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    Microsoft has just posted that Windows 10 22H2 is now out for “seekers” who manually “check for updates”  Remember if you want to stay at a certain fe
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    Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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    • #2489809

      I think this is the (Windows 11) moment you’ve been waiting for:

      https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/october-18-2022-kb5019509-os-build-22621-675-out-of-band-4fdf3458-148a-46bd-b163-ecb93c282726

      It just showed in the WUMgr queue. I think I’ll hide it.

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      • #2489836

        We’re calling this an “out of band”?

        Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

        • #2489845

          We’re calling this an “out of band”?

          Looks more like “rent to own”.

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      • #2489935

        The worrying thing is that this Moments update apparently contains a Service Stack Update, so it looks like it may be mandatory to install to continue getting updates. Oh Microsoft, have you learned nothing?

        No matter where you go, there you are.

      • #2489948

        Calling it “out of band” is out of logic
        the update was available to Release Preview channel since past tuesday, and the update is not related to that “SEC_E_ILLEGAL_MESSAGE” error

    • #2489838

      By Susan Bradley

      We anticipate an uneventful release of Windows 10 22H2 later in the month.

      ah yeah, released just after a W10 OoB update..strange

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    • #2489927

      Just checked WuMgr, it was there, I Macrium imaged the SSD, installed it, it took about 2 minutes plus a reboot. I find it tough to believe they actually changed anything other than the label 😉

      Edition Windows 10 Pro
      Version 22H2
      Installed on ‎Thu ‎10-‎06-‎2022
      OS build 19045.2130
      Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.4180.0

      Edit: I do need to remember to grab the iso. At the moment I have taken ubuntu/Mint out of the boot order in the BIOS so only running 10.

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    • #2489915

      Upgraded this morning doing check for updates…so far so good.

      ISO downloads have been snail-slow all day.

       

    • #2489961

      Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 accidentally get the upgrade (Enablement Package) to version 22H2, which is not applicable and won’t install (stuck loop)

      gv0JAuc

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    • #2490021

      Updated Windows 10 Pro 21H2 to 22H2 using WUmgr.

      All is well.

      winver 19045.2130

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    • #2490039

      New! It enhances File Explorer. It now includes tabs to help you organize your File Explorer sessions

      Sigh. Is there a way to turn it off?

      I’d be running “Microsoft Tabs” if I wanted tabs.

      -Noel

    • #2490040

      Microsoft has just posted that Windows 10 22H2 is now out for “seekers” who manually “check for updates”

      I say BEWARE of this. I wanted to get it done early because I am going to be really busy for awhile.

      My comments on my experience:

      https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/22h2-for-windows-10-completely-underwhelmed/#post-2490033

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    • #2490061

      That was a painless experience from W10 21H2 to 22H2 🙂

      All that I done was to change GP settings before seeking:
      WUfB resetting all within to ‘not configured’
      Restarted the system then using WUMgr offered the ‘creature update’ and installed, simple!
      2 systems now at 22H2. No issues

      WUfB GP settings now as they were reflecting TRV 22H2 and SAC notify at 2

      22H2winver

      Edit: Did notice that Microsoft Defender threw a wobbly post installation which seemed to be attributed to O&OShutup 10++ v1.9.1431 settings.

      Edit2: As I suspected, there’s an update for O&OShutup 10++

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    • #2490074

      Had a punt at W10 22H2 32-Bit on a legacy laptop. Very quick install. Appears to be behaving itself.

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    • #2490148

      RDP to my NAS, checked for updates, Windows 10 22H2 was ready for download and install.  Clicked the button, and the entire process took less than five minutes.

      Now running Windows 10 Pro Version 22H2 (OS Build 19045.2130).  No hiccups.

      Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
      We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
      We were all once "Average Users".

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    • #2490174

      Note that if you had Windows 10 21H2, and used the optional Windows update (as opposed to an ISO upgrade), the upgrade to 22H2 takes very little time. This leads me to believe the upgrade is very incremental unless you are several feature releases behind.

