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    I have given up on IFW: too complicated for me, for my simple use. Thank you bbearen and Paul T for all your efforts.

    I tried Minitool too: it failed in backing up all .pst, .nst and.ost files in /users…/AppData/…Outlook !!

    I am trying Macrium Reflect 8 on both pc’s. On the Win11 pc, I noticed a reference to Bitlocker again. I have no idea what to do with this, not its purpose, nor if I even need it. Can I get rid of it? How without affecting everything else?

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    • #2463970

      I tried Minitool too: it failed in backing up all .pst, .nst and.ost files in /users…/AppData/…Outlook

      If you did an image backup it will pick up those files.
      If you do a files backup it will not – that is correct for a file backup.

      Tell us what you did and we’ll walk you through MiniTool. (MR will be too complex for you – it’s very “techy”)

      cheers, Paul

    • #2463993

      I did an image, looked at what was backed up there, not all of those files were included. I have been in touch with support but they could not help, suggested many things, none of which helped.

    • #2464025

      An image is the entire disk – nothing is excluded except swap and hibernation files, because they are very large temporary files that contain no data of value.

      Did you get any errors when you did the backup?

      cheers, Paul

    • #2464085

      I did screen shots of the image file as well as of Windows explorer. see attached. No errors reported.AppData-details-2
      AppData-details

    • #2464099

      D’nt know why the screen shots do not appear. Trying again:

    • #2464102

      As you see, the gmail info is not backed up.

    • #2464138

      OST files are being excluded. These are offline copies of data on the mail server and do not need to be backed up – they will be downloaded when you next connect to the mail server.

      If you look in the MiniTool setting you will find an exclusion list. You can edit this if you want.

      cheers, Paul

    • #2464158

      OK, I’ll keep trying. I do not find the settings link. Only the attached in the backup options

    • #2464252

      OST files seem to be a hard coded exclusion from an image backup.
      If you really want the OST files, make a file backup of the Outlook data folder.

      cheers, Paul

    • #2464298

      I have given up on IFW: too complicated for me, for my simple use. Thank you bbearen and Paul T for all your efforts. I tried Minitool too: it failed in backing up all .pst, .nst and.ost files in /users…/AppData/…Outlook !! I am trying Macrium Reflect 8 on both pc’s. On the Win11 pc, I noticed a reference to Bitlocker again. I have no idea what to do with this, not its purpose, nor if I even need it. Can I get rid of it? How without affecting everything else?


      @Ken
      , can you start a new thread in one of the other Backup Topics?

      This Topic is about installation and use of Image for Windows, not Minitool or any other imaging software.

      Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
      We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
      We were all once "Average Users".

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    • #2464313

      I have given up on IFW: too complicated for me, for my simple use.

      Almost any software is complicated, including backup software. Learn software procedures, capabilities, and shortcomings.

      With backup software, you must learn how to backup and determine if the backup is successful and what it has backed up. You must also learn enough about your system to know when the computer system has failed and how and when your backup is required. This process requires knowing how to restore the backup to your computer system.

      Backup software and backing up requires and awareness of your computer system. The backup process is not “instant oatmeal” — and any backup package will require patience and effort to learn and implement intelligently and correctly.

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    • #2464387

       

      can you start a new thread in one of the other Backup Topics? This Topi

      Ok, I will: any way to transfer my recent post to a new topic? Any particular topic forum I should aim for – there are so many “backup” topics.

    • #2464412

      Any particular topic forum I should aim for – there are so many “backup” topics.

      Backup Programs is one that you started; seems appropriate.

      … any way to transfer my recent post to a new topic?

      Perhaps @Paul T could get that accomplished.

      Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
      We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
      We were all once "Average Users".

      • #2464500

        You could have done it as it was your suggestion.

        cheers, Paul

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    • #2464571

      Years ago when I was seeking a new image backup application (to replace the stock backup and restore for Windows 7), I downloaded the user manuals for several of the popular backup applications.

      There are several good programs out there, and usability comes down to personal preferences. So based strictly on personal comprehension, I decided to settle on the application that had the most understandable user manual.

      I have used several image applications in the past, so I was already familiar with the concept of imaging vs. file/folder backup.

      In the end the Macrium Reflect manual just clicked with me. I liked how they covered the various steps needed to accomplish each type of task, in a clear and understandable manner. And it works as a good reference if I ever need to brush up a “how-to”.

      And I have found that for me, a full file/folder backup is really not needed, as images can be mounted as disk volumes, and specific files can then be browsed with Windows explorer and then copied drag n drop directly from the image. However, the use of file/folder backups can be useful in between images, to backup any files you may have saved locally since the last image.

      Just my two cents. YMMV. 🙂

       

      Windows 10 Pro 22H2

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      • #2464610

        John,

        First of all, I am in total agreement with your choice. For me, of all the suppliers, Macrium inspires the most confidence. I also like the fact that they are based in the UK.

        I’m wondering how many downloadable manuals you found. I’ve looked at several sites offering free versions of backup tools, many of which had no apparent downloadable documentation, just URL pointers to web pages. Also, some product support forums showed a fair amount of trial and error in searching solutions. I don’t feel comfortable depending on a backup tool that sounds like it might work.

        Regards, Phil

    • #2464645

      I’m wondering how many downloadable manuals you found.

      I can’t recall specifically how many manuals I found. Many years and the fog of time have obscured those details, LOL!

      And I didn’t mention any other specific brands because I was deliberately avoiding making any reviews or pros/cons type of technical comparisons here. Was just elaborating on what worked out for me, and how I arrived at my decision.

      But I do recall that the 3 finalists for me with downloadable manuals were Acronis, Macrium, & Paragon. The manual + the forum clinched the deal. 🙂

      I was also probably avoiding any potentially sketchy totally free stuff, as in the past I have used the reliable PowerQuest Drive Image, Norton Ghost, Acronis True Image, and Microsoft’s backup and restore for Windows 7.

      Drive Image (PQDI) was a software disk cloning package for Intel-based computers. The software was developed and distributed by the former PowerQuest Corporation. Drive Image version 7 became the basis for Norton Ghost 9.0, which was released to retail markets in August 2004.

      Drive Image version 7 was the last version published under the PowerQuest corporate banner. It was also the first version to include a native Windows interface for cloning an active system partition. 🙂

      Norton Ghost was discontinued on April 30, 2013. After that I just relied on Windows built-in imaging until I found Macrium as a reliable replacement.

      Windows 10 Pro 22H2

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