Win10 1809 second February cumulative update, KB 4482887, blamed for “crazy” performance drops in some games

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Microsoft hasn’t acknowledged the bug yet, but it looks like the second cumulative update (the “optional, non-security update”) released on March 1, i
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“Get Windows 10 for the maximum gaming experience”.

They don’t even respect the gamers anymore.

I miss Windows XP...

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doriel

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Unless you play Candy Crush Saga and do microtransactions. I really do not like, what microsoft is doing now – semianual updates, windows as a service, cortana, collecting your data, two control panel, powershell syntax, building OS on the same c***** source code since NT (see internet options for example)…. [also edited], Gates is still second or third most rich person in the world, when will he have enough?

This week I installed W1809 by clicking on “Check for updates”, went without problems – not mentioning percentage counter, which suddenly fell prom 54 to 48%, quite scary it was and behold! New start menu again! Isn’t there enything else which is worth recreating? Their goal is to make money, not good OS.

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The Verge don’t deserve any respect. They’re still in denial after their “How to build a PC” video that was a trainwreck. Waited five months then tried to DMCA strike YouTubers who explained why it was bad content…

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I remember their “How to build a PC video” is was comically bad and served as an example of how NOT to build a computer. It surprises me just how badly someone can mess up the process. It’s amazing their computer turned on at all.

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doriel

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I found that video today and it made my day Firts installing PSU, so all cables are touchning MB Thermal paste all over the motherboard, RAM completely ignoring dual-channels, glass door and zero cable management is this PSU really upside down?

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johnf

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My favourite was installing the PSU in a particular orientation because it grounded properly and prevented electric shocks. It also blocked the fan off.

A couple of the well known YT tech channels offered to collaborate on doing a quality replacement video with The Verge and they just buried their head in the sand in denial.

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Please stay on-topic: Win10 1809, Feb CU KB4482887 Preview consequences.

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Terring wrote:

“Get Windows 10 for the maximum gaming experience”. They don’t even respect the gamers anymore.

Since you asked: “any mistake” should be changed to “any mistakes” or “a mistake”.

GreatAndPowerfulTech

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Terring

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887 has done multiple downloads on 3 PCs.   Delete the new ones and they simply reappear.

Wagonman

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https://www.ghacks.net has a post regarding KB4482887 :

Enable Retpoline on Windows 10 1809 and Server right now

Microsoft has tested Retpoline, a new mitigation method against Spectre variant 2 (by Google?), on Windows 10 Insider Builds for some time now. The company brought Retpoline to Windows 10 version 1809 by including it in the March 1 cumulative update KB4482887 for the version of Windows 10…

“When all relevant kernel-mode binaries are compiled with retpoline, we’ve measured ~25% speedup in Office app launch times and up to 1.5-2x improved throughput in the Diskspd (storage) and NTttcp (networking) benchmarks on Broadwell CPUs in our lab.”

Retpoline is not enabled by default on production devices even though it is included in the March 1 update. Microsoft plans to roll out the mitigation over the course of the coming months…

https://www.ghacks.net/2019/03/06/enable-retpoline-on-windows-10-1809-and-server-right-now/

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One game I really like “Fallout: New Vegas” has had various mods broken because of Windows 10. Windows 10 just is not friendly towards older games like it used to be. But then again, I supposed this is to be expected. You’re trying to run a 10 year old piece of software on an OS it wasn’t made for, so it’s reasonable to expect problems.

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It’s also reasonable to expect a new OS to be backwards-compatible so that you don’t have to replace your entire software library every time a new version of the OS is forcibly patched – i.e. every 6 months in the case of Windows 10.

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lanceboil, lurks about, Elly

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Only in your dreams…When Win. 10 came out I boxed up a couple hundred dollars of software and donated it to Good Will.

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Not so much in my dreams as in my past experience. I’ve never had to replace software when upgrading to new versions of Windows up to and including Windows 7.

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Has ‘Compatibility Mode’ stopped working in 1809?

Lugh.
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wait a minute  1903 is about to be released anytime and 1809 isn’t ready yet?!

what is Microsoft thinking?

Just someone who don't want Windows to mess with its computer.

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1809 is starting to have the feel of being the current “Windows ME” of Windows 10. If both 1803 and 1903 are competent like both Windows 98 SE and Windows XP were, then 1809 will be truly be one of the occasional duds that Microsoft releases.

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Zaphyrus

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sadly  when october comes by we won’t have a choice but to install 1809

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The only game I have is Simcity 4 Deluxe Edition. I’ve downloaded and installed this update, tested the game (both vanilla and modded) and not a single drop in performance. So far so good. At least this old game has not been affected. If something changes, I’ll let you know.

I miss Windows XP...

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Your English seems almost perfect to me! I would personally prefer not a single drop “in” performance to not a single drop “of” performance, and that’s for UK English rather than US English :)!

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Yes, “drop in performance”; “drop in temperature” is another example.

Windows 10 Home 22H2, Acer Aspire TC-1660 desktop + LibreOffice, non-techie

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Terring

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woody wrote:

Is the problem confined to games?

Not clear who you’re asking, as KB4482887 is still “Hold for now” on the Master Patch List.

(I don’t play games, so I can’t make a comparison; but I haven’t noticed any “crazy clobbering” of other apps over the last five days.)

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Hm, so is it supposed to be in or off…? Now you confused a poor anonymous reader… sorry

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b

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You SHOULDN’T install any of the “optional non-security” Win10 second monthly cumulative updates. There’s no upside to it — no benefit — and lots of downside, as evidenced here.

If you follow my instructions in the Computerworld articles, or look at Susan’s Patch Watch, you’ll see.

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Train Simulator (Dovetail Games) is stuttering a bit more frequently than before with frame rates going from 56-60 fps to 14 fps for one or two seconds. But nothing more than that, and Microsoft’s own Jigsaw, etc., games are unaffected except for more ads for slot machine and hidden object games than months earlier.

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Hi all,

Microsoft has just posted an acknowledgement of the bug. I will post here:

Symptom:

After installing KB4482887, users may notice graphics and mouse performance degradation with desktop gaming when playing certain games (eg: Destiny 2).

Workaround:

Microsoft is working on a resolution and will provide an update in an upcoming release.
As a short-term resolution, users can uninstall KB4482887 to regain performance.

Not a very satisfying answer…although do see this as high-priority and expect Microsoft to rectify it Patch Tuesday next week.

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UPDATE: Microsoft finally acknowledged the problem on Wednesday:

After installing KB4482887, users may notice graphics and mouse performance degradation with desktop gaming when playing certain games (eg: Destiny 2).

Microsoft is working on a resolution and will provide an update in an upcoming release.

As a short-term resolution, users can uninstall KB4482887 to regain performance.

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CADesertRat, Elly, Microfix

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and Liam Tung over at ZDNet has a nice shout-out to da Boss

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Elly, Microfix

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Gordon Kelly at Forbes talks about your article also.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2019/03/09/microsoft-windows-10-upgrade-problem-price-cost-update/#310e244b4364

Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does
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Interesting! Because the KB 4482887 update helped my graphic experience dramatically. For instance, before the update, playing Metro Exodus was a tragic for me. I had constant lagging. Even to a point, it would be unplayable at all. My gaming rig is I7 CPU, 8 gig ram, 1080 founders card. I use my TCL 6 series 55 inch TV as my monitor. Gaming in 4K but currently 1440k for Metro Exodus. This update fixed all the issues I was having before. Especially in her mode in Battlefield V. Man I am so glad for this. I’m going to keep this update for now. But the gaming issues that people are experiencing is not what I’m experiencing on my rig. Which I find odd.

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