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    I just installed these Windows 10 22H2 November patches:
    .NET Framework KB KB5032339
    .NET 6.0.25 5032883
    CU KB5032189 (Build 10.0.19045.3693)
    MSRT v. 5.119 (for November).

    I understand the Remote Desktop Connection is a new app that is supposed to be installed with the November patches.

    But, why are these 4 Windows App Runtime’s also installed. Are they somehow connected to the fact that the Remote Desktop Connection app is now installed??
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    • #2608852

      Except for .Net 6.0.25 (used by an app I use) and remote desktop I have none of the other updates.
      You have probably some software require these updates.

      DDLM is connected to app SDK package.

      • #2608900

        I have installed no new software since the last two Patch Tuesday updates, i.e., not since the one for October and not since the one for November.

        These 4 apps were not installed in the October update, and ImgBurn was the only software that had been installed before the October update. So, that software could not be what is causing these 4 apps to appear. If it were, the 4 apps would have appeared in the Oct update. But, they didn’t. And no software has been installed since the October update.

        So, I don’t see how any software could be causing them to appear. Not unless it is some software installed some time ago is just now triggering the installation of these 4 apps.

      • #2608903

        And I have no SDK packages, according to ASoft .NET Version Detector 22 R2:
        ASoft-NET-Version-Detector-results

        There must be some other explanation for the presence of these 4 apps after the November update.

        Either that or the ASoft .NET Version Detector 22 R2 is not equipped to find any SDK that these apps might be connected to.

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        • #2608994

          What is Windows App SDK

          Nothing to do with .NET

          • #2609037

            The best I can understand from your link is that the 4 apps in question were written, using the Windows App Software Development Kit (SDK) by some software developer who is responsible for having written some piece of software that is working on my machine. But, it doesn’t help me figure out what Windows App Runtime is, what Windows App Runtime DDLM 3000.882.2270.0-x6 is, or what Windows App Runtime DDLM 3000.882.2270.0-x8 is, or what Windows App Runtime.Test.DynDep.Data.Store is?

            I have these four apps in Apps & features after the November patch on both of my laptops that are DELL Inspirons. I did not have them before the November patch. I have not added any new software between the October patch and the November patch. So some piece of software that existed before the October patch is now after the November patch needing these apps to run for some reason.

            Does anyone else with a DELL Inspiron, besides me, have them??

            • #2609084

              Does anyone else with a DELL Inspiron, besides me, have them??

              Hi WCHS:

              I have a Dell Inspiron 5584 / Win 10 Pro v22H2 laptop and received the new Remote Desktop Connection app with my Nov 2023 Patch Tuesday updates.

              I don’t have anything named “Windows App Runtime. ..” on my system.  Microsoft .NET Runtime v6.0.25 – x64 is a remnant of Dell SupportAssist v3.x (which I uninstalled back in March 2023 ***; I now use Dell Update for Windows Universal v5.x to check for available Dell software and driver updates) that I haven’t bothered uninstalling.  My Microsoft Windows Desktop Runtime v7.0.14 – x64 (which includes Microsoft .NET Runtime v7.0.14) is required for a program I installed called QuickInstaller (Preview) v0.2.x.  I don’t know what program requires Microsoft .NET Core Runtime v3.1.32 – x64 but I believe this .NET Core Runtime v3.1.x – x64 first appeared in my Windows Update history in back in Sept 2022.

              Win-10-Pro-v22H2-Settings-Apps-and-Features-All-Runtimes-06-Dec-2023

              *** Note that I also uninstalled Dell SupportAssist OS Recovery (also known as Dell SupportAssist Remediation / System Repair) in March 2023
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              Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3693 * Firefox v120.0.1 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23100.2009-1.1.23100.2009 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.6.294-1.0.2201 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7690 * Dell Update for Windows Universal v5.1.0 * My Dell v2.2.6.0 * Fusion Service v2.2.14.0 * QuickInstaller Preview v0.2.8734.36059

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            • #2609284

              Hi @lmacri,
              There’s more to the name of that “Windows App Runtime. ..” app, I discovered.
              Microsoft-Windows-App-Runtime

              As far as this one goes, I haven’t noticed any new push notifications. Maybe, it’s connected to an app whose notifications I have turned off at Settings>System>Notifications & actions. Do you think I might be able to find out which app this “Windows App Runtime … “ is connected to, if I were to experiment by turning the “off” ones “on”?

