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    The Win10 update page lists: 14393.187 (KB 3189866) – Anniversary Update 1607 10586.589 (KB 3185614) – Fall Update 1511 10240.17113 (KB 3185611)- RTM
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    • #35054

      Windows 7 updates just hit also:

      -KB3182373 (M$ Silverlight)
      -KB3185319 (IE 11)
      -KB3175024
      -KB3177186
      -KB3184122
      -KB3185911
      -KB890830 (MSRT)

      And oddly for me:

      -KB3172605 (July Rollup) which I already have installed…

    • #35055

      I believe we have a short migration period for recompiling our stuff per KB3181759 – but they are not clear what the forgiveness time will be. Could be short.

      ~ Group "Weekend" ~

    • #35056

      Woody, in a previous page you mentioned or commented on Google Android OS and I have seen, today that we will have an excellent choice between at least three combinations using the aforementioned OS sequences. This looks promising, to say the least, as the new OSA combinations will eventually be able to be compatible with the software that we are using now or have used in the past. I think that if Google, Google Chrome and Android handle this new transition into world of OS’s, with extreme caution, (not letting MS interfere at all in the process, this will be our life-saving transportation into the future. (at least for me)

    • #35057

      Heck!! another 1/3 of an OS full download for the 1511 sufferers. yeah i get the cummulative factor, yeah i get M$ alleges only the bits you need get installed/ downloaded but really M$ just send me a USB once a year for a fresh install i can spend the festive period sorting out the inevitable problems and settings, data and tunes and we will start afresh in the new year with a new blank USB stick (for more tunes) now that sounds like a deal to me 🙂

    • #35058

      The one key ingredient that ChromeOS with Android capability lacks: It will never run Windows programs.

      That, and Google’s snooping, may be good reason to avoid it.

    • #35059

      any 1511 Printer issue fix here??

    • #35060

      Woody, is there an ‘S’ missing from the thread title?
      It would certainly fit with the hit we’ve all taken from microsoft over the last year..

    • #35061

      Thanks for your article about September Patch Tuesday 2016. All updates installed successfully for me using Win 10 1607, now build 14393.187. This update took 30 minutes to download and install …. seems longer than previous updates. All is stable though, with my reliability monitor at “10”. Loving Windows 10.

    • #35062

      I assume we hide all that show up for Win 10 version 1511 (or any for version 1607 if it is installed) and MS Office, and anything else like Adobe and MSRT?

      Are any of them so critical they should be installed now, or within the next day or so?

      Thanks!

    • #35063

      I haven’t seen anything super-critical. Stick with the MS-DEFCON 2 plan.

    • #35064

      🙂

    • #35065

      I’ll be looking for it overnight.

      Should have a roundup on InfoWorld in the morning.

    • #35066

      Yes, my Win 7 Pro Updates on my Alienware gaming PC automatically loaded no problem at all by 5 PM Eastern Time Zone.

      I installed the Malicious checker utility first, it automatically creates a restore point before it loads up. Then I installed the IE 11, updates.

      I will wait for Woody to suggest what he thinks is best for the other 5 updates.

      Now, my other machine hasn’t loaded up updates since May 2016. I may have to reload Windows 7 on it and start over. That machine is just for backup and troubleshooting if my gaming PC goes down. I scratch built that one about 2009.

    • #35067

      One of the problems for me is Cortana and edge. I want nothing to do w them and got rid of them. If I update they will return and whether the scripts uninstalling them will work again is uncertain. Anothe major reason to keep Wu off.

    • #35068

      Did the same as you, except by IE11… I don’t use it, so I’ll put it on the wait list among the others… Just installed the Windows Defender definitions as well the MSRT.

      And correcting my original post, KB317205 (July Rollup) was marked as Optional, and was now relauched as “Recommended”… I have it already installed, and confirmed it was, at the time, labelled as Optional, so I guess it is popping up again due to the relauching and refurbishing of it’s “importance”…

      Doesn’t know what to do with it though… Is it possible that it’s content has somehow changed, thus making it ideal to reinstall? Or it’s just a matter of hiding it?

    • #35069

      Which is worse: Google’s medium snooping or MicroSoft’s heavy snooping? No matter which OS you start there will be some level of snooping, that is the way it is now. It’s just who will invoke the worse snoop program and how long can we survive until we have to find the next OS. I guess a few years of relative quiet could give us a chance to regroup.

    • #35070

      Sorry Woody. Does Win 10 run windows programs? Only if the computer works, no?
      All posts from me deleted from here on!

    • #35071

      Sorry, I didn’t understand that…

    • #35072

      I don’t know enough to say whether MS or Google has “heavier” snooping.

