Windows 11 2022 Update (Version 22H2) is out.

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[Alex5723]

Microsoft announcement :

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2022/09/20/available-today-the-windows-11-2022-update/

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grumble grumble it’s now called Windows 11 2022?  gah can we stop renaming stuff?

Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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Alex5723

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Its logical with feature update once a year.

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The Windows 11 2022 update upgrades your version as reported in Settings | About to Windows 11 22H2.

--Joe

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The 22H2 update was offered on my HP laptop, however, it isn’t offered to me on my primary desktop which is an Intel NUC11PHKi7C.  On investigating why it isn’t being offered, the only explanation I can find relates to a compatibility issue between Intel Smart Sound Technology (SST) drivers and Windows 11 that MAY be causing Microsoft to block the update.  Interestingly, Intel SST isn’t present in this computer (to my knowledge and all documentation).

It’s not an issue for me at this point just an observation for users of the Intel NUC products.

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are you absolutely sure about that, AC641?

open Device Manager (devmgmt.msc) and expand the Sound, video & game controllers section

I checked the Intel NUC11PHKi7C drivers section on the Intel web site and the Realtek audio driver version 6.0.9285.1 package does bundle the Intel SST audio bus driver v10.29.00.6367 (much newer than the problematic versions mentioned by Microsoft) which is fully Win11 compatible

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AC641 wrote:

HP laptop, however, it isn’t offered to me on my primary desktop

Why not run the free portable app ‘whynotwin11’ ? or Microsoft’s own tool ?
Microsoft also blocked Win 11 to some printer drivers

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Alex5723 wrote:

AC641 wrote:

HP laptop, however, it isn’t offered to me on my primary desktop

Why not run the free portable app ‘whynotwin11’ ? or Microsoft’s own tool ?
Microsoft also blocked Win 11 to some printer drivers

I’m already running Windows 11 21H2 and the Microsoft Health Check tool throws up no issues.

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AC641 wrote:

Alex5723 wrote:

AC641 wrote:

HP laptop, however, it isn’t offered to me on my primary desktop

Why not run the free portable app ‘whynotwin11’ ? or Microsoft’s own tool ?
Microsoft also blocked Win 11 to some printer drivers

I’m already running Windows 11 21H2 and the Microsoft Health Check tool throws up no issues.

The block is for Windows 11 22H2.

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Alex5723 wrote:

The block is for Windows 11 22H2.

But WhyNotWin11 isn’t.

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Alex5723 wrote:

AC641 wrote:

Alex5723 wrote:

AC641 wrote:

HP laptop, however, it isn’t offered to me on my primary desktop

Why not run the free portable app ‘whynotwin11’ ? or Microsoft’s own tool ?
Microsoft also blocked Win 11 to some printer drivers

I’m already running Windows 11 21H2 and the Microsoft Health Check tool throws up no issues.

The block is for Windows 11 22H2.

We know this.  I was pointing out to you that the tools you mentioned are not designed to tell you whether there’s an incompatibility between a system and Windows 11 22H2; they’re designed to tell you if your system is compatible, primarily from a hardware perspective, with Windows 11 – full stop.  What I stated is that I have been running Windows 11 Pro without issue since April when I built this Intel NUC.

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To check if your computer is compatible with Windows 11 22H2, you have to use the Windows Registry. Here’s how:

1. Press Windows key + R to bring up a Run dialog.
2. Type regedit and press Enter.
3. In the Registry Editor window, head to Computer > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE > SOFTWARE > Microsoft > Windows NT > CurrentVersion > AppCompatFlags > TargetVersionUpgradeExperienceIndicators > NI22H2.
4. In the right pane, locate and open the RedReason key.
5. Check the value. If the displayed value is NONE, your device can run Windows 11 22H2. For any other value, you can’t update to the 22H2 version.

My Intel NUC11PHKi7C shows ‘None’ indicating it’s compatible which ties in with others with the same NUC unit on the Intel forums who have been offered and installed the 22H2 update.

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Hmm I have ‘None’ in RedReason but I am not being offered the update.

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AC641 wrote:

RedReason key

How does Microsoft (sneakily) update the key with new blocks like the recent printers and Intel SST audio drivers blocks ?

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What’s sneaky about it? Isn’t Windows Update expected to make lots of changes to everyone’s registry?

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b wrote:

Isn’t Windows Update expected to make lots of changes to everyone’s registry?

Windows update runs on patch Tuesdays. How does Microsoft update new blocks like those from last week ? Sneakily ?

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Alex5723 wrote:

b wrote:

Isn’t Windows Update expected to make lots of changes to everyone’s registry?

Windows update runs on patch Tuesdays. How does Microsoft update new blocks like those from last week ? Sneakily ?

