on why you would want to do things involving a USB drive. If have used the tool to create installation media on a USB flash drive successfully then just click on the drive and you should see a setup icon. Click on the icon to begin the upgrade process. You could also boot from the drive to begin the upgrade process. The same choices are possible using DVD or ISO media which the tool can write for you as well.
The tool downloads an ESD file for its own use in writing the USB flash drive, DVD, or ISO media. You cannot use that ESD file directly. If you want to obtain an ISO file instead, see my other reply below.
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To upgrade under Windows 10 Pro from 1511 to 1607, I just clicked on the Win10_1607_English_x64.iso in file explorer and then clicked on setup.exe. Note that I have file explorer set to show file extensions and AutoPlay DVDs is not setup in Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\AutoPlay. So the Win10_1607_English_x64 file may just AutoPlay and run setup by default when you click on it in file explorer depending how you have things setup.
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The original poster in that thread later posted that the problem was with a program supplied with the motherboard.
Correct, I wasn’t specific enough. It’s another reply that leads on to Windows 7 64-bit Corrupting (Altering) Large Files Copied to External NTFS Drives that I should have linked to instead. There even Noel Carboni chimes in at the end. Not everyone is affected. I was. What bothered me most is that the flawed behavior happens using system provided tools and there’s wasn’t any patch to fix it. To me this seems to be symptomatic of a flaw somewhere in the cache subsystem. I haven’t followed up on this since I’ve moved on to Windows 10.
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Last year when Windows 10 first came out and I was running Windows 7 SP1, I ran into problems copying the 4 GB Windows 10 iso file to a My Book 3 TB backup drive. I was not using the My Book backup software that came with it. When I copied the huge iso file to the external disk over USB 2.0 and I checked the MD5 sum, it was different!
I had used the explorer to drag and drop a copy. Unfortunately both copy and xcopy also mangled the file. No errors were ever presented and there was nothing in the event log either. I used uTorrent to check what exactly was wrong with the file only to find substantial parts damaged. Using my own tools to dissect the bad file I eventually determined that large chunks were filed with the same large chunks of rubbish, what just looked like uninitialized data. In some places large chunks of the file had been shifted. I had two My Book 3 TB backup drives and two similar system, both running Windows 7 SP1, one 32 bit the other 64 bit. Mixing things up produced the same faulty behavior. Also turning on or off write-thru caching had no effect.
Eventually I ended up using uTorrent to copy the file to the external disk and verify it. My testing showed that files over 1 GB were at risk from this faulty behavior. I also determined online that other users had also experienced this faulty behavior and that Microsoft had never fixed it. Then later when I retested for the faulty behavior again while running under Windows 10 / 1511 (64 bit), I could not reproduce it. So for me at least, continuing to use Windows 7 SP1 is undesirable as I believe the fault lies with its coding in this case.HP Compaq 6000 Pro SFF PC / Windows 10 Pro / 22H2
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I wonder if we should create a thread something like, “Cool and useful things my tweaked and augmented Win 8.1 does” to illustrate its goodness… -Noel
More like: “What are your expectations of an operating system?” How about transparency, ease of control, replication of setup, etc.
Mine have fallen over the years mostly to point where it is now down to get out of my way, don’t get in my face. To that end, my system runs with Notifications, Conana, OneDrive, and all the extra modern apps stripped out. All that is left now that I use of what came with Windows 10 Pro is Edge, Paint, Notepad, Windows Media Player and the mirad of system management and settings tools. I deleted all of the default tiles in the start menu and now use an extra toolbar instead for quick access. Too bad Microsoft got rid of the easy way to choose which Windows Components are actually installed like in the older system versions. As far as I’m concerned, the 20+ GB of Windows 10 code (bloatware) now does less than the 400 MB of Windows NT 4.0 code did two decades ago.
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