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    I have Win7, have installed Firefox and removed IE8. From a post on an MS site I appreciate not all of IE is removed – I assume that other windows components require parts of it.

    I do not allow MS to download updates, only notify me of availability. In late-November I had removed IE. In mid-December I got a notification of KB976325, a cumulative update for IE, whose publication data was 8 December..

    Some questions.
    a. Having removed IE8 what are the consequences of not installing KB976325?
    b. If I install it will I get all of IE installed?
    c. Having removed IE why did I receive the notification of KB976325?
    d. If I do not need it how can I remove it from the download list?

    NB. I had already removed silverlight, all of .net and Live Essentials.

    Brian

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    • #1197803

      How did you uninstall IE 8 from Windows 7?

      DaveA I am so far behind, I think I am First
      Genealogy....confusing the dead and annoying the living

    • #1197811

      Did you look at the KB article? That says the patch is for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (SP1) with the following operating systems: Windows 2000 SP4.

      Unless you made a typo, something’s very wrong.

      • #1197841

        Did you look at the KB article? That says the patch is for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (SP1) with the following operating systems: Windows 2000 SP4.

        Unless you made a typo, something’s very wrong.

        It is for IE8 also as I have that update and I have the default IE8 installed. maybe IE8 still has part of the operation of IE6?

    • #1197985

      If you have “removed” IE and have no intention whatsoever of using it, there is little point in accepting any Windows Update patches for IE – of any flavour.

    • #1198593

      If you have “removed” IE and have no intention whatsoever of using it, there is little point in accepting any Windows Update patches for IE – of any flavour.

    • #1198979

      If you have “removed” IE and have no intention whatsoever of using it, there is little point in accepting any Windows Update patches for IE – of any flavour.

    • #1200187

      If you have “removed” IE and have no intention whatsoever of using it, there is little point in accepting any Windows Update patches for IE – of any flavour.

    • #1200941

      If you have “removed” IE and have no intention whatsoever of using it, there is little point in accepting any Windows Update patches for IE – of any flavour.

    • #1201900

      If you have “removed” IE and have no intention whatsoever of using it, there is little point in accepting any Windows Update patches for IE – of any flavour.

    • #1202605

      If you have “removed” IE and have no intention whatsoever of using it, there is little point in accepting any Windows Update patches for IE – of any flavour.

    • #1203526

      If you have “removed” IE and have no intention whatsoever of using it, there is little point in accepting any Windows Update patches for IE – of any flavour.

    • #1197989

      You can hide any download notification by right clicking the link to a particular download and choose Hide. It will not be offered again unless you unhide it.

    • #1198597

      You can hide any download notification by right clicking the link to a particular download and choose Hide. It will not be offered again unless you unhide it.

    • #1198984

      You can hide any download notification by right clicking the link to a particular download and choose Hide. It will not be offered again unless you unhide it.

    • #1200191

      You can hide any download notification by right clicking the link to a particular download and choose Hide. It will not be offered again unless you unhide it.

    • #1200945

      You can hide any download notification by right clicking the link to a particular download and choose Hide. It will not be offered again unless you unhide it.

    • #1201904

      You can hide any download notification by right clicking the link to a particular download and choose Hide. It will not be offered again unless you unhide it.

    • #1202609

      You can hide any download notification by right clicking the link to a particular download and choose Hide. It will not be offered again unless you unhide it.

    • #1203530

      You can hide any download notification by right clicking the link to a particular download and choose Hide. It will not be offered again unless you unhide it.

    • #1198011

      Many thanks for the prompt replies.

      Dave A. “How did you uninstall IE 8 from Windows 7?” I found this url http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-mail/36220-how-disable-internet-explorer.html where the instructions were as follows
      Control Panel (icons view) > Programs and Features > Turn Windows features on/off > Uncheck IE8 then Windows Features – Turn On or Off
      It is important to have the icons view as the option is not visible with the other two.

