• WUMGR

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    I have been using Wushowhide for quite a long time, but after reading posts by PKCano, Matador, Tom-R, Susan Bradley and others, I have decided to try WuMgr for updating. I am a novice with the computer, but thanks to Askwoody.com, I am becoming more knowledgeable with each passing month. One thing I have learned about computers is that checking/ unchecking just 1 box erroneously can create considerable problems. Therefore, before I attempt to use WuMgr, I have created a laundry list of questions for installing and running WuMgr.

    Please examine the list and provide errors that should be corrected or supplemental steps that need to be added to the list. I basically started with the list of instructions provided by Tom-R. A shout-out to the above-mentioned authors for the assistance they provide, not only to me, but to all the members of Askwoody especially:  Tom-R [How to Use Wumgr], Susan Clark [WuMgr for Windows 10 Explanation], and PKCano [too many to mention]. Some of my questions may seem superfluous, but I would rather be safe than sorry, so I apologize ahead if the questions seem mundane. I have basically no idea what most of the options are for, but welcome any assistance.

     

    1. Installing WuMgr to your computer: [Using Susan Clark’s Guide from October 31, 2021]
      1. Download WuMgr from github.com
      2. Select and Save file WuMgr_v1.1b.zip
      3. Extract the files to a C: drive folder
      4. To run WuMgr, click on the file wumgr
      5. Options:
        1. Windows Update
          1. Offline Mode                                   Unchecked
          2. Download wsusscn2.cab               Greyed over but checked
          3. “Manual download/install            Unchecked
          4. Included superseded                      Unchecked
          5. Register Microsoft Update            Checked
        2. Startup
          1. Run in background                          Unchecked
          2. No auto search for updates            Greyed over
          3. Always run as administrator          Unchecked
    • Auto Update:
      1. Block access to WU servers                                  Unchecked
      2. Disable Automatic Update                                    Unchecked
        1. Disable Update Facilitators                        Unchecked
      3. Notification Only                                                     Unchecked
      4. Download Only                                                        Unchecked
      5. Schedule Installation                                              Unchecked
      6. Automatic Update (default)                                  Checked
      7. Hide WU settings page                                           Unchecked
      8. Disable Store Auto Update                                     Unchecked
      9. Include drivers                                                          Unchecked
    1. Questions:
      1. Can I assume that WuMgr is not really “installed” on my computer, but every time I want to perform Windows Update, I click on WuMgr and it installs the program at that time so I can run it?
      2. Otherwise, Windows Update will never run?
      3. Are there any options I need to check or uncheck before running WuMgr?
      4. Should I NOT have my computer on “metered connection”?

     

    1. Running WuMgr to INSTALL desired updates
      1. Click on the Circle on the left to search for all the available updates
        1. Question: Since I have been using Wushowhide, my updates are paused and have metered connection. When I run WuMgr this weekend, should I keep the Windows Updates paused and the connection metered? If not, and I “Resume Updates”, won’t the computer start updating files before I have a chance to start WuMgr?
      2. After searching for updates, I should check the updates I want to install using Susan Clark’s current Master Patch list).
        1. Just to verify, the 2nd box (a triangle pointing down will only download the files, whereas, the 3rd box (a down arrow with box will download and install the files).
        2. Question: Do I download the updates one file at a time, or do I check all the updates that I want to download and download them all at one time (possibly a very silly question but ……)?

     

    1. Running WuMgr to HIDE desired updates
      1. Once again, Click on the Circle on the left to search for all the available updates
      2. Check the updates I want to hide
      3. Select the eye with the slash thru it.
      4. The updates chosen will now be hidden.
      5.  Question: Since Windows Update is no longer Paused and connections are no longer Metered, what is protecting my computer from update files which Microsoft may send to my computer. In other words, what is stopping Windows Update from updating?

     

    Ahead of time, thank you for any assistance provided.

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    • #2685966

      https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/60002-guide-to-using-wumgr-for-windows-10-updates/

      Windows Update and WUMgr use the Windows Update Service to scan for updates. If you use “Pause Updates” you disable the Windows Update Service so that neither Windows Update or WUMgr (or wushowhide, for that matter) can scan for updates. You will see no updates if you have Pause set.

      If you use WUMgr, do not use Pause.

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    • #2685974

      I use “metered connection” always enabled in conjunction with WuMgr. Some say it is not necessary, but I like the added control.