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            • #2609490

              Do you think I might be able to find out which app this “Windows App Runtime … “ is connected to, if I were to experiment by turning the “off” ones “on”?

              Hi WCHS:

              Further to RetiredGeek’s post # 2609299, my best guess is that some or all components of the Windows App SDK 1.3 have been installed on your computer. You don’t normally need the full SDK (software developers kit) unless you are a software developer creating your own apps (e.g., using the Visual Studio IDE) – as an end user all you normally need is the runtime to run the compiled software. According to the MS Learn article Remove outdated Windows App SDK runtime versions from your development computer the “Windows App SDK runtime includes the Framework, Main, Singleton, and Dynamic Dependency Lifetime Manager (DDLM) packages” so I assume that’s what the “DDLM” stands for in the images of your Windows App Runtime DDLMs.

              I don’t know anything about the Windows App SDK 1.3 or why components were installed on your system but I doubt that toggling notifications on/off for your apps will tell you much. You would probably have to disable (if possible) or uninstall all the components of the Windows App SDK 1.3 from your system and see what software, if any, fails to run. As RetireGeek suggested, if you’re going to start uninstalling these SDK components from your system just make sure you’ve create a full disk image with disk imaging software (I use Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.x) so you can re-image your entire hard drive if something goes wrong.
              __________________________

              It’s normal to have services for Windows Push Notifications running in the background on a Win 10 computer so that apps can display pop-up notifications in the system tray (see the Malwaretips article Windows Push Notifications User Service Process Explained) so just for reference I’ll post some images of what I see on my own Dell Inspiron 5584 / Win 10 Pro v22H2 machine.

              Here’s the “normal” Windows Push Notifications services I have running in the background in my Windows Services and Task Manager.

              Win-10-Pro-v22H2-Services-Windows-Push-Notifications-Services-Running-07-Dec-2023

              Win-10-Pro-v22H2-Task-Manager-Windows-Push-Notifications-Services-Running-07-Dec-2023

              If I open an elevated command prompt and enter winget list WinAppRuntime that command doesn’t find a match for a Windows App Runtime DDLM on my Inspiron 5584 …

              Win-10-Pro-v22H2-Command-Prompt-winget-list-WinAppRuntime-07-Dec-2023

              … but if I run TreeSize Free as an Administrator and view the contents of my Win UWP (Microsoft Store) apps in the hidden and protected C:\Program Files\WindowsApps folder I see I have folders for Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.1.3_3000.934.1904.0_x86_8wekyb3d8bbwe and Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.1.3_3000.934.1904.0_x64_8wekyb3d8bbwe that were last modified on 26-Sep-2023. If I sort the entire contents of that C:\Program Files\WindowsApps folder in TreeSize Free by the “Last Modified” date the only thing I notice is that files were also updated in the Microsoft.WindowsAlarms_11.2306.23.0_x64_8wekyb3d8bbwe folder (my built-in Windows Alarms and Clock app?) on 26-Sep-2023, but I don’t think that’s relevant.

              TreeSize-Free-v4_7_0-Program-Files-WindowsApps-Windows-App-Runtime-07-Dec-2023

              My Sep 2023 Patch Tuesday Updates ran two weeks earlier on 13-Apr-2023 and as far as I know Windows Update didn’t install anything on my system on 26-Sep-2023 except the usual daily update(s) for my Microsoft Defender virus definitions.

              According to my notes, on 26-Sep-2023 I had two portable apps (HDCleaner Portable and UCheck Portable), my Firefox browser, and my uBlock Origin for Firefox browser extension update that day. There’s no installed software at Control Panel Programs | Programs and Features that still has an “Installed On” date of 26-Sep-2023 so I can’t tell you if the update of any of those apps also updated the Windows App Runtime on my system at the same time.
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              Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3693 * Firefox v120.0.1 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23100.2009-1.1.23100.2009 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.6.294-1.0.2201 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7690 * Dell Update for Windows Universal v5.1.0 * My Dell v2.2.6.0 * Fusion Service v2.2.14.0 * TreeSize Free Portable v4.7.1.525

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    • #2609299

      Per Microsoft:

      Windows App SDK
      The Windows App SDK provides a unified set of APIs and tools that are decoupled from the OS and released to developers via NuGet packages. These APIs and tools can be used in a consistent way by any desktop app on Windows 11 and downlevel to Windows 10, version 1809.