      I’m testing with an ISO upgrade right now on one system. That is taking far longer. It appears to be going over the entire OS.

      I have the target version set to 21H2 on all of the systems I manage, so they shouldn’t upgrade until it’s time. That said, I think it will be fairly quickly based on my above thoughts, unless there’s a show-stopper bug in the next 72 hours.

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      We walk in the wiring closets no others will enter.
      We stand on the bridge, and no malware may pass.
      We engage in support, we do not retreat.
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      We die for the LAN.

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    • #2490175

      Just like 20H2, 21H1 and 21H2, the update to 22H2 is via an “enablement package” (KB5015684) that simply turns on already existing features of the previous version which is why it’s so fast and only requires a single reboot.

      KB5015684: Featured update to Windows 10, version 22H2 by using an enablement package

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    • #2490186

      Just like 20H2, 21H1 and 21H2, the update to 22H2 is via an “enablement package

      On my Windows 10 Pro (Intel i7, 32GB RAM) the “enablement package” update to 22H2 took 3x time than previous “enablement packages”, about 10Min with A/V disabled.

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    • #2490619

      Guinea Pig Update

      2022-10 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems KB5019509

      Downloaded and installed via WUMgr without error.
      Rebooted without error.

      Version and build after update: Win11Pro 22H2.22621.675 x64

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    • #2490620

      Does somebody want to explain the new term “enablement package”? Precisely what behavior are we enabling?

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      • #2490665

        The “features” for the new version of Windows (in this case Win10 22H2) already exist in the previous version (in this case Win10 2004 — 21H2) but they’re disabled.

        An enablement package does exactly what the name implies, it “enables” the already existing features that Microsoft has now approved for use as a new version of Windows.

        Because all the new features are already in place, enablement packages are very small (the 22H2 Enablement Package is only 177 KB) and it can update an older OS to the new version very quickly (typically 5 mins or less with a single reboot.)

        If you go the ISO route instead, it takes significantly longer because it replaces the entire OS with the new version, while also making a back-up copy of the old version so you can do the “revert it within 10 days” thing if you don’t like the changes it makes, instead of simply enabling the disabled features.

        BTW, it’s quite possible, maybe even likely, that Win10 22H2 already includes some features Microsoft intends to make available for the next version of Win10 that are currently disabled because they haven’t been fully tested/approved yet.

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        • #2490669

          What are the features of Win10 22H2 itself? did they announce any? 😀

          and no, any new features for new version exist only if the LCU support it

          i.e. v22H2 support was added with KB5014666 (19041.1806), and made public with KB5015878 (19041.1865)

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          • #2490676

            Subsystem updates to hello for business, wifi blah, blah, bah..
            Microsoft themselves haven’t divulged any formal info on what’s new in W10 22H2. At least, “it’s the best version ever!” /Barf

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          • #2490702

            The short form appears to be that updates are being churned for the sake of churning updates: circular updates.

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          • #2490727

            I only found four (or was it 5?) group policy changes.  There’s not much.  IMHO this is a lifecycle feature update meaning that it just extends the lifespan.

            Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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          • #2491002

            Ah, so the 22H2 stuff I originally read was for Win 11. Good, I haven’t allowed that yet and won’t soon.

            On to put Win 10 22H2 into a VM to see what it does… Sigh. I remember when I used to look forward to the new releases.

            -Noel

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    • #2490690

      I have an old system that was running Win 10 Pro and I turned it on for the first time in quite a while today.  I did already have the Group Policy Product Version set for Windows 10 and the Target Version was set to 22H2.  I didn’t have to even check for updates before Windows Update started to download the 22H2 update.

      I didn’t even bother to try to stop the upgrade since I just use this system as a canary in the Microsoft coal mine.

      The system is old enough that its CPU is too old for Windows 11 so I shouldn’t have to ever worry about getting asked to install anything other than Windows 10 updates.

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    • #2490712

      For you WSUS admins beware.  The Feature Update to Windows 10 22H2 was/is available for WSUS administrators.