    • #35073

      I have yet to install the KB3150513 that arrived on 9/6/16.

      For my Windows 10 1511 version I got 4 Office updates, Adobe update and MSRT.

      For the OS in particular I received:
      Cumulative update Win 10 ver 1511 x64 -based KB3185614
      Updates for Windows 10 ver 1511 x64 -based KB3161102 and KB3181403.

      Silverlight conundrum. I received my 2nd Silverlight update today. I received one a couple of months back. I have hidden both. The first KB3162593, and today’s KB3182373.

      As far as I can tell by searching installed programs, installed apps, and a general search on the C drive I do not have Silverlight on this computer. I would think it would show up in one of the searches I have done. I doubt it is lurking in Recovery D drive — never have even put my mouse on that.

      I don’t want Silverlight, let alone want to update it. If MS is trying to update it doesn’t it actually have to be somewhere??? (I know that’s a logical question, and that doesn’t always work with MS.)

      Can someone give me an idea on how to find it if my other 3 searches don’t come up with it?

      I did not wonder until now but, is it ever an extension on IE or Edge? I have not looked on either of those browsers nor know how because to my mind they do not exist and I never use them.

      If someone can tell me Silverlight may be an extension or plugin on one of those browsers, under what rock in my OEM Win 10 Home it might be located, I can figure out how to get rid of it.

      Thank you all!

    • #35074

      Silverlight “optional” patches have been around for centuries. Silverlight is garbage. Microsoft can’t get out from under it fast enough. Pity the poor developers who hung their hats on it.

    • #35075

      I understand they are patches that have been around, and I know I don’t want Silverlight, but why am I getting updates sent to me when I cannot find Silverlight on my computer?

      The patches can’t fix or update a program or app that isn’t there.

      Do I just keep hiding them?

      Or, am I missing something?

    • #35076

      Keep ignoring them.

    • #35077

      Hi Woody, for Win 10 version 1511, is there anything that would break the system in today’s patch Tuesday updates? Is it still best to wait a few days before venturing into the updates?

    • #35078

      I am still running GWX Control Panel constantly. Will it do any good on the new way of the update?

    • #35079

      I have had Silverlight since to 2009 OS was put On my computer. I only remember two updates since then. Should I delete it from my system?

    • #35080

      Naw, just ignore it – and use something other than Internet Explorer.

    • #35081

      I don’t think you need it anymore.

    • #35082

      Watch the MS-DEFCON level. Nothing you need to install immediately.

    • #35083

      So, has that icon text left justified issue in Windows 10 1607 been fixed by this new cumulative “update”?

      Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.

    • #35084

      I stopped Internet Explorer on your first alert, months ago. Just applied updates you told us too. Thanks

    • #35085

      Woody, do you have any authoritative information about this subject? We are all guessing and wish that Silverlight will die soon, sooner than Flash perhaps, but when there is a report from Microsoft claiming just that, next day someone else from Microsoft comes and assures everyone that Silverlight is well and alive and will keep on being developed.

    • #35086

      Because you have the so-called Microsoft Update enabled. It is the checkbox under Give me update for other Microsoft products. If you untick that box, you may not get Office Updates though.
      So I think you can leave that box checked and ignore Silverlight.
      Otherwise (not the best option though) you could install Silverlight and keep it updated until Microsoft will nuke it, like they did with the Journal.
      Silverlight is just Microsoft’s poorer software released in response to Adobe (Macromedia back then) Flash.

    • #35087

      There have been more updates than I can remember, not only two. If you don’t need it and it is safe to assume so, just uninstall it. If you find later that you really need it, just get it back. Microsoft will let you know if you need it as it is implemented only on Microsoft pages and in some software which you are unlikely to use.

    • #35088

      Ha ha, there is a Silverlight add-on for Firefox too 🙂
      Not as easy as you’d expect to get rid of it.
      By uninstalling though, the Firefox add-on goes away too.

    • #35089

      GACK! It’s EVERYwhere….

    • #35090

      I have nothing official – just been noticing Silverlight fading into the sunset.

      The fact that Edge doesn’t run Silverlight speaks volumes.

    • #35091

      Nope, and it won’t be because 14393 has it left justified. Looks like MS wants it that way.

    • #35092

      Thank you ch100. That explanation makes perfect sense to me! You are right, I will leave it checked for MS Office 2007 updates, etc. I appreciate your help on this.

    • #35093

      “Which is worse: Google’s medium snooping or MicroSoft’s heavy snooping?”

      I think you have that backwards. Google’s raison d’etre is data collection. Google is everywhere. Install something like NoScript in Firefox and see how many webpages you find Google something on. Google owns YouTube, VirusTotal, Blogger, Android, etc. Wikipedia says Google has acquired, on average, more than one company per week since 2010. Google Capital has invested in some ISPs. I don’t if the arrangment provides Google access to user data, but I know that I wouldn’t want Google anything anywhere near my ISP.