      So it’s just another Application Programming Interface library used by developers of Windows Store apps. I wouldn’t worry about it as apparently you have an app on your machine that requires it.

      If it really bugs you your could image your C: drive then delete the item and see if anything breaks. Then you’ll know what caused it to be downloaded and decide if you want to keep it in which case you just restore your image or if you don’t want it just uninstall the app and continue on.

      May the Forces of good computing be with you!

      RG

      PowerShell & VBA Rule!
      Computer Specs

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    • #2609552

      Hi @lmacri:
      Thanks for your reply; I have a better understanding of Windows Push Notifications now, namely that:
      1) In Services, I see the same ‘Windows Push Notifications’ entries that you show in your Services screenshot.
      2) In TaskManager>Processes, I see the same ‘Service Host: Windows Push Notifications’ entries that you show in your TaskManager screenshot.
      So, nothing is unusual here.

      I am also beginning to understand what these 4 entries in Apps & features signify:
      1) Apparently, there was an SDK installed, specifically SDK 1.3, on Dec 4, the date I installed the November patches.
      2) I ran the command prompt winget list WindowsAppRuntime. It shows me the components of SDK 1.3 that were installed: Main, Singleton, and DDLM. The link you provide lists ‘Framework’ as well, but I don’t see that component listed. {P.S. I have a question about this command prompt, which is #7}
      command-prompt-winget-list-WindowsAppRuntime

      3) In TreeSize, I also see the package components of the SDK 1.3 package:
      TreeSize-Program-Files_WindowsApps-SDK-Dec-04
      I see that there is a ‘McAfeeWPSSparsePackage…” entry among the entries for the SDK 1.3 components. {I run McAfee A/V, but I have Defender do periodic checks for scans.} I wonder if McAfee is responsible for this SDK 1.3 package? In fact, I just discovered that I have a new version of McAfee on my machine. It no longer has an icon in my System Tray. I can run it from the Start Menu, though, and it looks like it is a new, limited subscription. (The McAfee A/V I had before came from my ISP provider, free and unlimited, but it looks like the one I have now is a different one, expiring in a few days!)

      4) I think I am beginning to understand why these SDK components were installed, if they, in fact, are connected to the McAfee A/V app. Does it mean that it’s possible for some instructions to reach my machine somehow that could access this SDK, put together a set of instructions from the SDK, compile them, and run a Runtime program to execute them on the spot?

      5) I am not sure if there is now a program compiled from this SDK 1.3 for a Runtime app to run. Or did I just get the SDK and no program that was compiled from it? In connection with this question, here is more information about the last one entry in Apps & features: It’s full name is Windows App Runtime.Test.DynDep.DataStore (version 3000.882.2207.0). It’s version number is similar to the version numbers of the DDLMs, the Package Manager Source, and the Runtime Push Notifications Task . Is it a SDK component, too? Or is it a program compiled from this SDK?

      6) What are these? Are they compiled apps (in contrast to an SDK app)? None of them have a date of Dec 4, 2023. It looks like they been on my machine for sometime.
      TreeSize-Microsoft-WindowsAppRuntime-.x.x

      7) Running the command prompt winget list WindowsAppRuntime generated a question for me to answer before I could get the results and produced another app in Apps & features (full name is Windows Package Manager Source (winget) )!! You can see the question in 2) above. Can I uninstall this now that I’ve seen the results and don’t need to use it anymore?
      Windows-Package-Manager-Source

      Lots of questions here, I know, in trying to figure out what’s going on.

      • #2609838

        … I see that there is a ‘McAfeeWPSSparsePackage…” entry among the entries for the SDK 1.3 components. {I run McAfee A/V, but I have Defender do periodic checks for scans.} I wonder if McAfee is responsible for this SDK 1.3 package? In fact, I just discovered that I have a new version of McAfee on my machine. It no longer has an icon in my System Tray. I can run it from the Start Menu, though, and it looks like it is a new, limited subscription….

        Hi WCHS:

        As I said before, I know very little about the Windows App SDKs so most of my comments below are just speculation.

        I uninstalled the trial McAfee LiveSafe v16.x security program that shipped with my Dell Inspiron 5584 (and all the other McAfee software that came with it like McAfee WebAdvisor, McAfee Virtual Technician, the McAfee Personal Security UWP, etc.) and no longer use any McAfee products but it sounds like McAfee is in the process of migrating customers from WSS (Web Security Suite?) to cloud-based WPS (Web Protection Suite) versions of their antivirus – see ebrac7’s 19-Sep-2023 McAfee Total Protection WSS vs. WPS for one discussion in the McAfee forum.