      Malcolm Wagner. “If you have “removed” IE and have no intention whatsoever of using it, there is little point in accepting any Windows Update patches for IE – of any flavour.” That was my intention and why I do not allow the updates – I want to monitor and then select what I want. The problem was “removing” the update notification. That was answered by Ted Myers.

      Brian

      • #1198039

        Malcolm Wagner. “If you have “removed” IE and have no intention whatsoever of using it, there is little point in accepting any Windows Update patches for IE – of any flavour.” That was my intention and why I do not allow the updates – I want to monitor and then select what I want. The problem was “removing” the update notification. That was answered by Ted Myers.

        At this time I would be reluctant to not install an update recommended by Windows Update. Getting rid of IE, does not remove all of the underlying dlls that IE uses. I do not know if Microsoft have figured out how to package fixes that may be for some of these left behind files and not have them identified as IE patches.

        Joe

        --Joe

      • #1198656

        Malcolm Wagner. “If you have “removed” IE and have no intention whatsoever of using it, there is little point in accepting any Windows Update patches for IE – of any flavour.” That was my intention and why I do not allow the updates – I want to monitor and then select what I want. The problem was “removing” the update notification. That was answered by Ted Myers.

        At this time I would be reluctant to not install an update recommended by Windows Update. Getting rid of IE, does not remove all of the underlying dlls that IE uses. I do not know if Microsoft have figured out how to package fixes that may be for some of these left behind files and not have them identified as IE patches.

        Joe

        --Joe

      • #1199175

        Malcolm Wagner. “If you have “removed” IE and have no intention whatsoever of using it, there is little point in accepting any Windows Update patches for IE – of any flavour.” That was my intention and why I do not allow the updates – I want to monitor and then select what I want. The problem was “removing” the update notification. That was answered by Ted Myers.

        At this time I would be reluctant to not install an update recommended by Windows Update. Getting rid of IE, does not remove all of the underlying dlls that IE uses. I do not know if Microsoft have figured out how to package fixes that may be for some of these left behind files and not have them identified as IE patches.

        Joe

        --Joe

      • #1200250

        Malcolm Wagner. “If you have “removed” IE and have no intention whatsoever of using it, there is little point in accepting any Windows Update patches for IE – of any flavour.” That was my intention and why I do not allow the updates – I want to monitor and then select what I want. The problem was “removing” the update notification. That was answered by Ted Myers.

        At this time I would be reluctant to not install an update recommended by Windows Update. Getting rid of IE, does not remove all of the underlying dlls that IE uses. I do not know if Microsoft have figured out how to package fixes that may be for some of these left behind files and not have them identified as IE patches.

        Joe

        --Joe

      • #1201122

        Malcolm Wagner. “If you have “removed” IE and have no intention whatsoever of using it, there is little point in accepting any Windows Update patches for IE – of any flavour.” That was my intention and why I do not allow the updates – I want to monitor and then select what I want. The problem was “removing” the update notification. That was answered by Ted Myers.

        At this time I would be reluctant to not install an update recommended by Windows Update. Getting rid of IE, does not remove all of the underlying dlls that IE uses. I do not know if Microsoft have figured out how to package fixes that may be for some of these left behind files and not have them identified as IE patches.

        Joe

        --Joe

      • #1201963

        Malcolm Wagner. “If you have “removed” IE and have no intention whatsoever of using it, there is little point in accepting any Windows Update patches for IE – of any flavour.” That was my intention and why I do not allow the updates – I want to monitor and then select what I want. The problem was “removing” the update notification. That was answered by Ted Myers.

        At this time I would be reluctant to not install an update recommended by Windows Update. Getting rid of IE, does not remove all of the underlying dlls that IE uses. I do not know if Microsoft have figured out how to package fixes that may be for some of these left behind files and not have them identified as IE patches.

        Joe

        --Joe

      • #1202718

        Malcolm Wagner. “If you have “removed” IE and have no intention whatsoever of using it, there is little point in accepting any Windows Update patches for IE – of any flavour.” That was my intention and why I do not allow the updates – I want to monitor and then select what I want. The problem was “removing” the update notification. That was answered by Ted Myers.