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    • #2685980

      I’ve been using WUMgr for a while, and here’s how my settings differ from the way you listed them:

      • Under Options —> Startup, I have “Always run as Administrator” checked.
      • Under the Auto Update tab, I have “Disable Automatic Update” checked and “Automatic Update (default)” unchecked. The check box to “Disable Update Facilitators” is checked but grayed out. The option to “Hide WU Settings Page” is also checked but grayed out, although it’s been so long since I’ve fiddled with the WUMgr settings that I honestly couldn’t tell you how I managed to do that: everything has been working so smoothly.
      • I also have “Include Drivers” checked (actually, for me it shows up as a blue box within the checkbox). I do like to see what drivers are available, but others may have a different preference.

      Hope this helps!

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    • #2686005

      Installing WuMgr to your computer

      Wumgr is a portable app that doesn’t need installation/uninstall.
      As portable you don’t put the app on C drive (unless you have only 1 partition which is bad mixing OS and data).
      You put portable apps on separate data partition/drive.

      You can either run Windows Update or WUmgr which gives you control over the updates.
      With WUmgr updates are installed only after you selected them and click ‘install’

      Windows 10 Pro 22H2 Wumgr settings :

      User is admin. Notify=2

      wumgr1

      wumgr2

      • #2686079

        Windows 10 Pro 22H2 Wumgr settings : User is admin. Notify=2

        I added the bolding for emphasis.


        @Alex5723
        , the OP is using Windows 10 Home (stated in other posts of theirs here on AskWoody), so that setting of Notify=2 in GP is of no use.  🙁

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    • #2686017

      As portable you don’t put the app on C drive (unless you have only 1 partition which is bad mixing OS and data)

      I disagree, there is no reason to use anything other than C for portable or installed apps AND your data.

      Loads of apps store some data on C anyway so you need it backed up.
      Backing up data you have created (docs, spreadsheets etc) is easy if they are all under “Documents”.

      The only time I use other drives for data is static data like photos and music. This data never changes and is very large, so you can get away with a smaller C if this data is stored on D.

      cheers, Paul

    • #2686044

      I disagree, there is no reason to use anything other than C for portable or installed apps AND your data.

      Agree except for the following.

      I do a LOT of video editing and have a separate 1 TB drive dedicated to storing all the data used for that.

      I also have a separate 512 GB drive that contains all my downloads (in case one ever needs to be reinstalled) and “compressed” copies of the data for various websites I maintain (in case a site gets compromised or the hosting provider loses their backup copy of it.)

      BTW, WuMgr only uses 1.09 MB so why not keep it on the main OS drive?

    • #2686071

      I have used WuMgr for a long time. I do things differently.

      I always create an image before doing anything. <—————-

      1 before you do anything, regular windows update must be fully active and running – no pause, no delay. Wide open.

      2 d/l and expand WuMgr wherever and optionally pin the exe to the taskbar. Mine points to “E:\DNLOADS\MS Windows Update Mgr for 10 wuMGR\WuMgr_v1.1b\wumgr.exe” It doesn’t matter where you put it!

      3 click on the WuMgr pin icon
      4 click on “Auto Update” tab
      5 click on “disable automatic update”
      6 reboot as it says to do. <———————
      -after the reboot:
      7 WuMgr is NOW controlling Windows Update. Note that “hide WU settings page” is checked and dimmed so you can’t access regular Windows Update – DON’T FORGET TO MANUALLY UNCHECK THIS IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK!!!!!!!!!!!

      Note – to see what is available to be updated, click on the circle. let it search, check the ones you want, and click the install icon and it will install it/them. I usually only do one at a time. I leave Drivers checked as occasionally I want to install a mobo driver though I usually just hide the rest. I never install previews.

      Easy peasy.

      Screenshot-2024-07-07-135754

    • #2686118

      As portable you don’t put the app on C drive (unless you have only 1 partition which is bad mixing OS and data)

      I disagree, there is no reason to use anything other than C for portable or installed apps AND your data.

      Loads of apps store some data on C anyway so you need it backed up.
      Backing up data you have created (docs, spreadsheets etc) is easy if they are all under “Documents”.

      The only time I use other drives for data is static data like photos and music. This data never changes and is very large, so you can get away with a smaller C if this data is stored on D.

      cheers, Paul

      Interesting Paul. I will think about that. I consider myself as having about 20GB of fairly static stuff, Downloads, my Documents, Drivers, and music etc, that I carry forward as I change operating systems, so I keep that all on a different (E) partition. That way, too, if C gets hosed I can just restore the 40GB of C and not necessarily the additional 20GB of the stuff to install the drivers and apps. I also have several other NTSF partitions for things like games and older libraries/backups. One or more of these non-C partitions also has information that I occasionally need when using linux, so keeps it separate from C.

      • #2686205

        Your use is atypical, but is a valid case for data separation. It’s not “one size fits all” out there.  🙂

        cheers, Paul

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