Windows 11: When no doesn’t mean no

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WINDOWS By Susan Bradley It all started when I saw reports of users who hadn’t approved the installation of Windows 11 but rebooted their computers to
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Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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remember this homeusers?,

no visible exit from the popup where the intended close button was actually a trigger to start the upgrade process from previous operating systems..

Nothing new here then for Win11 with the exception of using TRV settings on Win10.

This applies to Pro > editions IF you have a suitable device that conforms to the MSFT high-bar, otherwise it’s Win10 ’till 2025 or end of device life (whichever comes first if pursuing the redmond way)

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This same thing happened on Windows 10.  For Home users, Microsoft has decided that they own your hardware, and they will decide what you run.  Customer bedlam resulted in the introduction of the switch to postpone monthly updates, but they’re just postponed.

I switched to Linux Mint as my primary OS during the Get Windows X fiasco, and I’ve never been forced to upgrade anything.

My mom and sister will be using a laptop with Linux Mint as their next OS.  My only Win10 support duties are now comprised of one machine, my wife’s machine.  She got a new Mac last year and is in the process of transitioning.

Microsoft, your Windows Beta Home Test users are going to go elsewhere if you keep up with this nonsense.

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“These users assured me that they hadn’t approved the install.”  That means they didn’t see a eula. The people that have reached out to me are credible and they are not seeing that.

Don’t be so quick to blow this off.  In the past when end users report something odd there has been something else triggering the weird behavior (third party software) or it’s been a bug in the process.

Software doesn’t always work as advertised.

Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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A bug would be a good explanation of what happened to cause Windows 10 forced upgrades the first time.

It’s not a real excuse when it happens again, though. This seems to be intentional on Microsoft’s part. There was quite a bit of blow back on this the last time, so MS was certainly aware of the issue.

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Elrod wrote:

This same thing happened on Windows 10.  For Home users, Microsoft has decided that they own your hardware, and they will decide what you run

No.

Microsoft own your OS, and they will decide what version/updates you run.

If you want to decide what OS to run you can deactivate Windows, get a $50 refund and install Linux, MacOS (hackintosh), Windowsfx.

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doriel

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Alex5723 wrote:

No. Microsoft own your OS, and they will decide what version/updates you run. If you want to decide what OS to run you can deactivate Windows, get a $50 refund and install Linux, MacOS (hackintosh), Windowsfx.

advocating/ recommending ‘Hackintosh’, assuming the device chipset is intel then probably but not a good mention in any instance.

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Start here for some do-it-yourself measures:

https://www.askwoody.com/2022/let-your-pc-start-the-new-year-right-2022/

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I will bite as a sceptic, FUD is rife these days with click-bait articles and would like to see some openess regarding sources of the complaints within this commenting section. Some get their kicks from fake news, unfortunately it’s a social media attention/insecurity thing that has spread like a digital pandemic, no matter who you were or are now.

Put oneself in the spotlight, be prepared to back up findings goes a long way

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Direct emails that I’ve received with several credible people explaining what they saw and more importantly- what they didn’t.

And may I point out that you posted anonymously yourself.

Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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time for me to set the TargetReleaseVersion & TargetReleaseVersionInfo registry entries on my bro’s HP Spectre x360 15 2020 laptop (was pre-installed with Win10 Home v1903 but updated to Win10 Home v20H2 by itself a few months ago) to prevent the Win11 upgrade.

I’ll keep it at 20H2 for several months and then will upgrade straight to Win10 21H2 (and skipping 21H1)

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Microsoft is at this again? Silently upgrading users’ computers without permission?

I have said in the past it is quite possible for Microsoft to repeat such dirty tricks after the end of the “Get Windows 10” debacle. I would not be surprised if this is Microsoft attempting to “upgrade” its users (this time the users who are running Windows 10 on their “eligible” computers) without permission again.

Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.

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Microsoft has been sued and lost for upgrading Windows 7 to Windows 10 without users consent.
Everyone that has been upgraded to Windows 11 can sue too.

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Alex5723 wrote:

Microsoft own your OS, and they will decide what version/updates you run.

True ONLY if you do not install Winaero Tweaker which is a free fantastic app.

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Tom-R, Microfix

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How many home users have heard about Winaero Tweaker or any other 3rd party apps ?
Even home users with Pro versions don’t drill into GP settings.

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lots of readers and users actually, t’is worthy of a mention given it’s pedigree and continued support over many years

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