Windows 10 beta build 14328 – here comes the future of Windows

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There’s much to like, a whole lot to quibble about, and more than a few problems with the latest and greatest beta version of Windows. What I want to
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SettingsPrivacySpeeech, inking & typing – turn Cortana off.

Click on the search box on the taskbak, choose setting cog. Turn off online search (that’s CortanaBING).
Click on info about Cortana (FAQs). To quote MS:

“When I use Cortana, what information is collected and where is it saved?
How do I turn Cortana off?

To turn Cortana off, go to Cortana > Notebook > Settings, and then turn the Cortana setting off. When you turn Cortana off on a device, she won’t give you suggestions, reminders, alerts, or ideas when you’re using that device.

Turning off Cortana clears the interests and information on your device, but won’t clear the information that’s saved on the Notebook or in the Bing.com dashboard.
Why is Cortana still running even after I turn Cortana off?

When Cortana is off, you may still see the name “Cortana” on some related apps and tasks in Windows 10. Rest assured that if Cortana is turned off in Cortana > Notebook > Settings, Cortana is actually turned off, and Windows 10 will not collect any Cortana-related information from the device.”

But I really think search in Win10 IS Cortana/BING and you really can’t get away from what MS collects.

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Woody, thank you for the review on InfoWorld.
Just out of curiosity, what is the meaning of “How to turn off Cortana”? Is it about uninstalling with PowerShell which breaks Search and I think the Start Menu as well or a GUI action which turns off only the most obvious use of Cortana?
Do we have any word about the RTM date for the server version of Windows 10 which is Windows Server 2016? At the moment Windows Server 2016 TP4 runs in parallel with Windows 10 1511 in regards to patching, they have the same updates so they are somehow equivalent builds, although the server is still in beta while Windows 10 is not (or maybe it still is, unofficially?) 🙂
I will have to go through the list of new features and to get familiar with the new build, thanks again for pointing this out.

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I’m looking for a simple way to turn Cortana off, as in the setting in build 1511. I’m sure that doesn’t decimate Cortana, but it takes her out of the way on the desktop.

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Moreover, in build 14328, there IS NO Cortana > Notebook > Settings.

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Turn off the microphone so “she” can’t hear you!!!
LOL

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Good article, although a bit more optimistic, than I believe is deserved.

Maybe it is just me, but I see one step forward in Win 10 always has 3 steps back.

1. The data accumulation is still there and now it is harder to disable Cortana (which is even moving to listening) unless you turn off or disable the microphone.

2. The start menu is still not a viable, customizable start menu that allows MY frequent choices to have first level or desktop access, but remains a billboard for ads and there still are the hideous Metro tiles.

3. The privacy aspects are still too loosey-goosey (and actually invasive) for me.

4. (Oops, more than 3…, there is still no native interface for user/PC owner control over updating.

I see my next OS build, but it is looking more and more like Linux Mint or Ubuntu. My main connection to the MS OS universe is gaming and the ability to have a hard drive based Outlook with its unified PST file. I do not want to share ANY info unless I have to make a conscious effort. For gaming, depending on how the SteamOS and Linux gaming go will determine if I even keep a legacy Win7 machine, as the finger in the dike to prevent GWX is getting old.

As a desktop user with a large monitor, I want to sue my machine for image and video editing, writing with 2 full pages showing and prefer a mouse rather than touch and a REAL keyboard with real (not virtual) pressable keys. I will never have a Win10 tablet or phone as there are better solutions for those uses.

Now if MS were to offer a paid (not a subscription) version with the ability to choose a customizable, robust, Win7 style start menus (sans Metro blocks) that allows complete control over privacy, “sharing,” unwanted ads, and updating, I would gladly buy it outright. I may sound like a “settler” like the TV commercial, but the right tool for the right job. Now off I go in the horse and buggy once I find the buggy whip.

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http://www.askvg.com/tip-disable-cortana-and-bing-search-results-in-windows-10/

Home users need to use method 5. Pro users can still use method 4. Just reboot after applying either setting.

Check out this concept on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/4g5my5/windows_10_start_menu_concept_design_attempting/

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Yep, those are for the search part of Cortana. But what about the rest of it?

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Go into the settings option for search in the taskbar. I’ve got the option to disable web results etc.

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I don’t see why people think that expunging Cortana from the system is a Bad Thing.

I have never craved talking to my computer, and (psst, don’t look now) searching for things is already covered. I don’t know about you, but I sure didn’t need another inexact “let me see if I can find something interesting for you to do” app masquerading as a search.

Would you EVER consider “Hey Cortana, help me find all my tax records for the audit”?

I didn’t think so.

Digital systems can approach perfection. They don’t need to be built on purpose to be persnickety things that might – or might not – work.

I’m sure not interested in the slightest in toeing a line because Microsoft is paying big bucks to try to make it seem “socially normal” to do.

-Noel

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Few days ago there was a discussion about the default state of the file extensions which are hidden by default in Windows out of the box. Same for other hidden information by default like hidden and system files etc.
In the Windows 10 build 14328, under Update and security/For developers there are settings for those areas and other similar settings. As we know most power users enable those settings when starting to use the Operating System. The settings are still done in 2 places, under the traditional Folder Options in Windows Explorer and now under the new Settings (Immersive Control Panel). Not sure yet how the 2 areas interact, still need to do further testing.

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It’d be interesting to find out!

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Check out the following articles that I read recently:

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/microsoft-finally-cleaning-windows-10-195057029.html

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-10-microsoft-unveils-new-look-for-the-start-menu/

http://www.zdnet.com/article/when-windows-10-breaks-dont-just-blame-microsoft/

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Hey Woody,

I’m not sure if you heard about this but I read M$ is restricting the use of third-party search engines when using Cortana. They claim that the third-party search engines screws up the process of searching with Cortana.

http://www.ghacks.net/2016/04/29/microsoft-blocks-search-engines-windows-10/

What’s your take on this?

If you already knew about this or wrote about it before, then sorry for repeating information.

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Yep, I’ve been mulling that one over. May get something out this morning.

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It’s out in the open now. We were right. Cortana is BING is Cortana is BING. And there is no way to shut it off. According to what I’ve read, if you search using the search “space” in the taskbar or use Cortana, the search uses BING and by default shows web search in Edge (no matter your default browser).

Microsoft says it can’t operate without “consistent results” (Ahem, monopoly).

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Post coming up on InfoWorld as soon as it’s copyedited….

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