        At this time I would be reluctant to not install an update recommended by Windows Update. Getting rid of IE, does not remove all of the underlying dlls that IE uses. I do not know if Microsoft have figured out how to package fixes that may be for some of these left behind files and not have them identified as IE patches.

        Joe

        --Joe

      • #1203603

        Malcolm Wagner. “If you have “removed” IE and have no intention whatsoever of using it, there is little point in accepting any Windows Update patches for IE – of any flavour.” That was my intention and why I do not allow the updates – I want to monitor and then select what I want. The problem was “removing” the update notification. That was answered by Ted Myers.

        At this time I would be reluctant to not install an update recommended by Windows Update. Getting rid of IE, does not remove all of the underlying dlls that IE uses. I do not know if Microsoft have figured out how to package fixes that may be for some of these left behind files and not have them identified as IE patches.

        Joe

        --Joe

    • #1198622

      Many thanks for the prompt replies.

      Dave A. “How did you uninstall IE 8 from Windows 7?” I found this url http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-mail/36220-how-disable-internet-explorer.html where the instructions were as follows
      Control Panel (icons view) > Programs and Features > Turn Windows features on/off > Uncheck IE8 then Windows Features – Turn On or Off
      It is important to have the icons view as the option is not visible with the other two.

      Malcolm Wagner. “If you have “removed” IE and have no intention whatsoever of using it, there is little point in accepting any Windows Update patches for IE – of any flavour.” That was my intention and why I do not allow the updates – I want to monitor and then select what I want. The problem was “removing” the update notification. That was answered by Ted Myers.

      Brian

    • #1199050

      Many thanks for the prompt replies.

      Dave A. “How did you uninstall IE 8 from Windows 7?” I found this url http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-mail/36220-how-disable-internet-explorer.html where the instructions were as follows
      Control Panel (icons view) > Programs and Features > Turn Windows features on/off > Uncheck IE8 then Windows Features – Turn On or Off
      It is important to have the icons view as the option is not visible with the other two.

      Malcolm Wagner. “If you have “removed” IE and have no intention whatsoever of using it, there is little point in accepting any Windows Update patches for IE – of any flavour.” That was my intention and why I do not allow the updates – I want to monitor and then select what I want. The problem was “removing” the update notification. That was answered by Ted Myers.

      Brian

    • #1200216

      Many thanks for the prompt replies.

      Dave A. “How did you uninstall IE 8 from Windows 7?” I found this url http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-mail/36220-how-disable-internet-explorer.html where the instructions were as follows
      Control Panel (icons view) > Programs and Features > Turn Windows features on/off > Uncheck IE8 then Windows Features – Turn On or Off
      It is important to have the icons view as the option is not visible with the other two.

      Malcolm Wagner. “If you have “removed” IE and have no intention whatsoever of using it, there is little point in accepting any Windows Update patches for IE – of any flavour.” That was my intention and why I do not allow the updates – I want to monitor and then select what I want. The problem was “removing” the update notification. That was answered by Ted Myers.

      Brian

    • #1201012

      Many thanks for the prompt replies.

      Dave A. “How did you uninstall IE 8 from Windows 7?” I found this url http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-mail/36220-how-disable-internet-explorer.html where the instructions were as follows
      Control Panel (icons view) > Programs and Features > Turn Windows features on/off > Uncheck IE8 then Windows Features – Turn On or Off
      It is important to have the icons view as the option is not visible with the other two.

      Malcolm Wagner. “If you have “removed” IE and have no intention whatsoever of using it, there is little point in accepting any Windows Update patches for IE – of any flavour.” That was my intention and why I do not allow the updates – I want to monitor and then select what I want. The problem was “removing” the update notification. That was answered by Ted Myers.

      Brian

    • #1201929

      Many thanks for the prompt replies.

