With August patches just around the corner, you’d be well advised to give up on the July patches. Yes, some folks dodged the (many!) bullets. But for
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There is absolutely NO reason to install both Rollups. Rollups are CUMULATIVE.
That means the August Rollup will CONTAIN the July Rollup PLUS the fixes for July errors and additional Aug. fixes included in the non-security part as well as the security and IE11 patches. So trying to install the July AND August Rollups would, in effect, be installing the July Rollup TWICE.
In fact, the August Rollup will supersede the July Rollup and the July Rollup should not even be offered on Patch Tues in Windows Update (unless you hide the August Rollup).
AND, you certainly would be a Guinea Pig it you installed ANYTHING on August Patch Tuesday, under current circumstances!
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Realize, in July, for example, the Rollup and the Security-only BOTH contained the same bug – tcpip.sys related BSOD. Unless there is a later “fixed” version of the SO released (like KB4338823/KB4345459 in July) or it is fixed in a later month’s SO, the SO’s don’t get fixed. And if you skip it, you also skip any other included patches and fixes because it is not cumulative.
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Ah phooey…I did not realize the ‘better’ can of worms had its own can of worms as well.
That’s just great. One more wrinkle, one more thing to watch out for. [sigh]
Thanks for bringing that up – I was not aware of that. I haven’t installed July’s Sec Only and I don’t plan on it…but if I’m following along correctly, unless they add the ‘good’ fixes to August Sec Only (which they won’t), then I’ll have to install July + the fix patch if I actually want the fixes, otherwise I’m just completely missing out.Ugh. Hey MS, I thought this was supposed to be “simple and predictable”. [rolleyes]
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Hmmm… situation sounds pretty much “predictable” to me…
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The discussion was about Win7, and that is the case with Win7/8.1.
I am going to speculate that supersedence works the same way way n Win10 and that the superseded patch will disappear. They are cumulative too.
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Link to Woody’s Computerworld article:
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My personal opinion is don’t bother with any of them with one exception. Either completely remove flash and don’t use it or always keep it up to date. Never run an outdated flash player.
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Unfortunately I don’t think you can, as MS now bakes it in to 8.1 and 10, which is why they push out the updates for it.
You may be able to disable it via Windows Features, but I’m not sure about that.
@WildBill, I think you’re fine there. Flash updates don’t (AFAIK) cause issues, and generally the MSRT does not either. Check Susan’s patch list for the C2R Office patch, if possible, but it’s probably fine at this point. As you said, you can always reimage off a backup (and kudos for being a user who has those).1 user thanked author for this post.
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Don’t apply July and subsequent patches.
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No problem, here is the link again – it is a long one since this is in German and Google needs to translate. It was the only site that had any info on these 2 KB’s.
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=https://www.borncity.com/blog/2018/08/10/windows10-updates-kb4295110-kb4023057-9-8-2018/MVP Edit: Removal of HTML
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For us lazy English-readers, Gunter has an English version: https://borncity.com/win/. It doesn’t have all the entries on his German blog, but it has the Windows-related ones. Which are the ones we’re usually interested about on this side of the pond. They’re already translated, so 1 step saved.
Bought a refurbished Windows 10 64-bit, currently updated to 22H2. Have broke the AC adapter cord going to the 8.1 machine, but before that, coaxed it into charging. Need to buy new adapter if wish to continue using it.
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KB4023057 – see: https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/hey-pk-kb4023057/#post-204715
KB4295110 – Briefly noted, as it concerns only a few. Microsoft has released KB4295110, a new update for the update components. Because this update requires only specific versions of Windows 10 1709 (Fall Creators Update), the update will not ship to all users through Windows Update.
using google translate from:
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I have deferral set for 30 days and they popped up today. I also set GP to 2, so I didn’t click “Download” and voila :).
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My anecdotal opinion is that you really need to check available and blocked updates frequently, and keep the telemetry and service stack updates blocked — as well as the 1803 upgrade. Microsoft is sneaky, they update their patches so that your previous blocks become null and void.
The only problem noted with the upgrade has been that it broke Symantec Endpoint Protection v 14.0, and I had to update it to v 14.2.
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No problems with July patches here, everything installed zero issues.
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HarryLeeSmith, perhaps you can answer a lingering Windows 10 question regarding what happens when there is more than one update released in the same month.
Ver 1803 had I believe 3 KB updates released during July
First, did you hide and hold (via wushowhide) or delay any Window 10 updates as they were released by WUpdater?
If not, did you simply let WUpdater automatically download and install then as they came down? With no problems after any or the 3 installations? Or describe process.
If you held them, did all 3 updates eventually come down? Were you able to hold all 3 of them simultaneously? Or, did the 2nd one replace the 1st and the 3rd replace the 2nd one? Ultimately leaving you holding only the last KB to install?
If only the first original KB came down due to your holding it, did you take a chance and install only that original KB? And then did the others come down to install? How many KB’s were eventually installed?
Or, did you get any or all KB’s from the MS Catalog and manually install?
Thanks for answers.
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Okay here I go again – sorry – but when you say “Rollup”, are you referring to the Group A everything rollup or is the Security Only Rollup included for us Group B people too? Are there still Group B people? I hardly ever here anything offered for them without questions such as this having to be asked.
I’ve seen it written here that Security Only (SO) updates for Win 7 must be installed strictly on a month to month basis without skipping any months. Has this now changed?
Also, are the updates for Office 2010 dangerous too? Or can they at least be gotten out of the way?
