Windows 7 64 SP-1 Experience

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Hello all,
Just wanted to report on my Hp Pavilion Desktop’s “7” SP-1 installation. Keep in mind that i am only reporting what has happened to me, and I’m only the messenger. I downloaded the service pack when offered from windows update. I have two Windows 7 64 OS’s (same hardware and programs) One with all patches and updates and the other ….with none….”Zippo”. I let Windows install the update along with two others (on the patched OS) and was installed “successfully” (Yea !) Within a few minutes after the new install, the PC shut down and attempted to re-boot herself .Only to be stuck in the “BIOS” screen. At that point i tried to switch off using the tower …. no go, had to “pull the plug” This followed for three more times ….(no blue screen log) didn’t have enough time to investigate anything else between shutdowns. Previously i made a “Macrium Reflect” backup and recovered to before the SP-1 install . All is well again except for the usual “buggyness” of the completely patched system. Here are a few observations

1. After installation “SP-1” decreased my HD by 2GB ( didn’t have enough time to remove the “backup”)

2. The two “7” OS’s have diverged one from another a total of 6 GB (patched vs no patches)

3. The OS with no patches exhibits none of the “quirkyness” that the fully patched OS has.
I will try this experiment again in a few weeks in case there is some problem with the “service pack” and report back as to the results….Conclusion… “If it ain’t broke, blah blah, blah. :cheers: Regards Fred

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Thanks for the info Fred, I am running the same Win 7, 64 Bit fully patched system, so now I definately will wait on this update.

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I am running the same Win 7, 64 Bit fully patched system, so now I definitely will wait on this update.

James S,
Hello… The bottom line with any of these “updates patches service packs”, Is…Take an Image, and store it to another hard drive external or internal if possible. If you don’t have a “Imaging” program ( other than the MS flavor)you can get a good one for free from “Macrium Reflect” that is much better than the “MS” offering. http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.asp If you need more “info” post back.:cheers: Regards Fred
PS: the problem that i have experienced is probably because of my “unusual” PC…but thought that i would pass along and warn others about a possible problem with SP-1.

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Hello Fred.

I have done three machines here to SP-1 and no ill effect.

Except, there is always somehting ! All my passwords and users’ names were deleted but kept again after the retyping of them.

Also, the “Default Programmes” were all reset to the MS default, I first noticed this when looking at some .jpg. I normally use Paintshop v.6, it had defaulted to PhotoViewer. I am on lookout for others.

Aside from this, SP-1 has been a joyful install. ( so far ! ) Jean.

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I have not made a practice of creating an image file; I back up everything automatically but from what I understand, an image file would certainly be way easier for a restore. A few minutes’ rather than a few days’ worth of work. The Macrium software you reference looks good, and I believe you that it’s a reliable alternative. My question is whether the image backup in Norton Security Suite (provided by my ISP, Comcast) is also reliable. Presumably it is, but it’s better not to rely on “presumably” in case others here have had experience with it. Any comments?

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I have not made a practice of creating an image file; I back up everything automatically but from what I understand, an image file would certainly be way easier for a restore.

Erik,
Hello…An “image ” is an exact copy of your whole “OS”…everything! With Macrium free you can Image and recover, and verify in a matter of minutes for each operation. (depends on the size of OS) Acronis 2010 can “image and “verify” my OS (about 20GB) in less than 7 minutes. As Ted has stated check out the links or post a question in the “Security & Backups ” forum :cheers: Regards Fred

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I downloaded and installed SP1 a few days ago on my desktop (W7 Ultimate 64-bit system). So far the only issue was that it completely messed up my Gadgets. This was resolved by disabling the gadgets (Control Panel|Programs & Features|Turn Windows Features on or off|Windows Gadget Platform) then rebooting, re-enabling and reinstalling the gadgets.

I’ve just installed it on my laptop (W7 Ultimate 32-bit) and no isues whatsoever.

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I use TeraByte Unlimited Image for Windows and the accomanying Image for DOS. The former will back up any partition, including my Win 7/Apps, from within Win7, while allowing me to continue to work (it automatically runs PhylLock in order to do this). The latter runs at boot time, allowing restoration of an non-bootable partition. It is not very expensive, and will also run under Linux.

