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    --Joe

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    • #2392747

      Greetings @joep517

      I am successfully running Windows 11 Insider Preview build 22454.1000 (Version Dev) in VMWare Workstation 16 Player (updated successfully from previous Dev versions over several weeks, all of which have worked just fine in my VM).

      When I run Windows PC Health Check (just for kicks!), to my surprise, the result is “This PC doesn’t currently meet Windows 11 system requirement.  This PC must support Secure Boot;  TPM 2.0 must be supported and enabled on this PC”.   (!!!)

      Now, when I run Windows Update (to update to Insider Preview build 22468 (Dev)), the update fails for the same reasons as above (PC doesn’t meet Windows 11 system requirements).  But I am already successfully running Windows 11 on the “VM PC”.

      Any comments?

       

      My Rig: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core CPU; ASUS Cross Hair VIII Formula Mobo; Win 11 Pro (64 bit)-(UEFI-booted); 32GB RAM; 2TB Corsair Force Series MP600 Pro 2TB PCIe Gen 4.0 M.2 NVMe SSD. 1TB SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2 NVME SSD; MSI GeForce RTX 3090 VENTUS 3X 24G OC; Microsoft 365 Home; Condusiv SSDKeeper Professional; Acronis Cyberprotect, VMWare Workstation Pro V17.5. HP 1TB USB SSD External Backup Drive). Dell G-Sync G3223Q 144Hz Monitor.

    • #2393120

      Any comments?

      Microsoft changed insider’s ability to install Windows 11 on unsupported PCs (VM included).

    • #2393250

      @Alex5723:  Thanks.

      However, according to this article (see link below) “The MediaCreationTool wrapper, the work of GitHub developer AveYo, lets you create a special ISO for updating from any version of Windows 10 to Windows 11.

      The open-source tool runs a script that skips the hardware verification steps of the Windows 11 installation process and the dynamic updates feature.

      That enables almost any computer to get the operating system.

      In addition, systems without Trusted Platform Module (TPM) 2.0 can install the OS

      “As of now, the bypass is viable for 22H1 builds,” AveYo said.

      It remains to be seen if it will also work on the official Windows 11 release, which will start rolling out on 5 October 2021”.

      Source of the above:  https://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/416374-new-tool-lets-unsupported-pcs-install-windows-11.html

      I already have Windows 11 installed and running on the VM.  My issue is that I cannot get the latest update installed via Windows Update.  (Weird!!)

      Interestingly however, when I downloaded the latest Windows 11 Dev build ISO and performed an in-place install using it, it worked!

      My Rig: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core CPU; ASUS Cross Hair VIII Formula Mobo; Win 11 Pro (64 bit)-(UEFI-booted); 32GB RAM; 2TB Corsair Force Series MP600 Pro 2TB PCIe Gen 4.0 M.2 NVMe SSD. 1TB SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2 NVME SSD; MSI GeForce RTX 3090 VENTUS 3X 24G OC; Microsoft 365 Home; Condusiv SSDKeeper Professional; Acronis Cyberprotect, VMWare Workstation Pro V17.5. HP 1TB USB SSD External Backup Drive). Dell G-Sync G3223Q 144Hz Monitor.

    • #2393260

      However, according to this article (see link below) “The MediaCreationTool wrapper

      That is hacking not the proper way on installing Windows 11. Don’t forget these hacked PCs won’t get any updates.

      https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/mediacreationtool-bat-download-windows-11-isos-bypass-compatibility/

      https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/easeus-win11builder-bypass-tpm-and-secure-boot/

      • #2393344

        @Alex5723:  Yes, as stated in my quote above “It remains to be seen if it will also work on the official Windows 11 release, which will start rolling out on 5 October 2021″

        I certainly do NOT advocate using the ‘hack”.

        A pity that my issue has still not been answered by anyone in  this forum, though.

         

        My Rig: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core CPU; ASUS Cross Hair VIII Formula Mobo; Win 11 Pro (64 bit)-(UEFI-booted); 32GB RAM; 2TB Corsair Force Series MP600 Pro 2TB PCIe Gen 4.0 M.2 NVMe SSD. 1TB SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2 NVME SSD; MSI GeForce RTX 3090 VENTUS 3X 24G OC; Microsoft 365 Home; Condusiv SSDKeeper Professional; Acronis Cyberprotect, VMWare Workstation Pro V17.5. HP 1TB USB SSD External Backup Drive). Dell G-Sync G3223Q 144Hz Monitor.