      Dave A. “How did you uninstall IE 8 from Windows 7?” I found this url http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-mail/36220-how-disable-internet-explorer.html where the instructions were as follows
      Control Panel (icons view) > Programs and Features > Turn Windows features on/off > Uncheck IE8 then Windows Features – Turn On or Off
      It is important to have the icons view as the option is not visible with the other two.

      Malcolm Wagner. “If you have “removed” IE and have no intention whatsoever of using it, there is little point in accepting any Windows Update patches for IE – of any flavour.” That was my intention and why I do not allow the updates – I want to monitor and then select what I want. The problem was “removing” the update notification. That was answered by Ted Myers.

      Brian

    • #1202634

      Many thanks for the prompt replies.

      Dave A. “How did you uninstall IE 8 from Windows 7?” I found this url http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-mail/36220-how-disable-internet-explorer.html where the instructions were as follows
      Control Panel (icons view) > Programs and Features > Turn Windows features on/off > Uncheck IE8 then Windows Features – Turn On or Off
      It is important to have the icons view as the option is not visible with the other two.

      Malcolm Wagner. “If you have “removed” IE and have no intention whatsoever of using it, there is little point in accepting any Windows Update patches for IE – of any flavour.” That was my intention and why I do not allow the updates – I want to monitor and then select what I want. The problem was “removing” the update notification. That was answered by Ted Myers.

      Brian

    • #1203555

      Many thanks for the prompt replies.

      Dave A. “How did you uninstall IE 8 from Windows 7?” I found this url http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-mail/36220-how-disable-internet-explorer.html where the instructions were as follows
      Control Panel (icons view) > Programs and Features > Turn Windows features on/off > Uncheck IE8 then Windows Features – Turn On or Off
      It is important to have the icons view as the option is not visible with the other two.

      Malcolm Wagner. “If you have “removed” IE and have no intention whatsoever of using it, there is little point in accepting any Windows Update patches for IE – of any flavour.” That was my intention and why I do not allow the updates – I want to monitor and then select what I want. The problem was “removing” the update notification. That was answered by Ted Myers.

      Brian

    • #1198104

      Joe

      Thanks for that comment. I was aware that not all of IE was removed and that some dlls will have been left. The question is how significant they might be.

      Microsoft have just agreed the way forward on IE with the EU Competition Commissioner. The agreement comes into effect about April so the air should be clear by then. I will hold back from ignoring the update.

      Brian

      • #1198184

        Thanks for that comment. I was aware that not all of IE was removed and that some dlls will have been left. The question is how significant they might be.

        Microsoft have just agreed the way forward on IE with the EU Competition Commissioner. The agreement comes into effect about April so the air should be clear by then. I will hold back from ignoring the update.

        What Microsoft has agreed to remove is the shell part of IE responsible for the UI. The underlying components are used by other applications such as Maxthon and Avant (both browsers which are based on the IE rendering engine). I don’t believe those will be removed. As far as clearing the air well I don’t know how Microsoft will choose to identify patches for the remaining components but I still think that if Windows Update is recommending you patch something you should.

        Joe

        --Joe

      • #1198816

        Thanks for that comment. I was aware that not all of IE was removed and that some dlls will have been left. The question is how significant they might be.

        Microsoft have just agreed the way forward on IE with the EU Competition Commissioner. The agreement comes into effect about April so the air should be clear by then. I will hold back from ignoring the update.

        What Microsoft has agreed to remove is the shell part of IE responsible for the UI. The underlying components are used by other applications such as Maxthon and Avant (both browsers which are based on the IE rendering engine). I don’t believe those will be removed. As far as clearing the air well I don’t know how Microsoft will choose to identify patches for the remaining components but I still think that if Windows Update is recommending you patch something you should.

        Joe

        --Joe

      • #1199562

        Thanks for that comment. I was aware that not all of IE was removed and that some dlls will have been left. The question is how significant they might be.

        Microsoft have just agreed the way forward on IE with the EU Competition Commissioner. The agreement comes into effect about April so the air should be clear by then. I will hold back from ignoring the update.