As a second means of protecting data, I use Super Flexible File Synchronizer on my non-OS partitions. It keeps external and internal HD copies of my data in sync, capturing incremental changes. It too runs within Win 7, running 8 hard drive partition syncs simultaneously to two separate external HD’s. It will not sync any open data files, but takes little time so I do not have to wait very long to get back to my work.

This combination is much faster and more thorough than many “backup” programs.

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The installation went well (W7x32), but hibernate no longer worked: BSOD: Stop 0x000000A0 Internal_Power_Error.
I have tried: run > powercfg /hibernate /size 100
and run > powercfg /hibernate /size 150…
Neither fixed the issue.

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The installation went well (W7x32), but hibernate no longer worked: BSOD: Stop 0x000000A0 Internal_Power_Error.
I have tried: run > powercfg /hibernate /size 100
and run > powercfg /hibernate /size 150…
Neither fixed the issue.

Have you checked the size of hiberfil.sys? It must be as large as the amount of RAM you have.

Have you tried disabling hibernation, rebooting, delete hiberfil.sys, re-enable hibernation?
Joe

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Have you checked the size of hiberfil.sys? It must be as large as the amount of RAM you have.

Have you tried disabling hibernation, rebooting, delete hiberfil.sys, re-enable hibernation?
Joe

Hiberfile.sys does not have to equal the size of installed RAM. It depends on how much RAM is installed. If you have plenty of RAM, it’s more like 75% of installed RAM.

My laptop (D800) has 2 GB RAM, and hiberfile.sys is 1.5 GB. I use hibernation nearly always; I just close the lid.

This Dell 580 midtower has 6 GB RAM, and hiberfile.sys is only 4.5 GB in size.

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

We were all once "Average Users".

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Hiberfile.sys does not have to equal the size of installed RAM. It depends on how much RAM is installed. If you have plenty of RAM, it’s more like 75% of installed RAM.

My laptop (D800) has 2 GB RAM, and hiberfile.sys is 1.5 GB. I use hibernation nearly always; I just close the lid.

This Dell 580 midtower has 6 GB RAM, and hiberfile.sys is only 4.5 GB in size.

You are correct. More investigation shows that with Windows 7 the default allocation is 75% of installed RAM. Memory contents are compressed when hibernation is invoked.

Joe

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Have you checked the size of hiberfil.sys? It must be as large as the amount of RAM you have.

Have you tried disabling hibernation, rebooting, delete hiberfil.sys, re-enable hibernation?
Joe

I tried all of those, AND powercfg /hibernate /size 150 (which properly set hiberfil.sys to 150% of RAM).
Finally reverted to non-SP1 with Acronis.

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Installation appears to be a bit of a lottery, I’m on 64-bit Home Premium and installed using Windows update. For some reason the installation seemed to continue even after rebooting (at least I saw several installing/configuring messages) but in the end all seems to be OK. I see some others have been less fortunate although I’ve also seen a lot of people for whom it installed smoothly.

Graham

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Installation appears to be a bit of a lottery, I’m on 64-bit Home Premium and installed using Windows update. For some reason the installation seemed to continue even after rebooting (at least I saw several installing/configuring messages) but in the end all seems to be OK. I see some others have been less fortunate although I’ve also seen a lot of people for whom it installed smoothly.

Graham

This is the normal behavior. After reboot Windows is cleaning up the installation, deleteing tempt files, etc. You will see it go through to 100 %. perfectly normal.

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I usually do windows update manually on my machines, at a time that suits better. A Ghost or Acronis Image is taken before and after.

So far I have installed SP1 on 1 desktop running pro 64 bit, a laptop running HP 64bit and a netbook running HP 32bit, all were already fully patched. So far so good, although I did find they seemed to repsond better after a couple of restarts. I have not found any programs that don’t work, but only have office 2003/2010 an accounts program, photoshop and a scanner installed variously on these machines.

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I received my new Win 7 64 computer on Tuesday, installed SP1 on Wednesday. So technically it was a new PC, but I’m sure some of you can relate to the fact that my computers don’t stay in a brand-new state for more than a few minutes after it’s turned on the first time. I also wanted to install some of my most-used programs prior to the update so I could compare their performance before and after SP1.

