Windows 10X coming to a laptop near you – some day

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It’s official. Windows honcho Panos Panay just posted an update to Microsoft’s gameplan for Windows 10X, the Chromebook challenger due later this year
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woody wrote:

It’s official. Windows honcho Panos Panay just posted an update to Microsoft’s gameplan for Windows 10X, the Chromebook challenger due later this year
[See the full post at: Windows 10X coming to a laptop near you – some day]

Windows 10X will turn out as the old Windows Starter did.

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Yawn. more ‘stuff’ I neither use nor want.  If MS could make what they already have more efficient and user friendly and stop adding ‘stuff’ just for the sake of adding more in place of real improvements.  My humble suggestion – a simple and easier update system.

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It would be nice if we could get an operating system that challenges ChromeOS for stability and ease of use, but still runs Windows programs.

That statement caught my eye.  Although I’ve never used (and intend never to use) ChromeOS, there are those of us who do have an operating system that is stable, easy to use, and runs Windows programs.  It’s called Windows 10.  As I’ve said a number of times, I have 5 installations in various trim, and none has ever blue-screened, crashed, frozen, interrupted my work with an update in progress, or any issues of such ilk.  Driver updates are banned via Group Policy but other than that, Windows Update is on automatic, no delays.

And I must also say that those of us who don’t have such problems are more than likely in the majority, otherwise Windows 10 would have followed the path of Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 (neither of which gained the market share Microsoft sought), and would have been replaced with a re-purposed, re-branded version of Windows.

In terms of market share, Windows 10 caught up with Windows 7 by the end of 2017 and surpassed it.  Somehow I don’t think that happened because Windows 10 was/is universally hated and despised.  Nor do I think that 100’s of people having issues with Windows updates is comparable to 100’s of millions of people having no noticeable issues.

Granted, updates and update issues can be a headache for businesses large and small, but I don’t think ~one billion installations are all on business-owned machines.  Walmart sells PC’s and laptops.  I don’t know how many they sell, but it’s enough that they keep a couple of display aisles replenished day in, day out, year in, year out.

Personally I was saddened when Microsoft abandoned the mobile phone market.  I still use a Microsoft Lumia 950, and I have a new spare still boxed for a replacement when my daily driver eventually fails.  If Windows 10X shows up on a phone sometime in the future, I’ll definitely be interested.

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And just the same as any negative report has no effect on your positive experience; unending reports of success are of no help to a Win10 user who does happen to be staring at a failed system. These 100’s (by your count) are not assisted by the hundreds-millions that notice nothing. There are people who think differently. Some of them appreciate the Chrome experience.

If the Chrome experience has zero value, why would Microsoft be expending resources to compete on Google’s turf? As Microsoft is wise, they must see value there.

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These 100’s (by your count) are not assisted by the hundreds-millions that notice nothing.

They can certainly be assisted here at AskWoody, by describing their system, their problem(s), and asking for help.

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Some of them appreciate the Chrome experience.

I’m neither discounting their experience, nor disparaging them.  All I’m saying is that there are those of us who do have an operating system that is stable, easy to use, and runs Windows programs.  I appreciate this experience, as do others.  To infer that such a stable and reliable OS does not exist outside of the ChromeOS experience is a bit disingenuous, isn’t it?

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

We were all once "Average Users".

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IMHO this is a “placeholder product” designed to create FUD in the Chromebook market and either halt or slow down their sales. Whether it ever makes it to market or, if it does, becomes successful remains to be seen and isn’t actually important to the “planners” at Microsoft. It just needs to halt the advance of Chromebooks. It’s not the first time, nor will it be the last time, Microsoft has used these tactics against a rising competitor.

Until it meets the two criteria of availability and success, it should not be a consideration for anyone looking to currently purchase Chromebook products.

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Hey Y’all,

My experience is like bbearren’s. I have 2 Desktops and 2 Laptops running Win10 1909 and one old Laptop running the latest Insider edition. I’ve had nary a peep out of any of them as far as BSODs are concerned. I’ve had a few minor glitched due mostly to changes in technology/security but I’ve always been able to find fixes or workarounds. IMHO W10 is the most stable micro computer operating system I’ve used and I go back to TRS-DOS and CP/M.

Linux may be more stable but it certainly isn’t as easy to use.
I can’t speak for Apple since I’ve never used it.

HTH

May the Forces of good computing be with you!

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I fully predict this will go the way of Windows Phone (which just started to be excellent when Microsoft killed it), Microsoft Fitness, Microsoft OneNote (non-UWP), and Cortana.

I have trouble believing they’ll manage to make it work the way people want/need, and after Microsoft Surface, I won’t trust hardware made by Microsoft for the purpose; it would need adoption by Dell/HP/Lenovo, with solid construction for schools, and the kind of centralized user management and control IT admins have come to expect from a Chromebook domain.

Microsoft’s greatest problem in the past few years is that Microsoft has tried to be Google when they should try to be themselves.  Go back to the drawing board and innovate new things rather than copying what made someone else successful.

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LoneWolf wrote:

I fully predict this will go the way of Windows Phone (which just started to be excellent when Microsoft killed it), Microsoft Fitness, Microsoft OneNote (non-UWP), and Cortana.

The demise of non-UWP OneNote had been greatly exaggerated (by Microsoft):

Starting in March 2020, when you install Office 365 or Office 2019, the OneNote desktop app will be installed alongside the Word, PowerPoint, and Excel desktop apps.
What’s the difference between OneNote and OneNote 2016?

The decision to no longer develop features for the desktop version, however, was reversed as the app started receiving features late last year.
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Interestingly, the nomenclature for the desktop version seems to have ditched the year branding, as the app is now called ‘OneNote’. The naming is in line with other Office 365 apps. This also could be why the UWP version of OneNote was recently officially renamed to ‘OneNote for Windows 10’.
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The firm extended mainstream support for OneNote 2016 (now called OneNote) till October 23, 2020, with extended support ending on October 14, 2025. These dates align with Office 2019 support timeline
OneNote 2016 starts being offered automatically with Office 365 installs

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Correct me if I am mistaken, but the reason why there is another Windows 10 called X – should we read it like windows ten ten? – is that this is for ARM architecture, right?

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Nope and nope. It’s “ten x” (as in my T-shirt size – not really) and it’s apparently for both Intel and ARM.

‘Course we haven’t seen it yet, so nobody knows for sure.

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hey woody.

check out these recent news about “Windows 10X” from ZDNet and Paul Thurrott’s web site:

https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-plans-for-single-screen-windows-10x-rollout-in-spring-2021-dual-screen-in-spring-2022/

https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10x/238014/windows-10x-delayed-to-2021-loses-win32-support

also, both are reporting that after the release of “ten X”, MS could switch to a “one feature update per year” pace for Win10 in 2021.

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