        What Microsoft has agreed to remove is the shell part of IE responsible for the UI. The underlying components are used by other applications such as Maxthon and Avant (both browsers which are based on the IE rendering engine). I don’t believe those will be removed. As far as clearing the air well I don’t know how Microsoft will choose to identify patches for the remaining components but I still think that if Windows Update is recommending you patch something you should.

        Joe

        --Joe

      • #1200445

        Thanks for that comment. I was aware that not all of IE was removed and that some dlls will have been left. The question is how significant they might be.

        Microsoft have just agreed the way forward on IE with the EU Competition Commissioner. The agreement comes into effect about April so the air should be clear by then. I will hold back from ignoring the update.

        What Microsoft has agreed to remove is the shell part of IE responsible for the UI. The underlying components are used by other applications such as Maxthon and Avant (both browsers which are based on the IE rendering engine). I don’t believe those will be removed. As far as clearing the air well I don’t know how Microsoft will choose to identify patches for the remaining components but I still think that if Windows Update is recommending you patch something you should.

        Joe

        --Joe

      • #1201343

        Thanks for that comment. I was aware that not all of IE was removed and that some dlls will have been left. The question is how significant they might be.

        Microsoft have just agreed the way forward on IE with the EU Competition Commissioner. The agreement comes into effect about April so the air should be clear by then. I will hold back from ignoring the update.

        What Microsoft has agreed to remove is the shell part of IE responsible for the UI. The underlying components are used by other applications such as Maxthon and Avant (both browsers which are based on the IE rendering engine). I don’t believe those will be removed. As far as clearing the air well I don’t know how Microsoft will choose to identify patches for the remaining components but I still think that if Windows Update is recommending you patch something you should.

        Joe

        --Joe

      • #1202156

        Thanks for that comment. I was aware that not all of IE was removed and that some dlls will have been left. The question is how significant they might be.

        Microsoft have just agreed the way forward on IE with the EU Competition Commissioner. The agreement comes into effect about April so the air should be clear by then. I will hold back from ignoring the update.

        What Microsoft has agreed to remove is the shell part of IE responsible for the UI. The underlying components are used by other applications such as Maxthon and Avant (both browsers which are based on the IE rendering engine). I don’t believe those will be removed. As far as clearing the air well I don’t know how Microsoft will choose to identify patches for the remaining components but I still think that if Windows Update is recommending you patch something you should.

        Joe

        --Joe

      • #1202868

        Thanks for that comment. I was aware that not all of IE was removed and that some dlls will have been left. The question is how significant they might be.

        Microsoft have just agreed the way forward on IE with the EU Competition Commissioner. The agreement comes into effect about April so the air should be clear by then. I will hold back from ignoring the update.

        What Microsoft has agreed to remove is the shell part of IE responsible for the UI. The underlying components are used by other applications such as Maxthon and Avant (both browsers which are based on the IE rendering engine). I don’t believe those will be removed. As far as clearing the air well I don’t know how Microsoft will choose to identify patches for the remaining components but I still think that if Windows Update is recommending you patch something you should.

        Joe

        --Joe

      • #1203834

        Thanks for that comment. I was aware that not all of IE was removed and that some dlls will have been left. The question is how significant they might be.

        Microsoft have just agreed the way forward on IE with the EU Competition Commissioner. The agreement comes into effect about April so the air should be clear by then. I will hold back from ignoring the update.

        What Microsoft has agreed to remove is the shell part of IE responsible for the UI. The underlying components are used by other applications such as Maxthon and Avant (both browsers which are based on the IE rendering engine). I don’t believe those will be removed. As far as clearing the air well I don’t know how Microsoft will choose to identify patches for the remaining components but I still think that if Windows Update is recommending you patch something you should.

        Joe

        --Joe

    • #1198727

      Joe

      Thanks for that comment. I was aware that not all of IE was removed and that some dlls will have been left. The question is how significant they might be.

      Microsoft have just agreed the way forward on IE with the EU Competition Commissioner. The agreement comes into effect about April so the air should be clear by then. I will hold back from ignoring the update.