Rubbish!  Windows Update runs throughout the month with security releases published on the second Tuesday of the month, known as ‘Patch Tuesdays;’ and as ‘B’ releases.  However, other releases: ‘C’ and ‘D’ are released during the third and fourth weeks of the month.  If you check Windows Update (without clicking ‘Check for Updates’) through the month, you’ll see that the system checks frequently – you can see the last date and time checked right under the ‘You’re Up to date’ message, if indeed you are.

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AC641 wrote:

Rubbish!

AC641 wrote:

If you check Windows Update (without clicking ‘Check for Updates’) through the month, you’ll see that the system checks frequently – you can see the last date and time checked right under the ‘You’re Up to date’ message, if indeed you are.

So, Microsoft will sneakily hack the registry during those frequent update checks without notifications to users ?

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Alex5723 wrote:

So, Microsoft will sneakily hack the registry during those frequent update checks without notifications to users ?

Why does this surprise you.

It’s no different that the recent Spotify installs that came thru the MS Store or the Known Issue Rollbacks they issue to fix problems caused by part of an update that all happen “without” user interaction/notification.

If you read the license agreement for Windows, you’ll find you agreed they can make whatever changes they want whenever they want to “their” S/W.

So yes, they can “sneak” a modification onto your PC at any time if it’s connected to the internet and the license agreement doesn’t require they notify you of the change.

BTW, since you “agreed” to allow Microsoft to make them, they aren’t “hacks” but, according to Microsoft, improvements to the OS.

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Just another Forum Poster wrote:

If you read the license agreement for Windows, you’ll find you agreed they can make whatever changes they want whenever they want to “their” S/W.

There is nothing in Microsoft agreement for Windows that even remotely gives Microsoft remote access rights or changes rights to Windows OS.

If there is, I don’t recall reading it.

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Cybertooth

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I’m not normally one for personal comments on public forums, however; Alex, your comments in this thread alone show that you really don’t understand how Windows works or the licence agreements.  Microsoft makes changes to the registry frequently and not only when new updates are installed.

As far as the licence agreement is concerned, HERE’S a link to the Windows 11 license agreement from June 2021.  I’ll point you to item number 6.

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“The software periodically checks for system and app updates, and downloads and installs them for you.”

I have set my Windows 10 Pro to notify=2 and don’t download nor install any update.

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Cybertooth

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To quote item 6 in its entirety rather than the bit you chose to try to make an invalid point:

‘The software periodically checks for system and app updates, and downloads and installs them for you. You may obtain updates only from Microsoft or authorized sources, and Microsoft may need to update your system to provide you with those updates. By accepting this agreement or using the software, you agree to receive these types of automatic updates without any additional notice.’

You trust Microsoft with its baseline Windows 10 product but don’t trust it enough to download updates; an odd approach but your choice.

Moderator note: Prlease refrain from personal attacks and name-calling.

 

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I was hoping for a comment regarding my having ‘None’ in RedReason in the registry but still not being offered 22H2.

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rc primak

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AC641 wrote:

You trust Microsoft with its baseline Windows 10 product but don’t trust it enough to download updates

Exactly. I don’t trust Microsoft to hack my PC whenever it wants without prior notification and the choice to block such installations.

I use WUmgr and control my updates.

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https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/status-windows-11-22h2

Current status as of October 4, 2022 (PT)

We are entering a new phase of the rollout for Windows 11, version 22H2 and we are increasing its availability to all who check for updates on eligible Windows devices. Note that, if we detect that your device might have an issue, such as an application incompatibility, we might put a safeguard hold in place and not offer the update until that issue is resolved. Information regarding safeguard holds is available below on this page.

Users who are interested in experiencing the latest feature update can choose to do so by opening Windows Update Settings and selecting Check for updates. If your device is ready, you will see the option to Download and install…

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After all that I was offered it this morning via Windows Update.

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rc primak

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No joy for me with my Intel NUC11PAKi5, very similar to the 11th Gen NUC corei7 mentioned earlier in this thread.

All indicators are that my SST driver has been fully updated.

Registry values are NONE for hardware blocks for Win 11 22H2.

Intel Drivers and Support Assistant says all SST and Realtek sound drivers are the latest. Even the BIOS was recently updated.

Still Microsoft Update has a block on 22H2, and MCT runs to 71 or 72% and exits with the so-helpful message that “Your hardware is not compatible with this update.”

Last downloaded and tried Oct. 5 or 6, 2022.

Someone at Microsoft is being overcautious, unless there is some new issue showing up.

Well, we have almost a year to get this sorted out…sigh.

BTW, this same Intel SST driver was blocking the original Windows 11 from upgrading Windows 10 Intel NUC-PCs with 11th Gen processors (and possibly others)  in 2021. So it is nothing new. It also prevented some of these systems from getting the Windows 10 21H2 update.