Install went well. After the reboot, a few things seemed sluggish, so I rebooted again and then it was fine. The only issue I’m having is that my monitor occasionally doesn’t reestablish the HDMI connection after a reboot, but I’m going to look for new drivers today (both for the monitor and the Nvidia card) and see if that’s the problem. The HDMI cable came in the mail as SP1 was installing, so it could be a coincidence that’s only driver-related and not SP1-related. I only know that I did not have this issue when it was connected with VGA before SP1.

For those who mentioned Macrium – on my Vista & XP machines, I’ve been using Macrium Reflect free version. I saw that Just Plain Fred mentioned that it’s better than the backup in Win 7. I do like Macrium, it’s very fast, but the free version does not do incrementals, so I’m curious as to why you prefer it. I’m wondering if there’s something I’m missing that would make it the better choice over the MS option.

I did my backups with the Win 7 tools, and also created Factory Restore discs, but I’m going to have to set up the backup again today when I install the second hard drive. (I committed the mortal sin of backing up to a partition on the system drive, but on the off chance the drive failed this week, I’ve only got a few days of set-up to recreate. Normally I’d not do that. Ever. I’m just tired of juggling external drives at the moment, and I’m running out of places to plug in AC adapters.)

Christa

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I’ve been using Macrium Reflect free version. I saw that Just Plain Fred mentioned that it’s better than the backup in Win 7. I do like Macrium, it’s very fast, but the free version does not do incrementals, so I’m curious as to why you prefer it. I’m wondering if there’s something I’m missing that would make it the better choice over the MS option.
Christa,

Hello… The short answer..Is

1. I never do “Incremental s” There are too many possibilities for something to go wrong. If one(incremental) doesn’t work out quite right,or gets corrupted the whole thing is toast.

2.The user interface (GUI) is straight forward and easy to use (with Macrium) The “tools” are all easy to use.

3.With Macrium you can “Verify” the image. ( never had a verified image fail done scores of recoveries ) both with Acronis 2010 v-7046 and Macrium

4.You can “mount the “Image” and have a look for yourself…see if all is there etc.

5.As you have stated 3rd party Imaging is faster than the “clunky” MS flavor… With Acronis i can Image my OS with verification in less than 7 minutes…Macrium is a bit slower. (about 20-to 25 GB depending on which OS I’m running)

6. Macrium uses “compression” ( your choice of how much) SO you can save many more backups in less HD space.

7.You can make (burn) a ” Boot Disk” and it runs the program at boot time …bypassing windows altogether.SO if you toast your OS you can boot into Macrium or Acronis and “fix it” :cheers: Regards Fred

PS : Just search the Security & Backup board and you can find a lot about both

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Christa,

Hello… The short answer..Is

1. I never do “Incremental s” There are too many possibilities for something to go wrong. If one(incremental) doesn’t work out quite right,or gets corrupted the whole thing is toast.

2.The user interface (GUI) is straight forward and easy to use (with Macrium) The “tools” are all easy to use.

3.With Macrium you can “Verify” the image. ( never had a verified image fail done scores of recoveries ) both with Acronis 2010 v-7046 and Macrium

4.You can “mount the “Image” and have a look for yourself…see if all is there etc.

5.As you have stated 3rd party Imaging is faster than the “clunky” MS flavor… With Acronis i can Image my OS with verification in less than 7 minutes…Macrium is a bit slower. (about 20-to 25 GB depending on which OS I’m running)

6. Macrium uses “compression” ( your choice of how much) SO you can save many more backups in less HD space.

7.You can make (burn) a ” Boot Disk” and it runs the program at boot time …bypassing windows altogether.SO if you toast your OS you can boot into Macrium or Acronis and “fix it” :cheers: Regards Fred

PS : Just search the Security & Backup board and you can find a lot about both

Sorry it took me so long to respond. I forgot to turn on notifications. I finally got around to installing the second hard drive, so I’m legitimately backing up now. I understand your reasoning regarding incrementals vs full images, and I used to feel the same way. In the last few days I’ve decided on a compromise. I’m doing either full images only or image+incremental, depending on the content of each partition. The image+incremental partitions are still getting a fresh image every so many days, again depending on the content and how often it’s likely to change.

Thank you for sharing the reasons for your preference. Many of the other features you mention are present to some degree in the Win 7 tool, or at least to the extent that I need them at the moment. That could change once I get “settled in” with my new machine, or when I get a third hard drive, whichever comes first.

Perhaps my reticence to install Macrium stems from my elation that MS finally included a workable backup solution in a Home version of their operating system.

