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Win10 Home is no longer letting you setup an offline account on install if you connect to the Internet during setup regardless of build. You are forced to create a Microsoft Account & then you have to create a local account later & remove the Microsoft Account.
We’ve discovered that if you enter a bogus phone number in account screen, on the next screen you will see the offline account option.
Randy & Deanna
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Wow that is fantastic news for me.
In June I set up a brand new Lenovo IdeaPad S340-15IWL Windows 10 Home where I volunteer at our Senior Center.
Although I wanted to create the primary account as an offline account, I was forced to create a Microsoft account.
— I thought I had missed the page in which I could have selected Offline account and that isn’t likely for me to miss that option.
Afterward I tried researching what happened and wasn’t able to find out that the option to create an offline account up-front isn’t available during an install.
— I shouldn’t have been surprised though as too many times such researches don’t even address the issue at hand.
If the owner of that brand new Lenovo IdeaPad S340-15IWL Windows 10 Home is willing to let me remove the Microsoft account, is there a tutorial on how to do that safely?
EDIT: It just dawned on me I should explain why I’m asking that question since removing an account is easy enough to do. However my concern is that does removing a primary account make a difference?
HP EliteBook 8540w laptop Windows 10 Pro (x64)
If it’s brand new, there probably isn’t much data on it.
Back it up (image just in case) and a separate data backup.
Do a Factory Restore offline and start over.
If the owner of that brand new Lenovo IdeaPad S340-15IWL Windows 10 Home is willing to let me remove the Microsoft account, is there a tutorial on how to do that safely?
How to Switch to a Local Account from a Microsoft Account in Windows 10
However my concern is that does removing a primary account make a difference?
All new/clean installs of Windows should have at least one User with Administrative Rights [first one created during setup usually is] then other Users can be the same or Standard users that can’t make as many changes. There is also the hidden Administrator that has the most rights and shouldn’t be routinely active, activate for a purpose then immediately deactivate when done.
Hi there I would like to contribute to this topic. If you disconnect the internet connection while trying to setup the online account you get the offline account, too.
Same for these that do not trust Hello pin. I admit I use it because MS says it should be more secure as it is only locally saved and secured against changes with your online account and (if set) MFA.
However recently my Business account password expired (AD hybrid) and the PIN still let me logon to my W10 enterprise (Azure AD joined only).
After this event I am not so sure if this is really safer, as with the PIN I still had access to all “offline” files on the device. I wonder if this would even work if my on-prem account was locked out
One little note (since this is for Windows Home I’ll assume you’re not corporate; I would NOT do this for corporate networks)…
It has been noted that OEM Windows 7 keys will work just fine to license a system you install Windows 10 on (provided that key has not been used to activate a Windows 10 install on other hardware). It is very likely one can find a Windows 7 Pro OEM COA from a system being discarded and feature upgrade a Windows 10 Home system to Pro, which works just as well as the full licensing. I would consider ripping the COA from the discarded system if you use this process.
As others have said, disconnecting the network cable from a system during a Windows 10 Home install will allow the old user-creation method. Best to install with no network connection and do any updates needed after the install.
(Obligatory: I would definitely not suggest you fill out form 43C or go to Department Y located on the 23rd floor…*Yells* “Yes maa’m, I understand you’re upset!!!” –The Incredibles)
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