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    You couldn’t make this stuff up. The beta test version of Win10, known as 20H1, will ultimately emerge as Win10 version 2004, build 19033. It’s appare
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    • #2011931

      Well, at least they are being consistent lol.

    • #2011925

      Well, with all of the Light Mode themes, these last two releases have come full circle to where they now resemble Windows 95/98 and NT.

    • #2011957

      I think that H1 (Half 1)and H2(Half 2) make more sense and would give Microsoft more apparent flexibility.  Not that they don’t already have it.

    • #2011970

      April Fools’ Day joke, perhaps? 🙂

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    • #2011975

      I don’t understand why they don’t just drop the whole YYMM format for the Version and stick with the Build number as the Version.Build.  They’ve stuck with the same Build prefix since v1803 (17134), v1809 (17763), etc.  It would be so much easier to say it’s Version 17134, Build 864 (17134.864).

      Windows 10 Pro x64 v1909, Windows 7 Home Premium x64, Windows Vista Home Premium x64
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      • #2012022

        They cannot predict which build will be the final (RTM) for each version

        besides, 17134 is the build number, 864 is the delta revision

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        • #2012075

          Which brings me back to my original recommendation:

          • Win 10 = RTM version (1507)
          • Win 10.1 = version 1511
          • Win 10.2 = version 1607
          • Win 10.3 = version 1703
          • Win 10.4 = version 1709
          • Win 10.5 = version 1803
          • Win 10.6 = version 1809
          • Win 10.7 = version 1903
          • Win 10.7 SP 1 = version 1909
          • Win 10.8 = version 2004

          I think I first proposed that numbering system in early 2015.

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          • #2012205

            I’m happily computing on Windows 10.1 using Office 2003.

            Happy Thanksgiving Woody & VIP’s!!!

        • #2012191

          They cannot predict which build will be the final (RTM) for each version

          Why do they need to predict it? 1909 was 19H2 until last month, and by then it was 18363.

          • #2012215

            1909 is out of question, out of the ordinary

            let’s take build 19033, we know it’s not the final 20H2 build, yet because it’s escrow and not evaluation, it got the official tag “version 2004”
            if they would use the build number as version, it will create inconsistency

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    • #2012025

      Windows 10 has been out for over four years and they’re still coming out with “Beta” versions? I’m sorry, but this is not my idea of a serious OS.  It seems more like a play toy for those who wish to to play around with.

      Being 20 something in the 70's was so much better than being 70 something in the insane 20's
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      • #2012054

        Windows 10 has been out for over four years and they’re still coming out with “Beta” versions?

        Would you rather they release them directly to the general public instead?

      • #2012074

        With the release of Windows 10 it would appear that MS has lost sight of what an operating system is supposed to do which is manage your hardware and run software (programs).

        While the OS is doing that job, it should stay quietly in the background and not be bothering you with never ending updates, ads. etc., etc.

        And, don’t get me started about Candy Crush and the rest of the ever increasing ‘bloat’ that’s been added to Windows 10 since it’s release over 4 years ago. Regular readers should know, like I do, how to avoid most of the bloat. For now, at least.

        As quite a few people have said during the last 4 years, Windows 10 is more of an advertising platform than an operating system. I’m sure it will only get worse from here on – especially after Windows 7 reaches end of support next January.

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        • #2012339

          ccs

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    • #2012028

      If 20H1 is really done, maybe they should spend the next four months stabilizing it. That way we don’t have a beta by time it comes out.

    • #2012036

      Well, at least they’re finally getting Windows 10 into the 21st Century (19’s to 20’s).

      Who knows – by the time they eventually move it from 2004 to the 2020’s it might be out of Beta status. Not bad after nearly 5 years.

    • #2012141

      Windows 10 has been out for over four years and they’re still coming out with “Beta” versions? I’m sorry, but this is not my idea of a serious OS.  It seems more like a play toy for those who wish to to play around with.

      Windows 10 is doing exactly the same thing that Mac OS X and Linux distributions have been doing for almost 20 years: Incremental improvements on a regular basis.  Windows was always the sole outlier with every release being significantly different visually and functionally.

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      • #2012207

        And I preferred it that way. Thanks for your consideration.

      • #2012348

        Windows was always the sole outlier with every release being significantly different visually and functionally.

        Not really, I remember a bunch of Windows releases looking mostly the same as their predecessor… and also visually and functionally converged user interface on very different kernels in the 3.x / NT 3.x and 9x/NT4 eras.

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      • #2012416

        There are no advertisements on my Linux Mint, and there are no games – unless I decide to pick what I want and install it with Software Installer.  No frou frou, just an operating system with what you need.

        Being 20 something in the 70's was so much better than being 70 something in the insane 20's
        • #2012426

          There are no advertisements or games on my Windows 10 either.

    • #2012225

      No piece of software, including Windows itself, is ever completely bug free.  As bugs are found, they are corrected, requiring an update.  Similarly, external threats may develop after the OS is in use, possibly also requiring a security update.

      Unfortunately, sometimes the updates introduce new bugs or incompatibilities.

      Windows 10 Pro 64 bit 20H2

    • #2012264

      Oh Adobe could give them lessons. “Robohelp 2019” released “totally ready for production despite having 1/4 or the features of RH2017”. So they bundled RH 2017 (with maybe a few tweaks and patches, as far as we can tell) with it, relabelled as “Robohelp 2019 Classic”. That’s not going to cause any confusion when people ask for help, is it?

    • #2012442

      There’s clearly a lot of heavy weight expertise on this site; many of you may work for Microsoft now, or have in the past, and certainly have spent careers supporting systems of various sorts.

      Do any of you know where we are going,

      when we will get there,

      and how will we know we have arrived?

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    • #2012595

      Windows was always the sole outlier with every release being significantly different visually and functionally.

      Not really, I remember a bunch of Windows releases looking mostly the same as their predecessor… and also visually and functionally converged user interface on very different kernels in the 3.x / NT 3.x and 9x/NT4 eras.

      Then you misremember.  NT 3.1/3.5 looked like Windows 3.1.  NT 4 looked like Windows 95, with the Start menu, Task Bar, and the whole “desktop” metaphor.  NT 4 itself changed quite significantly with the post-SP3 Shell Update, which added stuff like the tree navigation to Explorer.  A lot changed with Windows 2000, like the addition of Management Console, the new Windows Explorer with the left-side info panel & browser-like interface, and the big move away from the spatial file interface that originated with 95 & NT 4.  And then everything changed again with Windows XP with the two-column start menu, green/blue colour theme, categories in Control Panel, rounded buttons, balloon pop-ups, and much greater use of gradients.

      And so on and so forth.

      • #2012648

        Then you misremember.  NT 3.1/3.5 looked like Windows 3.1.  NT 4 looked like Windows 95

        Yes, exactly as I meant. Windows 3.1 / 3.11 and NT 3.x were about 5 numbered releases (and more if you count server and workstation separately and also on other hardware architectures, like NT on PowerPC and Alpha) with a consistend look and feel between very different internals.

        Similarly Windows 9x and NT 4 were another set of releases coordinated to look mostly alike with different internals, even with the gradual differences between original 95 and 98SE and also NT with the various service packs…

        Really not counting ME/2k and XP into this at all. Though, even 7 configured for traditional mode still wasn’t too different for end users coming from NT4.

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      Does this mean that by the time it’s out, ‘2004’ will be 16 years out of date, or is it just yet more evidence of Microsoft’s tin ear?

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