      Brian

    • #1199333

      Joe

      Thanks for that comment. I was aware that not all of IE was removed and that some dlls will have been left. The question is how significant they might be.

      Microsoft have just agreed the way forward on IE with the EU Competition Commissioner. The agreement comes into effect about April so the air should be clear by then. I will hold back from ignoring the update.

      Brian

    • #1200317

      Joe

      Thanks for that comment. I was aware that not all of IE was removed and that some dlls will have been left. The question is how significant they might be.

      Microsoft have just agreed the way forward on IE with the EU Competition Commissioner. The agreement comes into effect about April so the air should be clear by then. I will hold back from ignoring the update.

      Brian

    • #1201257

      Joe

      Thanks for that comment. I was aware that not all of IE was removed and that some dlls will have been left. The question is how significant they might be.

      Microsoft have just agreed the way forward on IE with the EU Competition Commissioner. The agreement comes into effect about April so the air should be clear by then. I will hold back from ignoring the update.

      Brian

    • #1202070

      Joe

      Thanks for that comment. I was aware that not all of IE was removed and that some dlls will have been left. The question is how significant they might be.

      Microsoft have just agreed the way forward on IE with the EU Competition Commissioner. The agreement comes into effect about April so the air should be clear by then. I will hold back from ignoring the update.

      Brian

    • #1202781

      Joe

      Thanks for that comment. I was aware that not all of IE was removed and that some dlls will have been left. The question is how significant they might be.

      Microsoft have just agreed the way forward on IE with the EU Competition Commissioner. The agreement comes into effect about April so the air should be clear by then. I will hold back from ignoring the update.

      Brian

    • #1203748

      Joe

      Thanks for that comment. I was aware that not all of IE was removed and that some dlls will have been left. The question is how significant they might be.

      Microsoft have just agreed the way forward on IE with the EU Competition Commissioner. The agreement comes into effect about April so the air should be clear by then. I will hold back from ignoring the update.

      Brian

    • #1198375

      Joe

      Thanks for that clarification. I have just read Susan Bradley’s “Why the need to reboot after updating Windows?” (Windows Secrets Newsletter • Issue 227) where she states
      “And don’t think that using Firefox gets you a pass on these updates: You have to update Internet Explorer because Windows uses IE for many other purposes. Thus malware can still reach your system through IE whether you open the program or not.”
      Although I have removed most of the MS software I still have the operating system and MS Security Essentials. My principal operating system is ubuntu under wubi. Susan’s last sentence is the clincher. I will apply the update.

      Brian

    • #1199449

      Joe

      Thanks for that clarification. I have just read Susan Bradley’s “Why the need to reboot after updating Windows?” (Windows Secrets Newsletter • Issue 227) where she states
      “And don’t think that using Firefox gets you a pass on these updates: You have to update Internet Explorer because Windows uses IE for many other purposes. Thus malware can still reach your system through IE whether you open the program or not.”
      Although I have removed most of the MS software I still have the operating system and MS Security Essentials. My principal operating system is ubuntu under wubi. Susan’s last sentence is the clincher. I will apply the update.

      Brian

    • #1199929

      Joe

      Thanks for that clarification. I have just read Susan Bradley’s “Why the need to reboot after updating Windows?” (Windows Secrets Newsletter • Issue 227) where she states
      “And don’t think that using Firefox gets you a pass on these updates: You have to update Internet Explorer because Windows uses IE for many other purposes. Thus malware can still reach your system through IE whether you open the program or not.”
      Although I have removed most of the MS software I still have the operating system and MS Security Essentials. My principal operating system is ubuntu under wubi. Susan’s last sentence is the clincher. I will apply the update.

      Brian

    • #1200685

      Joe

      Thanks for that clarification. I have just read Susan Bradley’s “Why the need to reboot after updating Windows?” (Windows Secrets Newsletter • Issue 227) where she states
      “And don’t think that using Firefox gets you a pass on these updates: You have to update Internet Explorer because Windows uses IE for many other purposes. Thus malware can still reach your system through IE whether you open the program or not.”
      Although I have removed most of the MS software I still have the operating system and MS Security Essentials. My principal operating system is ubuntu under wubi. Susan’s last sentence is the clincher. I will apply the update.