Bottom line is, for now my system can’t install the 22H2 update and Microsoft and Intel between them are not offering any satisfying reason why not.

-- rc primak

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Let me add one thing about the Intel NUC-PCs. They have a notoriously short support life cycle. I bought mine a year and a half ago, and it’s already listed by intel and SimplyNUC as no longer supported. I do however continue to get updated drivers and BIOS updates through the Intel Drivers and Support Assistant tool.

SimplyNUC did offer to “repair” my NUC when it died recently. But since it was only the OEM SSD which failed, I only sent that in to them for a replacement. So they are honoring their warranties, even if Intel has discontinued the Panther Canyon line of NUCs.

Still, that’s one heck of a short product life cycle!

-- rc primak

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Still Microsoft Update has a block on 22H2, and MCT runs to 71 or 72% and exits with the so-helpful message that “Your hardware is not compatible with this update.”

Run the script ‘FU.WhyAmIBlocked‘

The latest blocks are due to printer drivers : Microsoft IPP Class Driver or Universal Print Class Driver.

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rc primak

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The latest blocks are due to printer drivers : Microsoft IPP Class Driver or Universal Print Class Driver.

What is the exact source of information for your allegation quoted above? Links to the information used would be especially helpful.

For those running a Pro or Enterprise version of Windows 10 or 11, there is a way using Group Policy to bypass/ignore Microsoft’s blocks for Feature Updates. Usually, however, Microsoft has good reason to implement a block, so bypassing or ignoring it can possibly be very detrimental to a machine that’s experiencing a Feature Update block.

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rc primak

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Windows 11 22H2 blocked on some systems due to printer issues

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-22h2-blocked-on-some-systems-due-to-printer-issues/ 

These printer driver issues affect the operations of some printers, but do not cause the kind of system instability which results in Blue Screens of Death. It would be safe (though not recommended) to upgrade a system if we are SURE this is the sole cause of the block.

Personally, I am not in such a hurry for the latest Windows “features” as to run any risk of system instability or printer malfunctions.

-- rc primak

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Bob99

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Thanks for the link to reliable info! 

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Me personally the other day in this very venue.  I hit it on my Surface device.

Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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Not necessarily due to printer drivers, but this may be one thing which just changed, making me eligible for the 22H2 Feature Update. I did nothing to change my printer configuration myself.

And I would definitely NOT recommend bypassing the block on Intel 11th-Gen PCs and laptops, due to the severity of the consequences if we guess wrong. (Blue Screens are no fun to recover from.)

Update from my Intel NUC-PC (Panther Canyon, 11th-Gen Core-i5):

Well, this may have nothing to do with it, but I ran the Storage Settings and removed the Temp Files except for the Old Windows Installation and Downloads files.

Then Microsoft Update still had no offering for the 22H2 Feature Update. But when I ran the Update Assistant this time, it went through the same routines as before, but succeeded in finding some sort of new update. (Could be printer drivers, for all I know.)  Then the process proceeded and completed.

So far, no Blue Screens, and no noticeable damages in anyone’s files or applications or apps. I ran through the usual resets of privacy and general annoyances, and froze the upgrade version at the 22H2 Feature Update. (Following all the suggestions from all us folks at AskWoody Forums.)

All looks good. Time to clean it all up and run Macrium Reflect again. So to Microsoft, it’s another year or so of “so long and thanks for all the fish”.

 

-- rc primak

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Alex5723

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fyi

‘fu.why am I blocked’ stands for feature update and it’s a tool to determine why there’s a block on your system to getting the most recent feature release.  In case anyone else is wondering about that link.

(My brain has to translate that from ….. well you can guess … to feature update every time.  Reminds me of the story that supposedly the school called the Sam Houston Institute of Technology, that when the freshman started wearing sweatshirts with the initials on them, the administration decided to change the name of the school.)

Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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I am getting an error when trying to run to Get-FUBlocks:

WARNING: The term ‘ConvertFrom-FUBinToXML’ is not recognized as the name of a cmdlet, function, script file, or operable program. Check the spelling of the name, or if a path was included, verify that the path is correct and try again.
ConvertFrom-FUBinToXML : The term ‘ConvertFrom-FUBinToXML’ is not recognized as the name of a cmdlet, function, script file, or operable program. Check the spelling of the name, or if a path was included, verify that the path is
correct and try again.
At C:\Users\Mike\Documents\WindowsPowerShell\Modules\FU.WhyAmIBlocked\1.0.0.9\Public\Get-FUBlocks.ps1:166 char:13
+ ConvertFrom-FUBinToXML -FileList $BinFiles -OutputPath $XMLPath
+ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+ CategoryInfo : ObjectNotFound: (ConvertFrom-FUBinToXML:String) [], ParentContainsErrorRecordException
+ FullyQualifiedErrorId : CommandNotFoundException

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