      My Admin accidentally enabled / assigned this and my computer downloaded and installed the enablement package.  This inspite of having a policy via Registry entries for to lock the machine to Windows 10 21H2.

      HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\TargetReleaseVersionInfo=21H2

      HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\ProductVersion=Windows 10

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      • #2490725

        WSUS will take precedent.  The reg keys are just for Windows update.

        Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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    • #2490798

      Some more information about Win 10 22H2 can be found here:
      Pureinfotech – Windows 10 22H2: Everything You Need To Know
      by Mauro Huc – October 18, 2022
      “Windows 10 22H2 (2022 Update) is available starting October 18 as a free update for compatible devices. This is the 13th feature update that only introduces small improvements since the operating system is now in maintenance mode until the end of support. Since version 22H2 is based on the same core system files available on versions 21H2, 21H1, and 20H2, computers running the last three versions will receive the new update as a small enablement package…”
      Also from the Pureinfotech website there are many links about 22H2:
      https://pureinfotech.com/tag/windows-10-22h2/
      The article Published on August 18, 2022 titled:
      Windows 10 22H2 New Features and Changes –
      Here’s everything there’s to know about Windows 10 22H2 thus far.
      There is a fairly long list of “new features, fixes, and improvements coming” that are mostly fixes, not very many noticeable “Features”, but this webpage is worth a visit for general information that Mauro probably gleaned from insider builds, maybe (?)
      https://pureinfotech.com/windows-10-22h2-new-features/

      • #2490813

        That’s a really misleaded list
        those are fixes / quality improvements for all Windows 10 1904x builds

    • #2490887

      This is the first time I’ve seen the term “moments” related to Windows updates.  I haven’t really kept up with Windows 11, so I had to go look up what it meant.  Suddenly, I was craving some General Foods International Coffee.

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    • #2491183

      https://winaero.com/how-to-enable-task-manager-in-taskbar-context-menu-on-windows-11/

      By releasing the “Moment 1” October update for Windows 11 2022 Update, version 22H2, Microsoft has finally shipped several long awaited features, such as Tabs in File Explorer, Taskbar Overflow, and the Task Manager item in the context menu of the taskbar. As Microsoft rolls out new features gradually in its typical fashion, some users didn’t get the Task Manager entry even after installing the 22621.675/KB5019509 update. Here’s how to force enable the new taskbar context menu.

      There are two ways to enable the Task Manager right-click menu option for the taskbar. You can either use the ViveTool app or a Registry tweak. Let’s review them….

      regedit :

      HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\FeatureManagement\Overrides\4

      Right-click the 4 subkey and select New > Key

      Name the new key as 1887869580

      Now right-click the newly created 1887869580 key and select New > DWORD (32-bit) value.

      Name the new value as EnabledState, and set its value data to 2.

      Now, right-click the 1887869580 key once again and again select New > DWORD (32-bit) value. Name it as EnabledStateOptions and leave its data as 0.

      Reboot Windows 11….

      DOWNLOAD READY-TO-USE REG FILES

      Navigate here to download the ZIP archive. Extract it to any convenient location, and double-click the following file.

      enable task manager in taskbar context menu.reg – applies the reviewed Registry changes.

      undo task manager in taskbar context menu.reg – removes the changes from the Registry.

      Now restart your computer, and you are done.

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    • #2491190

      I am an AW newbie using WUMgr on Win 10 Pro 21H2 on a 10 yr old Lenovo Y580 LT and a 15+ yr old Micro Express DT (great machine with an Intel board that just keeps chugging along). I am now seeing KB5017500 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.8 and 4.8.1 for Windows 10 Version 21H2 being offered for both machines, but I don’t see it in the Master Patch list. Have I missed something important? Thanks. -J

    • #2491369

      Hi Susan:

      This is off-topic, but is there any way to log out without having to scroll to the top of the page.  Perhaps there should be a way.

      Thanks for reading.

       

      Mark

       

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