        Your first TreeSize Free image of your hidden and protected C:\Program File\WindowsApps folder shows that McAfeeWPSSparsePackage_1.0.0.0_neutral_1ez856j3kr9ae module was was last updated on 04-Dec-2023, and it could have something something to do with McAfee’s migration of customers to WPS.  That McAfee module was last modified within seconds of your “mystery” Windows App Runtime DDLM modules that appeared on 04-Dec-2023 in Settings | Apps | Apps and Features, but that could just be a coincidence. Your best bet may be to post about this in the McAfee forum or contact McAfee Customer Support and ask if all these Windows App SDK 1.3 runtime DDLM modules are related to your McAfee software and if it is safe to remove them once you’ve been migrated to the new WPS version of McAfee. It’s a nuisance having these runtime DDLM modules clutter up your Settings | Apps | Apps and Features but they’re only using a few KBs of disk space so I’d suggest you just leave them alone until you know why they were installed.

        Further to you question 6, I have those same x86 and x64 Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.1.2_2000.x and Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.1.3_3000.x entries in C:\Program File\WindowsApps (see the TreeSize Free image in my post # 2609490), and it looks like you have also have the newer Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.1.4_4000.x versions that I don’t have (perhaps because I uninstalled Dell SupportAssist and Dell SupportAssist OS Recovery back in March 2023??). I don’t know their exact purpose but they aren’t listed as UWP (Microsoft Store) apps at Settings | Apps | Apps and Features on my computer. My best guess it that they’re just “helper” APPx (Windows Application Package) modules that include files and credentials required to distribute, install and run some Universal Windows Platform (UWP) apps – see my 22-Feb-2023 in post in HeyTony’s brand new XPS17 issues with locking up, blue screen and update of SupportAssist in the Dell SupportAssist for PCs board for more information about “helper” APPx modules.
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        Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3693 * Firefox v120.0.1 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23110.3-1.1.23110.2 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.6.294-1.0.2201 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7690 * Dell Update for Windows Universal v5.1.0 * My Dell v2.2.6.0 * Fusion Service v2.2.14.0

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        • #2609923

          @lmacri:
          Thanks for helping me out on this — I think I have a firmer grounding in my understanding of 1) apps that create apps and 2) apps that are created by them and 3) helper modules.

          Yes, my next step is to post questions about this in the McAfee forum. I’ve already posted something in the AT&T internet forum (not understanding that I could post something in the McAfee forum even though I don’t have a direct subscription to a McAfee product; my subscription to McAfee is provided by my AT&T provider. The McAfee A/V subscription is good as long as I get my internet service from AT&T and as long as AT&T pays its monthly contract fee to McAfee. Normally, McAfee Customer Service will not answer my questions; they say “Ask AT&T and AT&T will call us, if it doesn’t know the answer”. But, I’m going to try the McAfee forum next.

          • #2610073

            … my subscription to McAfee is provided by my AT&T provider…

            Hi WCHS:

            In that case you can post questions in the McAfee forum once you’ve created a user account, but I don’t if you’ll find any useful information there if you’re using an AT&T-branded antivirus. If you’re lucky AT&T employees will sometimes respond to questions about McAfee software in the AT&T Internet Security board (see MaxEntropy’s Aug 2022 McAfee Software for one example).

            I live in Canada so I’m not familiar with AT&T offerings but a quick search of the AT&T support site suggests they’re in the process of moving customer from older products like McAfee Security Suite over to AT&T AntiVirus Plus (powered by McAfee). What antivirus product do you currently have on your computer?

            The AT&T support article Explore AT&T AntiVirus Plus has a link to “free online support” that appears to open the McAfee Virtual Technician on the McAfee site, and that support article also suggests doing a pre-installation cleanup before installing AT&T AntiVirus Plus. A clean reinstall might be something to consider if you suspect you’re being migrated to AT&T AntiVirus Plus (powered by McAfee) and something went wrong.