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No major issues here. My download was small due to keeping my machine up to date. My only issue is that now my boot time has increased by 15-25 seconds. I do not see any new items in the start up and the drive has been defragmented.

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Thanks for the info Fred, I am running the same Win 7, 64 Bit fully patched system, so now I definately will wait on this update.

There are a couple of things to remember about install any service pack:

1.) Make a complete backup of your system.
2.) Make sure that you have the most current BIOS for your system.
3.) Make sure your device drivers are current.
4.) Make sure any prerequisite patches are applied. See the service pack documentation.
5.) Double check that you have made a complete backup of your system before starting the service pack installation.

Even though I keep my systems fully patched I download the complete setup package for the service pack and use it instead of Windows Update. Even though the Windows Update method works for most people, I’ve had better luck through a number of Windows releases using full service pack downloads. Also, once you download the full service pack burn it to a DVD then it will be available if you ever need to rebuild your system from scratch or if you need to apply it multiple systems.

Joe

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i installed it and what a mess, half my games wouldnt work lock up plus slowed my comp. down
glad i had a backup
i wont install sr1 ever

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i installed it and what a mess, half my games wouldnt work lock up plus slowed my comp. down
glad i had a backup
i wont install sr1 ever

Mark,
Hello…. Just an update….I downloaded the SP-1 from Windows Updates again, and “let-er-rip”. This time one update failed (KB2387530) , but the “service pack” was successful. So far after a few hours of running all seems well . Don’t have any idea why the first go-around went badly. Maybe the download was somehow corrupted.I then removed the backup (SP-1), and all seems OK for now. I didn’t use “Joe’s” method as the “stand alone” download was around 1.9GB… Would have taken me hours….Bottom line…. If you try it, just have a backup handy ( full Image) just in case.:cheers: Regards Fred

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I have to agree with Fred here. Not only do I make new Up To Date Images whenever I make major changes to my PC (adding apps, SP1, etc) I make a new Image before and after. It’s easy to delete the Image you do not need when things work well, but if things don’t work so well, you will be cursing yourself for not having the new Image.

Our 2 laptops (64 Bit) are working well as of now.

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Works great on 2 systems, both 64 Bit. I suspect many of the aforementioned problems have more to do with the installed apps than with Win 7. I would hazard a guess that many problems with slow down are because there are so many apps starting with Windows. Most installed apps think they have to start at Windows start up which is just not so. Simply shutting down some of these apps might be all that is needed. Using an app such as What’s In Startup, check how many items are starting with Windows and stop most of them.

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The 2 Imaging apps discussed the most (in the Security and Backups forum) are Macrium Reflect(free) and Acronis True Image(not free – I use both 2010 and 2011 editions). I have not used the Macrium Reflect(tutorial) so can not comment on it, but I have used Acronis True Image, and wrote a short tutorialin these forums, on it. Check out both.

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My SP1 upgrade went almost flawlessly. The only issue I had was on first boot after install. So much was going on (SP1 stuff I presume), that one of my start up programs failed to start and my internet connection failed for some reason. I was connected to the router but not to internet. Probably some Windows strangeness caused by all that was going on (timing?). I uninstalled the app that failed to start (probably unnecessary) and re-booted.

Everything was and is fine.

BTW: X2 on the following except number 2. I forget who posted this.

1.) Make a complete backup of your system.
2.) Make sure that you have the most current BIOS for your system.
3.) Make sure your device drivers are current.
4.) Make sure any prerequisite patches are applied. See the service pack documentation.
5.) Double check that you have made a complete backup of your system before starting the service pack installation.

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I discovered 1 issue with my Service Pack installation; many of my office viewers like Powerpoint would not work anymore.
I had to reinstall them in order to get their functionality back.

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I had trouble downloading SP1…first had to install the afore mentioned update, to get SP1 to install. It then crashed half way…. just stopped! Waited….waited….then just turned computer off.. Restarted…. GREEN window…. restarted…. all seemed fine, as SP1 also restarted…and finally INSTALLED. But I have NOT been able to install the Windows XP MODE! Could this have anything to do with not being able to download xp mode? Tried, it verified I had ‘valid’ Windows… but that is as far as I got! I am NOT the best at operating computers….. Try to hold my own… at age 64/and haven’t had as much operating time as other’s! Thanks….for any help.

