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    I recently came across a very interesting e-book about the Word Perfect Corporation:

    http://www.wordplace.com/ap/almostperfect.pdf

    Back in the DOS days, Word Perfect was absolutely the best word processor, in my opinion. It seemed that every detail of the program — installation disks, layout of the menus on the function keys, Reveal Codes, printer drivers, etc. etc. — was well thought out and thoroughly tested, with quality in mind.

    I had Word Perfect 5.0 for DOS with a Daisy Wheel printer. One of my favorite things about Word Perfect was that you could easily make changes to your printer definition profile. I purchased a multi-lingual printwheel and put the codes into Word Perfect to print all of the special Spanish characters — upper and lower case accented, tilde, umlaut; as well as the upside down question mark and exclamation point.

    Printing an accented lower-case letter was easy; you would print the letter, do a backspace, then print the accent. However, it was more complicated with an accented upper-case letter: you would print the letter, do a backspace, change the size of a line, do a reverse line feed, print the accent, do a forward line feed, and change the size of a line back to the normal size. It was really cool to watch the daisy wheel printer do all of that for accented upper-case letters!

    The only problem I encountered with this process was with an upper-case N with a tilde above it. Somehow the tilde would lock the printer or do other weird things to it.

    I really loved doing Word Perfect 5.0 on my original IBM PC with 640K of RAM and a 20 meg hard drive. It ran like a champ, which it was in every way.

    Group "L" (Linux Mint)
    with Windows 10 running in a remote session on my file server
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    • #1542337

      This is where in a play, a literary device is used where one character asks the previous speaker, “Why are you telling us all this?” It helps to move the plot along…

      BATcher

      Plethora means a lot to me.

    • #1542348

      Because I think it’s really sad that such a great company like the Word Perfect Corporation, and such a great product like Word Perfect, ended up dying on the vine, because Novell had no business buying WPC for $850 million, and as a result getting themselves off of the track on networking. Novell lost their dominance in networking, and they lost their shirt on the WP deal, because they had no clue how to manage a retail product like Word Perfect, when Microsoft was breathing down their neck on both networking and “office” software.

      Group "L" (Linux Mint)
      with Windows 10 running in a remote session on my file server
    • #1542421

      WordPerfect is alive and well under the ownership of Canadian firm Corel, which also has PaintShop Pro and WinZip. I have WP X3, X4, X5 and version 12 on each of 3 Windows 7 and 10 Desktops and a few Notebooks.

      I got my first computer in ’92 with Win3.1 on MS-DOS 5 and WP5.1 for Windows, took a class at the college for WP 5.1 for DOS, quite valuable to me ever since.

      Before you wonder "Am I doing things right," ask "Am I doing the right things?"
    • #1542576

      Many years ago the company I used to work for let each employee use the word processor, spreadsheet, etc. that they had become comfortable using. For most that was mainly WordPerfect and Lotus 123. Later on came the combined office suites like Lotus SmartSuite, Microsoft Office, and Corel Office.

      As the company grew they put all the PC’s on a LAN and an Administrator was designated. This guy was a Microsoft educated tech who convinced the owners to standardize on MS Office for everyone. The edict came down and everyone complied as directed. It made sense in a way but two of the women who did all the executive typing kept their WordPerfect because the bosses liked the way it looked, and how fast the women were with it.

      Many companies probably did this and followed the bouncing MS ball. I personally liked Lotus SmartSuite and never had much need to use MS Word until much later on.

      Even astrophysicist Carl Sagan when speaking astronomically used Billions, not Trillions.
      • #1542590

        Many years ago the company I used to work for let each employee use the word processor, spreadsheet, etc. that they had become comfortable using. For most that was mainly WordPerfect and Lotus 123. Later on came the combined office suites like Lotus SmartSuite, Microsoft Office, and Corel Office.

        As the company grew they put all the PC’s on a LAN and an Administrator was designated. This guy was a Microsoft educated tech who convinced the owners to standardize on MS Office for everyone. The edict came down and everyone complied as directed. It made sense in a way but two of the women who did all the executive typing kept their WordPerfect because the bosses liked the way it looked, and how fast the women were with it.

        Many companies probably did this and followed the bouncing MS ball. I personally liked Lotus SmartSuite and never had much need to use MS Word until much later on.

        The first part of this speaks to a large part of the reason for .pdf files, common format for wide-flung company offices.

        The last sentence reminds me I still have Lotus SmartSuite 96, 97 and 98 discs, have 98 on one Notebook. I got into Lotus having first needing 1-2-3 then a friend got the suite with AmiPro word processor which later became WordPro.

        Before you wonder "Am I doing things right," ask "Am I doing the right things?"
    • #1542583

      We currently have a situation where we have one employee who has been allowed to continue using WordPerfect, whereas everyone else (about 50 people) is on Word 2010.