      Brian

    • #1201562

      Joe

      Thanks for that clarification. I have just read Susan Bradley’s “Why the need to reboot after updating Windows?” (Windows Secrets Newsletter • Issue 227) where she states
      “And don’t think that using Firefox gets you a pass on these updates: You have to update Internet Explorer because Windows uses IE for many other purposes. Thus malware can still reach your system through IE whether you open the program or not.”
      Although I have removed most of the MS software I still have the operating system and MS Security Essentials. My principal operating system is ubuntu under wubi. Susan’s last sentence is the clincher. I will apply the update.

      Brian

    • #1202375

      Joe

      Thanks for that clarification. I have just read Susan Bradley’s “Why the need to reboot after updating Windows?” (Windows Secrets Newsletter • Issue 227) where she states
      “And don’t think that using Firefox gets you a pass on these updates: You have to update Internet Explorer because Windows uses IE for many other purposes. Thus malware can still reach your system through IE whether you open the program or not.”
      Although I have removed most of the MS software I still have the operating system and MS Security Essentials. My principal operating system is ubuntu under wubi. Susan’s last sentence is the clincher. I will apply the update.

      Brian

    • #1203214

      Joe

      Thanks for that clarification. I have just read Susan Bradley’s “Why the need to reboot after updating Windows?” (Windows Secrets Newsletter • Issue 227) where she states
      “And don’t think that using Firefox gets you a pass on these updates: You have to update Internet Explorer because Windows uses IE for many other purposes. Thus malware can still reach your system through IE whether you open the program or not.”
      Although I have removed most of the MS software I still have the operating system and MS Security Essentials. My principal operating system is ubuntu under wubi. Susan’s last sentence is the clincher. I will apply the update.

      Brian

    • #1204088

      Joe

      Thanks for that clarification. I have just read Susan Bradley’s “Why the need to reboot after updating Windows?” (Windows Secrets Newsletter • Issue 227) where she states
      “And don’t think that using Firefox gets you a pass on these updates: You have to update Internet Explorer because Windows uses IE for many other purposes. Thus malware can still reach your system through IE whether you open the program or not.”
      Although I have removed most of the MS software I still have the operating system and MS Security Essentials. My principal operating system is ubuntu under wubi. Susan’s last sentence is the clincher. I will apply the update.

      Brian

    • #1204861

      Brian

      It is my understanding that when you use Programs and Features > Turn Windows features on/off > Uncheck IE8 then Windows Features – Turn On or Off  to remove IE (or any other options shown there) you are not actually “removing” it. All you are doing is “Hiding” from view. The program (feature) is still installed on your PC. See this link for more details.

      http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/03/07/microsoft-to-allow-users-to-disable-internet-explorer-and-more-in-windows-7

      I have looked for the original link for this info but cannot find it at present but I will try and track it down. 

      I would suggest that you install these updates.

    • #1204869

      Ernie

      Thanks for the web address. I googled to find this http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/03/07/microsoft-to-allow-users-to-disable-internet-explorer-and-more-in-windows-7/ . I wonder if that is good enough for the EU Competition Commissioner. I will install the updates.

      Brian

    • #1204874

      Brian

      It is totally mis-leading the way MS wordeddescribed this procedure. There is no clear warningindication that the programsfeatures are actually STILL installed on the PC.

      To FULLY comply with EU regulation MS will  (or at least IMHO they should) publish details on the complete removal of IE. If they have found away (which, as far as I know they have because they offered to release a special version of W7 in the EU and then retracted it and came up with the chance to choose default browser – (which by the way I have never been offered on the 5 PC’s I installed (all retail versions) 7 onto) 

      To completely remove IE and leave a stable OS   the details will surface on the net. I know that it was possible to completely remove older versions of IE from previous OS’s but your PC became unstable. 

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