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If you can’t download XP mode you surely will not be able to install it. Additionally, you must have Windows 7 Pro, Ultimate, or Enterprise to install XP mode. If you have a HOME version of Windows 7 you need to consider a different VM.

Joe

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If you can’t download XP mode you surely will not be able to install it. Additionally, you must have Windows 7 Pro, Ultimate, or Enterprise to install XP mode. If you have a HOME version of Windows 7 you need to consider a different VM.

Joe

Hi Joe, I have Windows 7 Pro. And that IS the problem, I can not install Windows XP Mode.. The install page first checks to see if you have “real” Windows, then says to continue on to download. But when I click on the “download” button, nothing happens. I have tried over and over. It seems there isn’t an answer.. Very frustrating!

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Is the download button “active” (i.e. does your copy of Windows pass muster)?

Joe

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SP-1 installed without a problem. However, I made sure that I made an image first with Acronis Home 2011 – just in case. Some specs of my system follow:
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Hi All,

Just got back from my winter haunts in southern Texas. I updated my desktop to W7-SP1 64Bit w/o problem and everything is working fine. I then transferred all my files from my laptop I’ve been using for the last 3 months and attempted to update the Laptop.

Windows Update will NOT offer me the SP1 update for the Laptop. According to MS KB-2498452 it’s because of the video driver for the built-in video on my Intel i5 processor is not up to date. Intel tells you to get the updated version from your PC manufacturer. Unfortunately, Dell doesn’t offer an update and doesn’t even mention the problem any where on their support site.

Has anyone found a way around this problem?:cheers:

May the Forces of good computing be with you!

RG

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Unfortunately, Dell doesn’t offer an update and doesn’t even mention the problem any where on their support site.

Has anyone found a way around this problem?:cheers:

I have used Intel driver updates for the chipset on a Dell motherboard. I have found that if Dell has modified the innards very much, the Intel driver will refuse to install, and if the modifications have been insignificant, the Intel driver will work just fine. I’m using an Intel Graphics driver on my new Inspiron 580 (i3-550) midtower. Runs great.

I would advise a drive image beforehand, though.

I’m running Windows 7 Ultimate on a Latitude D800 which Dell says won’t run Windows 7. I “Vista-ized” my nVidia graphics driver after installing Windows 7 and got my default display properties back, and Windows Update had some updated drivers for other parts of the Dell motherboard. It now runs Windows 7 a bit crisper than it runs XP (I still dual boot).

The D800 is plodding its way through SP1 as we speak (full drive image beforehand), progress bar at about 2/3’s and plenty of drive activity going on. We’ll see…

I looked at your laptop specs, and your board should be an HM55 chipset. Intel has this driver for that chipset.

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

We were all once "Average Users".

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The D800 is plodding its way through SP1 as we speak (full drive image beforehand), progress bar at about 2/3’s and plenty of drive activity going on. We’ll see…

Success. It took between 2 1/2 and 3 hours (downloaded the Service Pack to the hard drive and installed from there), but no hangups. Configuring at shutdown and reboot was significantly longer than for my desktop, but again, no hiccups, just lots of hard drive activity. I’m running MSE and did not disable it, but it caused no problems.

It lost the printer, a network printer, but when I clicked on “Add a device”, it had no trouble finding it and installing the drivers. Not bad for an old laptop (8 years) that’s not supposed to be able to run Windows 7 in the first place.

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

We were all once "Average Users".

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Success. It took between 2 1/2 and 3 hours (downloaded the Service Pack to the hard drive and installed from there), but no hangups. Configuring at shutdown and reboot was significantly longer than for my desktop, but again, no hiccups, just lots of hard drive activity. I’m running MSE and did not disable it, but it caused no problems.

It lost the printer, a network printer, but when I clicked on “Add a device”, it had no trouble finding it and installing the drivers. Not bad for an old laptop (8 years) that’s not supposed to be able to run Windows 7 in the first place.

Pretty impressive for a machine that age. BTW, it’ll probably be noticably slower than normal for a while. Windows 7 has to rebuild prefetch cache. Defrag has to run. If you index your Windows install folder and/or Program Files then they must be reindexed. After you are OK with SP1, see Windows 7 SP1 Disk Cleanup Tool – Windows 7 Forums to reclaim quite a bit of disk space.