      Were this employee to leave, we would have the situation where all her WordPerfect documents would be difficult to access, let alone update, and that is a business risk.

      In this circumstance, standardisation is essential, however much it offends someone’s preferences.

      BATcher

      Plethora means a lot to me.

    • #1542722

      Bill Gates has been quite the Pied Piper over the years, and in my opinion that is a huge reason why his software came out on top of other, better software.

      There’s still no Reveal Codes feature in MS Word. Reveal Codes was/is one of the most useful features in Word Perfect. It sure would be handy in Word, which sometimes has a mind of its own. For example, if you start a numbered list in Word, it is very hard to break away from it and do a section which is not auto-numbered. In fact, the only way I’ve found to do it is to put some blank lines after the numbered list area, then set that area as a numbered list. Then, to stop auto-numbering, use the down arrow key to get past the numbered-list area. Without first adding some blank lines AFTER the part you plan on doing a numbered list, you’re stuck with auto numbering from that point forward in the document. With Reveal Codes, I could delete whatever code is causing auto-numbering to continue, and I could then stop Word from auto-numbering.

      Group "L" (Linux Mint)
      with Windows 10 running in a remote session on my file server
      • #1542874

        Bill Gates has been quite the Pied Piper over the years, and in my opinion that is a huge reason why his software came out on top of other, better software.

        There’s still no Reveal Codes feature in MS Word. Reveal Codes was/is one of the most useful features in Word Perfect. .

        Yup +1
        The first S/W I actually bought was WP in 92 or 93. They had a presentation at the county center. Come to think of it I also bought a Presentation program I never even installed. :p

        🍻

        Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
    • #1542738

      To stop a numbered list in Word, simply press return two times.

      Jerry

      • #1542741

        To stop a numbered list in Word, simply press return two times…

        Better to change the paragraph style.

    • #1542747

      Why? Hitting return twice changes the paragraph style back to normal.

      Jerry

      • #1542751

        Why? Hitting return twice changes the paragraph style back to normal…

        Suit yourself, but I’d rather be in control of paragraph styles.

    • #1542752

      WP did/does tabs really well, especially right justified. Having to set a tab style in Word is just painful.

      cheers, Paul

    • #1542771

      WordPerfect suffered from a lot of problems. The transition to Windows was rocky and WP 6.0 in particular was a mess in terms of quality control. It didn’t help that the company (I believe it was the dying days of WordPerfect Corp.) denied most of the problems. What really got the user base angry was they were caught slipstreaming fixes into the product, without changing the version numbers or acknowledging the patches. Novell got that bit under control and WPWin 6.1 was dramatically improved.

      Then Corel bought the product but they struggled to market against the other suite offerings. Corel really only had a word processor, spreadsheet, and drawing program. They had no database, no e-mail (I don’t believe Corel ever bought GroupWise). They did eventually get a presentations program but it was always a weak offering.

      Of course the IBM SmartSuite didn’t fare much better.

    • #1542878

      Hey Y’all,

      What killed WP was the inability to get a useable Windows version out on time. Of course, this was when MS kept a lot more of the Windows internals hidden from other developers so that only MS software could use them! Smart Marketing or Restraint of Trade you make the call? :cheers:

      May the Forces of good computing be with you!

      RG

      PowerShell & VBA Rule!
      Computer Specs

    • #1542894

      I won a copy of “WordPerfect for OS/2” at a computer conference presentation.
      I have no idea what happened to it…

      BATcher

      Plethora means a lot to me.

    • #1542920

      Now that you mention it, I believe WordPerfect was one of the companies that bought in to the idea of OS/2, and ignored Windows. This wound up hurting them plenty when OS/2 failed to catch on and Windows grew like topsy.

    • #1542923

      The only problem I had with WordPerfect/DOS was that quirky question put to the end-user when the end-user wanted to restore a previous version of a current document. “Are there other copies of WP running?” I think was the question. I do not remember the correct answer, giving the wrong answer did away with any chance of getting back a previous version of that particular document.

      "Take care of thy backups and thy restores shall take care of thee." Ben Franklin, revisted

    • #1542956

      OS/2 :wub::(:

      🍻

      Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
    • #1542988

      And it’s very good. Knocked Windows 3.1 into a cocked hat.

      cheers, Paul

      • #1543014

        And it’s very good. Knocked Windows 3.1 into a cocked hat.

        cheers, Paul

        Back in the OS/2 days, I asked my boss why we didn’t use OS/2. He told me that OS/2 was so stable, it didn’t represent the real world!

        Group "L" (Linux Mint)
        with Windows 10 running in a remote session on my file server
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