            I had a similar issue when I was using the 1-year trial of McAfee LiveSafe that shipped with my Dell Inspiron 5584 (neither company would provide support) so I simply wiped it off my system with the McAfee Consumer Product Removal (MCPR) tool and now use Microsoft Defender as my primary antivirus.  My own Shaw (Canada) ISP used to provide customers with a free subscription to McAfee Internet Security (which I never used) but that offer was discontinued in July 2023 and Shaw now advises <here> that customers use the built-in Microsoft Defender.
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            Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3693 * Firefox v120.0.1 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23110.3-1.1.23110.2 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.6.294-1.0.2201 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7690 * Dell Update for Windows Universal v5.1.0 * My Dell v2.2.6.0 * Fusion Service v2.2.14.0

      • #2610075

        … 7) Running the command prompt winget list WindowsAppRuntime generated a question for me to answer before I could get the results and produced another app in Apps & features (full name is Windows Package Manager Source (winget) )…. Can I uninstall this now that I’ve seen the results and don’t need to use it anymore?

        Hi WCHS:

        Further to n0ads’ post # 2609718, I don’t recall seeing that Y/N prompt the first time I ran winget on my Win 10 machine, but I might be wrong about that. According to Ed Tittle’s 19-Jan-2023 Computerworld article Winget: The best way to keep Windows apps updated ComputerWorld article (a good beginner’s guide for winget users) “winget is included with Windows 10 version 1709 and later and all versions of Windows 11 as the App Installer“.  When I go to Settings | Apps | Apps and Features on my Win 10 Pro v22H2 laptop at Settings | Apps | Apps and Features both the App Installer and Windows Package Manager Source (winget) UWPs are listed there.

        Winget can be a useful tool once you’re familiar with a few basic commands so I would advise you keep it. For example, if you open an elevated command prompt and enter winget list >”%userprofile%\Desktop\wingetlist.txt” it will create a text file on your Windows desktop that lists the names and currently version numbers of the installed programs (including Windows UWP apps) on your computer; the command winget upgrade >”%userprofile%\Desktop\wingetupgrade.txt” will create a list of programs supported by winget that have an available update. I ran the second command today and the attached wingetupgrade.txt file shows there is a v12.1.0.0 update available for my current Belarc Advisor v12.0.0.0 software.

        Attached: wingetupgrade
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        Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3693 * Firefox v120.0.1 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23110.3-1.1.23110.2 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.6.294-1.0.2201 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7690 * Dell Update for Windows Universal v5.1.0 * My Dell v2.2.6.0 * Fusion Service v2.2.14.0

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          Running winget upgrade >”%userprofile%\Desktop\wingetupgrade.txt” I got a list of 5 upgrades. Apart for Belarc I don’t know what to do with the other 4.

          Belarc Advisor 12.0 Belarc.Advisor 12.0.0.0 12.1 winget

          App Installer Microsoft.AppInstaller 1.21.2771.0 1.21.3133.0 winget

          Windows PC Health Check Microsoft.WindowsPCHealthCheck 3.6.2204.08001 3.7.2204.15001 winget

          Microsoft Visual C++ 2013 Redistributable (x64) – … Microsoft.VCRedist.2013.x64 12.0.21005.1 12.0.40664.0 winget

          Microsoft Visual C++ 2013 Redistributable (x86) – … Microsoft.VCRedist.2013.x86 12.0.21005.1 12.0.40664.0 winget

          5 upgrades available.

          • #2610322

            Why apps and features doesn’t have an update settings ?

            Apps on Microsoft store doesn’t show apps versions.

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            • #2610366

              Why apps and features doesn’t have an update settings ?

              Hi Alex5723:

              I’m guessing that Microsoft doesn’t feel there’s a need for an update button because Universal Windows Platform (UWP / Microsoft Store) apps that are listed at Settings | Apps | Apps and Features are automatically updated in the background by the Microsoft Store. These UWP app updates are logged in the Reliability Monitor as well as the Library tab of your Microsoft Store app (see attached images).

              Apps on Microsoft store doesn’t show apps versions.

              I have no idea why Microsoft does this. Not being able to see the latest version number of a UWP app offered in the Microsoft Store is an annoying omission that’s a pet peeve of mine.
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              Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3693 * Firefox v120.0.1 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23110.3-1.1.23110.2 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.6.294-1.0.2201 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7690 * Dell Update for Windows Universal v5.1.0 * My Dell v2.2.6.0 * Fusion Service v2.2.14.0

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          • #2610360

            … According to Ed Tittle’s 19-Jan-2023 Computerworld article Winget: The best way to keep Windows apps updated ComputerWorld article (a good beginner’s guide for winget users) …

            Running winget upgrade >”%userprofile%\Desktop\wingetupgrade.txt” I got a list of 5 upgrades. Apart for Belarc I don’t know what to do with the other 4.

