Win7 to Win 10 Build 15063.13 (1703)

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Have two c2D Win10Pro pcs and 1 W7Pro.  After hearing about the hellish update experiences of others, I bravely, – aka stupidity –  decided to upgrade.  I’ve had many issues with Windows 10 since it was introduced through the insiders’ program, but have persevered.

Now I have two older C2D systems running build 14393.693, version 1607, with no built-in apps and various registry changes, and until this morning an Dell OptiPlex 990 quad-core i5 3.2ghz 64-bit Win 7.

But I decided to upgrade the Win7 to Win10. After I started the process, I wondered why, but went ahead anyway.

To my surprise and after just over 1 hour, I had a fully activated, usable Win10 machine with all updates, and my update schedule was set to “Current Branch For Business” out-of-the-box. Amazing.

There was no prompt for a product key either.

I’m not complaining, just wanted to let you know, sometimes, somethings go right without any reason or explanation.

Curious, questioning, inquisitive, yet dementious! Anything else is irrelevant. Be warned!

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Installation of Win 10 is not the moment when problems stop… It’s the moment when problems start :).

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Nice job! Thanks for reporting that the upgrade can go smoothly.

It sounds, from your description of your other Win 10 systems, that we’re of a like mind regarding doing without Apps.

The only thing that bothers me in an ongoing way about Win 10 is that awful, lifeless UI style (excuse me, a lack of style isn’t really a style in itself, it’s just lazy programming). With all prior releases I’ve been able to augment the system with software that facilitates re-theming it, and that’s made Win 10 tolerable, but of course none of the 3rd party software to do that is available yet for version 1703, since the undocumented interfaces have all changed under the covers.

-Noel

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I had a smooth upgrade to Win 10 from Win 8.1 last year on my laptop. No problems at all.  And I was finally rid of that goofy start screen.  Good riddance!

That was testing the waters before I upgraded my desktop from Win 7 about a month later.  Then performed a clean install on the Win 7 machine, and it went fairly smooth as well.

But I had to jump through a few hoops to get from Win 7 (x86) to Win 10 (x64) because there is no direct upgrade path for that bit level change.

You have to let Windows upgrade in place to Win 10 (x86) first with the media creation tool for Win 10 (x86), in order to activate your digital entitlement for Win 10.  Then you can download the media creation tool for the Win 10 (x64) version and clean install it.  So basically you have to do it twice.  The cool thing is that your Win 10 activation is good for both x86 or x64.  And now I finally had a 64 bit OS on my 64 bit hardware. 

Windows 10 Pro 22H2

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Noel Carboni wrote:

The only thing that bothers me in an ongoing way about Win 10 is that awful, lifeless UI style (excuse me, a lack of style isn’t really a style in itself, it’s just lazy programming). With all prior releases I’ve been able to augment the system with software that facilitates re-theming it, and that’s made Win 10 tolerable, but of course none of the 3rd party software to do that is available yet for version 1703, since the undocumented interfaces have all changed under the covers. -Noel

I think that it is all about what you get used to.  I thought the Win 10 UI was fugly at first, but now when I use my only surviving Win 7 system, I find myself missing things, and it just feels dated now.  Never thought I would say that, for several more years at least!

Windows 10 Pro 22H2

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I hear you, though I’ve always felt that when a transition feels wrong, even if you can get used to it then it will never be quite as good to use, long-term.

Every time there’s a Win 10 release it takes a month or two for the 3rd party prettier-upper makers to catch up, but then when I transition back to a more elegant desktop, especially with skeuomorphic (3D-looking) controls I find the transition feels better.

Call me a dinosaur, but I sit in front of a Windows workstation with 3 big monitors and lots of applications open for 12+ hours a day and I find things like rounded corners, translucency, and skeuomorphism on controls really help me navigate around. It’s not just a preference, it means the difference between burning out a few hours sooner – or not.

I actually developed an updated look and feel for my Win 10 desktop so that it neither felt dated nor flat and lifeless…

Actually having used it both ways it’s pretty clear that “flat and lifeless” just isn’t – for ME – as easy to use as “elegant and skeuomorphic”.

-Noel

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What do you think of Project Neon?

https://www.neowin.net/news/project-neon-windows-10-redstone-3-update-will-bring-transparent-live-tiles-to-start-menu

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Transparent tiles! That will change the World forever!

 

To have a special “project” to change tiles transparency and a few UWP apps (Groove + a few others , I guess) is what MS is capable of nowadays :(.

They are progressing at amazing pace, though, for the first RS3 build:

“We have updated the share icon in File Explorer (in the Share tab) to match our new share iconography”

 

Mindblowing :).

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woody wrote:

What do you think of Project Neon?

I guess that would be cool news – if I had any use for tiles or ever saw them.

Do tiles actually benefit anyone? Besides the advertisers, I mean. Last I checked, distracting things on the display were a nuisance, not a boon.

The whole concept reminds me way too much of the big television shown in the film “Idiocracy”. That was supposed to be a bad joke.

From the article:

…it’s clear that the company is – at the very least – experimenting with a wider range of customizations for its next major Windows 10 update. Microsoft said at the time that its overall goal with the Redstone wave of updates is to “make beautiful, engaging experiences possible on the Windows platform”. This will include a greater focus on typography, along with more blur and glass effects, and updated animations.

Go Microsoft! Our heroes for bringing back something we already had and have been missing for a few years!

Wait! Could it be that a greater focus on functionality might be even better?

What were those words of wisdom from Shakespeare about Windows 10… “Much ado about nothing.”

-Noel

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Noel Carboni wrote:

Do tiles actually benefit anyone?

They would be actually quite cool – if they were dynamic, i.e. you have News pinned, you see something interesting showing up in the tile, you click it and you’re taken straight to the article – but this is too difficult for MS…

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Updated both my machines to Creator Update. Apart from IE 11 having to be tweaked and System Restore disabled again ! by default, I’ve had no issues

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