Joe

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Pretty impressive for a machine that age. BTW, it’ll probably be noticably slower than normal for a while. Windows 7 has to rebuild prefetch cache. Defrag has to run. If you index your Windows install folder and/or Program Files then they must be reindexed. After you are OK with SP1, see Windows 7 SP1 Disk Cleanup Tool – Windows 7 Forums to reclaim quite a bit of disk space.

Joe

Actually, the only slowness is first logon. I installed from my admin account, so that’s the one I logged back in on after the reboot configuration. It took a while sorting that out, but then it ran at what I perceive to be its normal speed. A little hesitation here and there; some apps snap right open, some pause noticably, then snap open, and once open all seem to run at normal speed.

Again when I logged off admin and logged on my bbearren account, it took a while getting that sorted out, but then seemed to run at its normal speed. Same bits of hesitation as above, and I haven’t really tried to use anything much, just checking apps to see if I had lost any, but so far everything shows up.

I did a disk cleanup and a thorough defrag (MyDefrag 4.3.1) before I made my pre-SP drive image, and I’m doing another thorough defrag now. I’ll check out the Disk Cleanup Tool in a day or two, thanks for the link.

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

We were all once "Average Users".

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I’ll check out the Disk Cleanup Tool in a day or two, thanks for the link.

As it turns out, that’s my normal cleanup (I use the sageset/sagerun switches for a thorough cleanup). I had used it just before I defragged and made a Pre-SP1 image. I also did a Post-SP1 image, so I went ahead and did the cleanup.

I gained 0.1 GB of free space on the D800, but then it was already well scrubbed, and my Windows Update was up to date, so the actual Service Pack install didn’t need to include any of those.

At present my Inspiron 580 midtower is undergoing SP-1 on a carved up version of Windows 7 Ultimate (see Set 7 Free for details; Windows, Program Files and Users each on separate partitions). We’ll see how that goes. It’s at about 80% on the progress bar after about 30 minutes.

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

We were all once "Average Users".

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At present my Inspiron 580 midtower is undergoing SP-1 on a carved up version of Windows 7 Ultimate (see Set 7 Free for details; Windows, Program Files and Users each on separate partitions). We’ll see how that goes. It’s at about 80% on the progress bar after about 30 minutes.

About an hour and twenty minutes, no hiccups (installed from the hard drive).

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

We were all once "Average Users".

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Hello JoeP.

>>>see Windows 7 SP1 Disk Cleanup Tool – Windows 7 Forums Thanks for the link.

Not only I recovered more than the suggested 1 G, I got near 3 Gs of space back. The setup files for SP1 were quite a long time getting erased.

As I always have a recent clone, I jumped on the wagon and cleaned the C: with gusto. aside from loosing all the Restore Points and most of the user’s passwords, all is fine. I can see as you wrote, that the previous points are worthless. Now one done, two to go.

Have a nice day. Jean.

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I looked at your laptop specs, and your board should be an HM55 chipset. Intel has this driver for that chipset.

BBearren,

Thanks for the link. :cheers:Unfortuantely, it didn’t work {see below} apparently it isn’t that easy to outfox the guys at Dell or Intel????:evilgrin::angry:

May the Forces of good computing be with you!

RG

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BBearren,

Thanks for the link. :cheers:Unfortuantely, it didn’t work {see below} apparently it isn’t that easy to outfox the guys at Dell or Intel????:evilgrin::angry:

I’m sorry that one didn’t work for you. It’s more successful with desktops; I think Dell does a bit more tweaking with their laptop boards. The good part of it is that in the majority of cases, it either works, or it doesn’t. It won’t leave you with a half-installed driver and a machine ready for an image restore… (but it’s always best to have a fresh image ready, just in case).

I couldn’t get a graphics driver for Windows 7 for my D800 with an nVidia card anywhere, but these guys have a mobility modder for nVidia and ATI drivers. When I upgraded to Windows 7 they were only up to Vista drivers, but that worked fine for my card, and evidently it’s still a good enough graphics driver for SP-1. [/FONT]

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

We were all once "Average Users".

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Hello again All…

Success! :thewave:I downloaded the 64bit SP-1 file from the MS download site, Took another Image and away it went. After about an hour I seem to have a fully functioning Dell Laptop {see specs below} with SP-1 installed. I’ve tested all Office 2007 pro apps, network magic, Chrome, FF, etc and all seems to be working as it should. Seems like Windows Update is erring on the cautious side in not offering me the update because of my graphics driver. According to KB 2498452 it’s only apps using Direct2D technology that have problems and apparently nothing I have tried yet is using that technology. I’ll keey ya’ll posted.