            Hi Alex5723:

            How to update applications using winget is a bit off-topic but you can find more information in the section titled “Winget’s star subcommand: upgrade” in Ed Tittle’s Winget: The best way to keep Windows apps updated. I only use winget to list available updates (winget upgrade) but I’ve never used it to perform the actual update(s) (e.g., winget upgrade –all) so please note that Ed’s article recommends running these commands from a PowerShell window with Administrator rights rather than an elevated command prompt.

            The Microsoft Learn article upgrade command (winget) has sample commands (e.g., winget upgrade –id Belarc.Advisor) for updating a specific application. The 29-Jan-2023 WindowsCentral article Windows Package Manager is so good I won’t use anything else now and the 23-May-2023 XDA Developers article How to use Windows Package Manager (winget) on Windows 11 are other good resources.

            If you don’t want to use a command-line utility like PowerShell there is a tool called WingetUI on Marti Climents’ GitHub page at https://github.com/marticliment/WingetUI that has a user-friendly graphical user interface. I’ve never tried WingetUI but I know of several ex-SUMo users who don’t use portable apps and now use this tool to manage their installed applications.  See the WindowsClub review at WingetUI is a free GUI tool for WINGET to Bulk Install, Uninstall, Update Programs and BetaNews review at WingetUI update makes it even easier to use Windows Package Manage with a GUI.
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            Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3693 * Firefox v120.0.1 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23110.3-1.1.23110.2 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.6.294-1.0.2201 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7690 * Dell Update for Windows Universal v5.1.0 * My Dell v2.2.6.0 * Fusion Service v2.2.14.0

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            • #2610422

              Winget Update –All failed installing C++

              Managed to update App Installer and PC Health.

            • #2610480

              Winget Update –All failed installing C++ Managed to update App Installer and PC Health.

              Hi Alex5723:

              As I said, I don’t use winget to install updates so if you have questions or comments about the failed updates for your Microsoft Visual C++ 2013 Redistributables you might want to start a new topic and ask someone who has more experience with these winget commands than I do.

              The only reason I posted the third image in my 07-Dec-2023 post # 2609284 (i.e., my results for the command winget list WinAppRuntime) was to show the OP WCHS that Windows Update did not install or deliver updates for any Windows App Runtime DDLM v3000.x components on my Dell Inspiron / Win 10 v22H2 machine during the Nov 2023 Patch Tuesday updates. That suggests that WCHS’ Windows App SDK 1.3 components were installed on their Dell Inspiron / Win 10 v22H2 machine by a third-party program that isn’t installed on my own Inspiron laptop. Whether that’s their AT&T-branded McAfee antivirus, a newer version of a Dell utility like SupportAssist v3.14.x or Dell SupportAssist OS Recovery v5.5.x that I’ve removed from my Inspiron 5584 laptop, or some other third-party program we haven’t even discussed yet is still unknown at this time.
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              Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3693 * Firefox v120.0.1 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23110.3-1.1.23110.2 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.6.294-1.0.2201 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7690 * Dell Update for Windows Universal v5.1.0 * My Dell v2.2.6.0 * Fusion Service v2.2.14.0

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            • #2610577

              That suggests that WCHS’ Windows App SDK 1.3 components were installed on their Dell Inspiron / Win 10 v22H2 machine by a third-party program that isn’t installed on my own Inspiron laptop. Whether that’s their AT&T-branded McAfee antivirus, a newer version of a Dell utility like SupportAssist v3.14.x or Dell SupportAssist OS Recovery v5.5.x that I’ve removed from my Inspiron 5584 laptop, or some other third-party program …is still unknown at this time


              @lmacri
              ,
              Just to let you know about Support Assist and Dell SupportAssist OS Recovery (and Dell SA Remediation):
              Both my SupportAssist app version {new one on Oct 16} and my Dell OS Recovery Tools driver (which installs the Dell SA Remediation app {new one in Oct 23}) have remained the same ever since the date before the October Windows CU installed on Nov 6. And when the October Windows CU installed, there were no SDK files/components/apps appearing in Apps & features.

              And before the November Windows CU installed on Dec 4, the SupportAssist app version and the Dell SA Remediation app version remained the same (they are still the same today). But, when the November Windows CU installed, those SDK files/components/apps appeared in Apps & features.