    • #35094

      I’m more than a bit paranoid about Windows updates after the dreaded Anniversary update that was a terrible– thankfully I jumped back over to version 1511 before I ran into any of the crazy functionality problems I’ve been hearing about.

      Regarding Tuesday updates: I’m seeing the Fall 1511 KB3185614 update, but also see two other windows updates: KB3161102 and KB3181403.
      I’m still getting the hang of the whole put-off updates in Windows 10 using the wushowhide tool, but the tool didn’t pick up the Cumulative update or the previous two as something to hide– only showing a KB 3150513 as an option to hide. Any idea why I’m not able to hide the main 3 updates or what to do?

    • #35095

      Anybody got an opinion on the current Defcon level for the Anniversary Update?

      Been holding off …

    • #35096

      Just to add, my disk volumes only use NTFS partitions, except for the “Recovery Partition” and the “EFI System Partition”, which were created by the system installer.

      So not sure if the “RAW partition” bug can affect me?

    • #35097

      LOL, just read this. I can wait. Don’t want to become another “beta” tester 🙂
      http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-anniversary-update-rollout-may-not-be-done-until-early-november/

    • #35098

      Hard to tell. Only consistent situation I’ve seen is when the NTFS partition is on a secondary drive…

    • #35099
    • #35100

      Metered WiFi and wushowhide have worked beautifully again this month for my Win 10 Home PC, to prevent downloading the updates.

      One thing that I have also observed about this behavior on Win 10 Pro is:

      Even if you have GPedit admin settings to never check for updates, if you manually click on “Check for updates” in Settings, they will get queued up for download.

      The thing that saved my bacon in this case was the “Metered WiFi” setting in Pro. So then I just had to run wushowhide.

    • #35101

      I guess, against your advice, I just now deleted Silverlight 5.1.50428.0, so far so good. I’m trimming to fat!

    • #35102

      Couldn’t just zapped it!!!!

    • #35103

      Wants it that way? Then how about the answers given by a supposedly Microsoft support engineer here:

      http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-files/anyone-else-seeing-text-justification-issues-in/ab720c58-f8f6-43d9-b5fa-09eb4c8fe657?page=2

      That engineer said “We’re aware of this issue and our team is working on it.” Is he talking crap then? Or is it someone in that thread that said “it may be that is not that easy to fix or it is in a long list of easy things to fix”?

      I would hope that this issue will eventually be fixed, even though I won’t be using Windows 10 anytime soon.

      Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.

    • #35104

      Likely it’s in a long line of things that are easy to fix – but in the latest beta build, it’s still that way.

    • #35105

      Google will soon be my ISP much to AT&T and Time Warner’s (soon to be Charter) consternation. The downtown San Diego region has Google Fiber service now. Google is my cell carrier (Project Fi) as well. For some reason I am comfortable with the level of Google snooping and I have never been MS, I spayed Cortana on the spot with Windows 10. With Google I turned on everything that reports back and now my phone and Chrome seem to know what I want before I do its almost uncanny how it reads my mind. I have been assimilated and am now Borg and all is good with Google. But not the evil empire that is Microsoft ;-p Illogical? You bet but that is my preference, maybe its Karmic justice for all the headaches and aggravation MS has inflicted on me over the years. I am chomping to rid myself of the last traces of the MS world from all my tech.

    • #35106

      Hi all

      I often come to this site to check whether or not to load updates. I started doing so, after trying to install windows x and ruining my machine.

      Ms then advised me to rollback and I was unable to do so, so had to format and reinstall. I try to keep my data on a different drive to that of my OS so not too much damage done aside from the wasted time.

      I do not consider myself to be a geek, although I do consider myself more knowledgeable than your average Joe, having done A+ certification when win 3 was hot and NT was “the next thing !”

      So, “geek speak” often sounds like gibberish to me ! ;-(

      I often struggle to follow the posts here, and very often there seems to be a lack of a definitive answer

      Q: I have received notification of KB 3175024, 3177186, 3184122 and 3185911 – Do I install them ?

    • #35107

      Nope. Note the MS-DEFCON level. It’s far too early to install any of the current month’s patches. As long as you don’t use Internet Explorer (or Edge) you’re safe.

    • #35108

      Thanks, I’m using Firefox, dropped Explorer about 10 years ago !

    • #35109

      I had the exact same question for the exact same 4 items as Gavin, so thanks Woody. I spend too much time at this site and infoworld. Thank you for all of your service. I have pointed others here too.

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