    • #2393735

      See the note in Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22458 | Windows Insider Blog under Changes and Improvements. All VMs must now adhere to the same requirements as regular hardware. You may have to change your VM settings.

      --Joe

    • #2393833

      @joep517:  Many thanks.  Noted.  I refer to you link:   (“…Running Windows 11 in VMs in other virtualization products from vendors such as VMware and Oracle will continue to work as long as the hardware requirements are met.”)   My VMWare has been installed on a desktop that does meet Windows 11 requirements.  I have a Windows 11 VM fully up and running in VMWare on that compatible desktop.   When I run Windows Update from within the Windows 11 Dev build, the UPDATE fails due to the (VM) “PC” not being Windows 11 compatible!!  That’s what concerns me.

      However, when I use an ISO of the latest Insider (Dev) build of Windows 11, I AM ABLE to update the existing build of Windows 11 running within the VM.

      Perhaps this is just a passing anomaly of the evolving Windows 11 Dev build?

      My Rig: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core CPU; ASUS Cross Hair VIII Formula Mobo; Win 11 Pro (64 bit)-(UEFI-booted); 32GB RAM; 2TB Corsair Force Series MP600 Pro 2TB PCIe Gen 4.0 M.2 NVMe SSD. 1TB SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2 NVME SSD; MSI GeForce RTX 3090 VENTUS 3X 24G OC; Microsoft 365 Home; Condusiv SSDKeeper Professional; Acronis Cyberprotect, VMWare Workstation Pro V17.5. HP 1TB USB SSD External Backup Drive). Dell G-Sync G3223Q 144Hz Monitor.

    • #2393857

      @petesmst, I understand what had been previously published. Microsoft changed the rules with build 22458. Within VMware there probably are settings to pass along TPM and secure boot that must be enabled to pass along the host settings.

      --Joe

    • #2393901

      @joep517:

      Thanks for the clarification.  I am using VMware Workstation Player, and the current (latest) version has no means of ‘turning on” TPM2.0 or Secure Boot.  Hopefully an update will correct this.  (I assume it is the latest build of  Windows 11 (Dev) that cannot “see” the host PC’s TPM through VMWare, because the previous virtual machine build of Windows 11 Dev still works just fine).

      My Rig: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core CPU; ASUS Cross Hair VIII Formula Mobo; Win 11 Pro (64 bit)-(UEFI-booted); 32GB RAM; 2TB Corsair Force Series MP600 Pro 2TB PCIe Gen 4.0 M.2 NVMe SSD. 1TB SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2 NVME SSD; MSI GeForce RTX 3090 VENTUS 3X 24G OC; Microsoft 365 Home; Condusiv SSDKeeper Professional; Acronis Cyberprotect, VMWare Workstation Pro V17.5. HP 1TB USB SSD External Backup Drive). Dell G-Sync G3223Q 144Hz Monitor.

    • #2393908

      This change started with build 22458 and continues with the subsequent insider builds.

      It is my understanding that you may use an ISO to do a clean install or reinstall and that will allow you to bypass the hardware requirements. I have not tried this. Even if it works now, there is no telling how long it will work.

      --Joe

    • #2394084

      @joep517:

       

      Thanks.  (Since I merely “play” with Dev builds in the VM Workstation Player, it’s not too serious if access to updates eventually ceases.  I use both the Beta and the Dev builds, and so far, Beta builds update in the usual way within VM Workstation Player).

      My Rig: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core CPU; ASUS Cross Hair VIII Formula Mobo; Win 11 Pro (64 bit)-(UEFI-booted); 32GB RAM; 2TB Corsair Force Series MP600 Pro 2TB PCIe Gen 4.0 M.2 NVMe SSD. 1TB SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2 NVME SSD; MSI GeForce RTX 3090 VENTUS 3X 24G OC; Microsoft 365 Home; Condusiv SSDKeeper Professional; Acronis Cyberprotect, VMWare Workstation Pro V17.5. HP 1TB USB SSD External Backup Drive). Dell G-Sync G3223Q 144Hz Monitor.

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