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    Hello everyone.

    I have just discovered this site and after reading a lot of nice and helpful messages, I have decided to write about my issue.

    Last december, I bought a refurbished HP Elitebook 1040 g6, (I7 8th Gen), for my daughter. It’s her first laptop (she is 11 and is learning how to use a PC at school). It came with Windows 10 pro installed. It worked flowlessly.

    Now, the other day she told me “why does my laptop looks different from yours? (I use a 2020 HP Spectre running on Win 11 24h2). I told her mine was running a newer OS. She asked me if it was possible to have the same, and said, “well, why not, if it can, I think I can install it”.

    I have to say the end of support this year scared me a bit (it’s my daughter’s pc after all, I don’t want her to be “unsafe”. So, last week, I made the jump.

    I should have understood it was a bad idea when I saw that the TPM was hidden in the BIOS, reason the update wouldn’t show up for her. The previous owner knew definitly better.

    But, I put it on 2.0 and after reboot, the update was there. I ran the update, went through the process and the pc booted Win 11 pro. No problems! Well, not really. The moment I looked for updates, it installed quality updates and other security ones. Ah, yeah Windows and its “updates of updates”. Restart time. Black screen on the log in page. I saw the wifi icon in the bottom right corner, but no picture, no log in boxes, just some messages that suggested backing-up. The moment I tried to “do” anything, everything got black with just the white cursor. I waited, nothing. “Ctrl + alt + del” did nothing. I tried to force reboot with the power button and instead got the “slide to switch off ” screen. The touch screen worked, I could slide it but it didn´t turn the PC off, just suspended it.

    I forced it to reboot, same thing. I did it three times, WinRE activated, and I tried to uninstall the update (until then, I thought it was the quality update that had messed it up). It got stuck on a black screen with swirling dots for 50min… I tried every options in WinRE, I ended up reinstalling Windows twice, trying it to pass the updates and rebooted, nothing. Same symptoms.

    30mn ago I finally reinstalled Windows again, BUT I installed Incontrol (GRC) the moment it booted after the fresh installation in order to block updates. I thought it was the end of the nightmare, but when I decided to restart to see what happened, I got the same thing: black screen, no log in boxes, same messages, etc. and the white cursor. So it’s Windows 11 itself, not the updates…

    Now, I don’t know what to do. The laptop seems to be uncompatible with Windows 11 24h2, or maybe Windows 11, who knows. But on a fresh install, it ran well while until I restarted it or switched it off.

    I deeply regret having ditched the perfectly fine Win 10 pro. I like Windows 11 on my own laptop. It’s fast, pretty, has a lots of good fonctionalities. I had it from day 1. But on my kiddo’s laptop, I can get it to work.

    The issue has got out of hands, my wife got really angry at me because I have spent days trying to fix the problem with no success. I don’t have the money in the current budget to send it to a technician because we have really big spendings coming up, so it’s not an option and I just can count on my poor skills.

    What now?

    Please help.

    Thanks in advance.

    Ben

     

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    • #2759258

      Do you have a backup of when it was a Windows 10?

      If you have a backup of 10, or have a backup of the data, have you tried downloading the ISO of Windows 10 and reinstalling?

      Do you think you can attach a screen shot as I’m trying to visualize what you mean by black screen?  Can you attach an external monitor and see anything?  Does this computer have a bios update you can try?

      Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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    • #2759279

      BUT I installed Incontrol (GRC) the moment it booted after the fresh installation in order to block updates.

      InControl doesn’t block monthly/security updates.
      InControl control Feature (upgrading from Windows 10 to Windows 11…) updates.

      On a Pro Windows you block updates using GPEdit.

      You have 10 days to restore the PC from Windows 11 to Windows 10

      * You should always create a full image copy to external HDD before any Windows changes.
      * Windows 11 24H2 is not recommended yet.
      You can check your PC for Windows 11 compatibility with WhyNotWin11 app (free portable)

      I have to say the end of support this year scared me a bit (it’s my daughter’s pc after all, I don’t want her to be “unsafe”. So, last week, I made the jump.

      Microsoft will sell 1 year support (ESU) for $30.

      0Patch Pro will sell 5 years support for $30 per year.

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      • #2759432

        InControl control Feature (upgrading from Windows 10 to Windows 11…) updates.

        What is meant by that sentence, @Alex5723 ??

        Do you mean to say that InControl only blocks or controls Feature updates and upgrades from one version of Windows to another one?

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    • #2759448

      Do you mean to say that InControl only blocks or controls Feature updates and upgrades from one version of Windows to another one?

      Yes. Its exactly what it does.

      On a Windows Pro this can be done using GPEdit TRV setting.

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      • #2759459

        InControl doesn’t block monthly/security updates. InControl control Feature (upgrading from Windows 10 to Windows 11…) updates.

        Not correct.
        It not only blocks Feature updates/upgrades (Win10 22H2 -> Win11 23H2 OR 24H2) but it also blocks Version updates (win10 21H2 -> 22H2, Win11 22H2 -> 23H2)

         

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        • #2759528

          Susan, unfortunately, I don´t have a backup of when it was on Windows 10 pro.

          I I ran the HP update assitant to see if there was a bios update or anything, but everything is up-to-date.

          I downloaded the ISO of Windows 10 pro last night, but since I did’t have any thumb drive available at that moment, I couldn’t try.

          Now, this morning I had a little time between some to-do tasks for work, so I tried to boot from a USB drive with a Windows Media Creator install (Win11 pro 24h2 🙁 ). I created in February when I had met a problem with my own PC (fixed). It wasn’t easy to make it boot, for some reason, but eventually the laptop finally recognized the drive in the boot mgr and I reinstalled Window 11 pro (again).

          It started well, I ran the HP update assitant to see if there was a bios update or anything, but everything was up-to-date.

          Then, when I restarted it, same problem.

          Something like this ^ and then, like this when I clicked anywhere:

          I read something from someone who had the same problem with the same laptop model (his screenshot was exactly was I had):

          https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/booting-stops-on-hp-elitebook-g6-1040-after/2d083f84-677e-4022-93ab-6de8f9adc735

          So, I restarted in safe-mode through WinRE, which worked for the first time and uninstalled-reinstalled the GPU drivers.

          But while I was looking for a screenshot that looked like what I had on my daughter’s screen to answer Susan’s question, I came across this:

          https://windowsreport.com/windows-11-lock-screen-spotlight-not-working/

          (this is the link that corresponds to the “Friday November 13” screenshot).

          I sounded like it there was a possible problem with Windows Spotlight. I followed the tutorials, deactivated Sportlight, ran the code in Powershell, did everything and… So far it’s working! I have restarted the laptop several times, turned it off completely, and it seems to be fine now.

          I deactivated Windows Spotlight, replaced with a picture and turned off the two options: Show the lock screen bkground picture… and make the lock screen react…

          I don’t know if I should “play” with the options to see if something happens (curiosity) to pinpoint the problem exactly, but, so far so good.

          The problem seems to be linked to Windows Spotlight: I don’t know if it’s the date, the hour, the region, the language, MS Edge or options in Windows settings, but well, I am glad the laptop is working now. My daughter will be happy and hopefully, my wife won’t hold a grudge against me.

          • #2759555

            I sounded like it there was a possible problem with Windows Spotlight. I followed the tutorials, deactivated Sportlight, ran the code in Powershell, did everything and… So far it’s working! I have restarted the laptop several times, turned it off completely, and it seems to be fine now.

            Good Find! 😁 I have four computers running Win10 upgraded to Win11 and I’ve never come across that problem or even heard of it. The first thing I do on my computers is change the background and lock screens to a blue image.

            blue

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