May the Forces of good computing be with you!

RG

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Good morning RG,

I have tried both ways with success in both cases. I used Windows Update for my wife’s 64 Bit Win 7 HP and everything was fine. I downloaded the file and installed on my Win 7 Ultimate also with success. It does however seem that Windows Update may be a little flaky with older hardware. I also seem to read about more problems with people who do not disable their AV during the update. From my perspective the first step in this update is to create an Image just in case. Then start with the update.

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I have posted my normal disk cleanup batch file in the past but it’s worth repeating. This includes sageset and sage run as well. It’s something I got from Fred Langa several years and at least 4 versions of Windows ago. It has been updated for Win 7 paths. (A user would replace my user name with their own)

Paste into Notepad, make what ever modifications are necessary then save to desktop as a .bat file (mine is called CleanUp.bat)

cleanmgr /sageset:99
del /q /s “C:UsersTedAppDataLocalTemp*.*”
del /q /s “C:WindowsTemp*.*”
del /q /s “C:Temp*.*”
cleanmgr /sagerun:99

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On my desktop I use different accounts for different purposes, and I set each one with enough differences in appearrence so that I know which one I’m using without having to click the Start button to see the account name.

A couple of different customizations were off a bit on each account after SP1 it seemed, so I decided instead of going back through each account searching and resetting, I used my drive image to revert to pre-SP1, ran the Easy Transfer Wizard, ran SP-1 again, then transferred the settings to the “new” computer.

After that, only one has shown so far – one background went from a slideshow to a static background. All else is as it should be.

For anyone who hasn’t made the upgrade yet, when you get ready, use the Easy Transfer Wizard (as well as your pre-SP-1 drive image) in case there are a couple of things that seem out of place.

And on my D800, closing the lid made it sleep instead of hibernate. All that was needed was to reconfigure the power settings, so I didn’t have a do-over on it.

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

We were all once "Average Users".

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Hello Again All,

Had a new SP1 problem popup today with my desktop. I received my Turbo Tax today form Amazon and went to load it and my DVD drive wouldn’t read it! Bad Disk? I tried 3 other disks same problem… I was in a taxing mood so I loaded the CD into my laptop, shared the laptops DVD and copied the files over the network to get it installed. Completed my taxes and went back to getting the drive working.

1st stop the Dell site to see if new drivers were available…no such luck!:confused:
2nd stop Device Manager…Device working properly…Yeah RIGHT!:mad: But I did notice that it was using the generic MS driver. So I selected Uninstall, Rebooted and viola my drive is back working.:fanfare:

Just thought this saga may be useful to others.:cheers:

May the Forces of good computing be with you!

RG

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Guess I was fortunate. Heard folks that had all kinds of issues including hibernate and sleep won’t work. I had none of these. Took forever (over an hour) to do though. Also, after reboot, it took a lot of time for .NET optimizations which also took some CPU cycles too (taskmanager), but after it did that, all was well. I saw somewere concerning a lot of junk that can be deleted after the install and I did do them.

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Guess I was fortunate. Heard folks that had all kinds of issues including hibernate and sleep won’t work. I had none of these. Took forever (over an hour) to do though. Also, after reboot, it took a lot of time for .NET optimizations which also took some CPU cycles too (taskmanager), but after it did that, all was well. I saw somewere concerning a lot of junk that can be deleted after the install and I did do them.

Could you post where or what you found concerning junk. Many of us might be interested in this.

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See Remove SP1 backup files . Note that after removing these files, you can no longer uninstall SP1. That’s why some sites recommend running with it for a while before deleting these files.

Jerry

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See Remove SP1 backup files . Note that after removing these files, you can no longer uninstall SP1. That’s why some sites recommend running with it for a while before deleting these files.

Jerry

If, prior to the installation of Service Pack 1, a drive image was made and safely stored (which I very strongly advise), uninstalling SP-1 is not a problem even without the backup files.

In fact, I would presume that such an uninstall (restoring a pre-SP-1 drive image) would be superior to the MS uninstall of SP-1. Absolutely no untidy bits left behind.