              Given this timeline of both the Windows CUs and the absence of any change in the versions of the SupportAssist app and Dell SA OS Recovery Tools driver /Dell SA Remediation app, it doesn’t seem to me that SupportAssist or Dell OS Recovery Tools/Dell SA Remediation has anything to do with the appearance of these SDK files/components/apps in Apps & features.

              There’s still the new AT&T-branded McAfee A/V (McAfee VirusScan Plus, which has replaced McAfee Internet Security) and some other third-party program to consider. I don’t have a lot of third-party programs that I have installed: *7+ Taskbar Tweaker v5.15, Absolute Notifier, *Adobe Acrobat, CDBurner XP, Cisco Webex Meetings, doPDF 7.3 printer, Dropbox, ImgBurn, Irfan View 4.44, *iTunes, Libby, LibreOffice, Messenger, *Firefox, *Thunderbird, PrimoPDF, TreeSize, +TurboTax, WD apps for my external drives, WinNc, and Zoom.
              *new dates before the November Windows update for old apps. +new app TurboTax 2023 installed before the November Windows update (only new app); all other TurboTax yearly apps are old installs. P.S. Now that I’ve reviewed the third-party apps I have, the new TurboTax 2023 app might be a candidate for being responsible for these new SDK apps in Apps & features.

              I’ve noted your comment elsewhere that these SDK files/components/apps in Apps & features do not take up much space so I’m going to put the question of where they have come from on the back burner. In the meantime, I’m up for learning more about winget, how these SDK components work (I’ve notice that when they update, in come cases, the name changes), and what Windows App Runtime(s) an SDK creates.

              And another note: Yesterday, Microsoft Stores updated two SDK components in my first post so that the 1st one (Microsoft Windows App Runtime Push Notifications Task 12/04/2023) is now Microsoft App Runtime Singleton 12/09/2023 and the last one (Microsoft App Runtime.Test.DynDep.DataStore) has a new date 12/09/2023.

            • #2610721

              I have TurboTax 2023 Premier installed and I do not see any of the runtimes you found in Apps & Features.

              I hope this helps narrow down where they came from.

               

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            • #2610486

              WinGetUI recently updated those C++ files (amongst many others) for me without issues.

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          • #2610379

            Windows PC Health Check Microsoft.WindowsPCHealthCheck 3.6.2204.08001 3.7.2204.15001 winget

            Hi Alex5723:

            I forgot to mention that the Windows PC Health Check utility is listed on my Win 10 machine at Control Panel | Programs | Programs and Features and it is updated by Windows Update when necessary as KB5005463.  See the second half of my 17-Sep-2023 post # 2587904 in Kobac’s KB4023057 and Cee Arr’s 21-Oct-2021 topic KB5005463 for more information.

            I currently have v3.6.2204.08001 of this utility and according to my Windows Update history (Other Updates section) my last KB5005463 update was delivered on 28-Apr-2022. PC Health Check is used by Microsoft to see if my Win 10 machine is eligible to be upgraded to Win 11 and I  assume that Windows Update will eventually deliver a newer KB5005463 to update me to the v3.7.2204.15001 detected by winget if and when it’s required.
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            Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3693 * Firefox v120.0.1 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23110.3-1.1.23110.2 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.6.294-1.0.2201 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7690 * Dell Update for Windows Universal v5.1.0 * My Dell v2.2.6.0 * Fusion Service v2.2.14.0

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    • #2609718

      Windows Package Manager Source (winget) is the actual winget app.

      As for the [Y] Yes [N] No prompt, that only happens the first time you run the winget app (i.e. it was installed from the MS Store.)

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      • #2609914

        Windows Package Manager Source (winget) is the actual winget app.

        So, now that the app has produced the info I was looking for, can I uninstall the app if I don’t need it anymore?

        As a matter of fact, if I had thought about @lmacri’s post more deeply, I would have probably understood that I could use TreeSize to find out the same thing that the Windows Package Manager Source (winget) app had told me.

        • #2610419

          So, now that the app has produced the info I was looking for, can I uninstall the app if I don’t need it anymore?

          For readers who are following the winget discussion in this topic, the answer to my ‘uninstalling’ question is part of a post above from @lmacri. More about winget follows this post above.

    • #2610605

      WinGetUI recently updated those C++ files (amongst many others) for me without issues.

      Pity its an installer and not portable.

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