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

We were all once "Average Users".

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In point of fact I did just this. I had created the Up To Date Image just prior to installing SP1 the first time (I had gotten the file from a torrent other than MS). I did not feel comfortable with this file so I restored to my pre SP1 Image, downloaded the file directly from MS and installed with this file. All is well.

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Bbearen, what you say is true. However, not all users do image backups and the caution applies to them.

Jerry

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Bbearen, what you say is true. However, not all users do image backups and the caution applies to them.

Jerry

Which is the point I was hoping to make. Create a drive image before any major change, and on a routine basis for reliable system backup.

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

We were all once "Average Users".

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What works for you may not fit others. Some people do not wish to invest in purchasing additional external disk space or are intimidated by the process of disk imaging. While imaging is indeed a superior solution, 99% of the time, System Restore and selective data backup to a DVD is sufficient. I use both regular disk images and System restore. I have used System Restore a couple of times and it worked well. I have yet to use a system image to recover. To each his own. That’s why they’re called Personal Computers.

Jerry

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What works for you may not fit others. Some people do not wish to invest in purchasing additional external disk space or are intimidated by the process of disk imaging. While imaging is indeed a superior solution, 99% of the time, System Restore and selective data backup to a DVD is sufficient. I use both regular disk images and System restore. I have used System Restore a couple of times and it worked well. I have yet to use a system image to recover. To each his own. That’s why they’re called Personal Computers.

Jerry

And all this time I have been under the impression that the purpose of these (and other such) forums was to take some of the mystery out of the Personal Computing Experience and provide the less familiar with advice, illustration and instruction on taming the (somethimes) beast that is Windows.

What works for me will work for anyone; it’s simply a matter of application and degree. A drive image stored on a partition on the same hard drive that contains the OS is still better than no drive image at all. That is, after all, how I started out protecting my data and my OS, and it worked quite well.

After all, Windows failures are far more common than hard drive failures. System Restore failures are far more common than hard drive failures, as well.

If a user has not burned a repair disk and is relying on System Restore to save his bacon, he’s pretty much out of luck if for some reason (of his own making or one of Window’s own quirks) Windows refuses to boot under any and all attempts.

Are we not here to provide help, guidance and encouragement?

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

We were all once "Average Users".

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We are all here to help. Opinions on how to do that will differ from time to time.

Let’s keep it cool guys.

Joe

--Joe

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I thought I would let everyone know about my experience with upgrading to SP1. I am running 7 Pro, 64-bit, on a home-built system. I first imaged the C: drive and made a restore point. The I accepted the SP1 update in Windows Update. It churned for a bit and spit out this message:

[INDENT]Service Pack installation failed with error code 0x800f0a12.
[/INDENT]
I googled the error and found a web page that talked about re-enabling the system partiton, or something like that (I cannot seem to find that page anymore – I think that a link on the installer error page led me to that page).

I triple boot my machine (I have 7, XP and Ubuntu installed) and use Grub as the boot manager. Apparently Grub bypasses the “system” partition (that 100MB partition that Disk Manager tells you is there but doesn’t let you get at), thus causing this error.

Fortunately, when I installed 7 I had only the one drive plugged in. And when I installed XP and Ubuntu, I placed them both on a second drive and I had only the second drive plugged in. Therefore, it was a simple think to either unplug all the drives except the 7 drive, or change the drive boot order in the BIOS to boot from the 7 drive (thus bypassing Grub). I decided to go with unplugging the other drives.

After that, SP1 installed just fine. As far as I can tell, everything is working as it should.

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I triple boot my machine (I have 7, XP and Ubuntu installed) and use Grub as the boot manager. Apparently Grub bypasses the “system” partition (that 100MB partition that Disk Manager tells you is there but doesn’t let you get at), thus causing this error.

cafed00d,
Hello… You might have a look at EasyBCD (free) http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1 you can configure your OS’s however you choose …Order,… Names …etc.At times i “Quint boot” Linux and various Windows .:cheers: Regards Fred

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@Just Plain Fred – I use EasyBCD for controlling the Win 7 boot menu, but on the whole I much prefer Grub.

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As I’ve mentioned in several other threads, I use BootIt NG, and it has BCD editing capabilities that are pretty straightforward. I’ve used EasyBCD, but I like BootIt NG.

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

We were all once "Average Users".

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