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@charlie, Rollups indicate the Group A type patching (which are cumulative) Group B Security Only type of patching is non-cumulative which means they need to be installed at some point prior to newer ones. I see you are Group B so, Woody’s advice is not to install July’s patches and to wait, probably until August’s patches have passed testing. Then there will be a methodology post on how to patch Group B SO patches for July AND August.
Office security patches are released on the 2nd Tuesday of the month, which hasn’t happened yet for August. For July Office patches, refer to Susan Bradley’s Master patch list here:
https://www.askwoody.com/patch-list-master/master-patch-list-july-2018/
Hope this is clear for you.
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Thank you very much Microfix, that is clear.
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Charlie #209822 “Are there still Group B people? I hardly ever here anything offered for them without questions such as this having to be asked.”
Yes, most certainly there are more than a few in Group B here and, yes, we don’t get mentioned a lot. Mostly because those offering comments and starting forums are mostly concerned with Windows 10 first and Group A (Rollups) second. For obvious reasons (their patches have lots of problems). Also those in Group B (never Rollups, Security Only), for the most part, are doing fine. Or, at least, better than everybody else here. Also, for obvious reasons (we have Windows 7 and, or 8.1 and sometimes make our own *cautious* decisions as to when and what to patch, using the DEFCON as one thing to consider among several — and turn out to be right about that more often than not — although we sometimes come to grief too — we live such adventurous lives!).
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Very well said OscarCP. That is the way I feel too. Once I get past all the confusion with who is talking about what, and what OS they’re referring to, I’ve done just fine with no problems.
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As I needed to make system partition backups for other reasons I took the plunge and installed the W7 and W8.1 July Security Only (SO) and IE 32 bit updates last weekend without any problems. After making similar backups I installed W7 and W8.1 SO and IE 64 bit updates on my other PC a few days later. (I have ignored the .NET stuff.)
Overall the only problem I have seen is with W8.1 64 bit where (at least one of) the File Explorer file/folder problem(s) which re-occur every few months re-appeared this month (after a gap of several months). When trying to copy files from a folder in a secondary D: partition to a folder in the system partition C: by selecting, drag and drop, Windows informed that it “could not find the files” or something along those lines. Recognising this sort of problem I exported the Registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions
and compared it with a know good version of the key and discovered that 2 of the usual suspect sub-keys had re-appeared:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{6365D5A7-0F0D-45e5-87F6-0DA56B6A4F7D}]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{6D809377-6AF0-444b-8957-A3773F02200E}]
Deleting these sub-keys and rebooting the PC brought back the File Explorer drag and drop file copying functionality.
(To be sure I also exported the Registry key and compared it to a good version on my W8.1 32 bit PC and nothing untoward had re-appeared there. So this month this re-appearing faulty Registry stuff is only a W8.1 64 bit issue – for me at least.)
HTH. Garbo.
PS: I’m just a home PC user with a small Microsoft footprint e.g. I use Panda AV not Defender/MSE, Softmaker Office not MS Office, Firefox not IE etc. so my experience might not be typical of other readers here 🙂
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@anonymous interesting I run a triple boot at home, 10, 8.1, 7 never noticed that behaviour before, although I generally “copy and Paste” between OS’s and Partitions (inc 1 x VHD like a partition to all intensive purposes) I’ll give this a try tonight, still not installed Win8.1’s July updates yet and if so seems like it may be Joining the July “Patch Prohibition” Pity really as Win8.1 probably is the best and least problematic of all the OS’s I have worked with or used. 🙂
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This has generated some interest, so a bit more info’ 🙂
I originally encountered these W8.1 explorer problems in January 2017 when I started to look at W8.1 seriously. (I had bought W8 licenses when MS were selling them cheaply the 1st couple of months after introducing W8, but W8 was just too unstable at that time so I continued with W7.) My initial problem was recovering files out of a Sandboxie sandbox (which at a low level is moving between folders) and I found online info’ including at:
https://www.winhelponline.com/blog/error-rename-move-folders-windows-10/
I know that the article is for W10, but there is a W8.1 “good” version of the failing Registry key in the “Note” in the “Solution” section.
I exported my faulty version of the key and compared it with this “good” version and my faulty version had 8 extra sub-keys. I copied these extra, faulty sub-keys into a .reg file and added minus ‘-‘ symbols in the appropriately places to delete the faulty, extra stuff and “merged” this into the Registry, rebooted and my problem was solved. I kept this .reg file in case I needed it in the future (which I did).
I have encountered other explorer problems at intervals of a few months since then e.g. being unable to rename a folder or (like this month) being unable to copy files. Each time merging this .reg file and rebooting has fixed things. This has occurred in both 32 bit and 64 bit versions.
So the contents of my .reg file to delete the 8 extra faulty Registry entries are:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{0ddd015d-b06c-45d5-8c4c-f59713854639}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{35286a68-3c57-41a1-bbb1-0eae73d76c95}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{6365D5A7-0F0D-45e5-87F6-0DA56B6A4F7D}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{6D809377-6AF0-444b-8957-A3773F02200E}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{7d83ee9b-2244-4e70-b1f5-5393042af1e4}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{a0c69a99-21c8-4671-8703-7934162fcf1d}]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{B4BFCC3A-DB2C-424C-B029-7FE99A87C641}\PropertyBag]
“ThisPCPolicy”=-
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FolderDescriptions\{f42ee2d3-909f-4907-8871-4c22fc0bf756}]I did read some online comments suggesting that the 64 bit Wow6432Node versions should also be fixed, but I have not had to do that myself so far and I think it safer to keep the changes to a minimum. This is why I haven’t just deleted the Registry key and fully replaced it with the early 2017 “good” version – there may be later “good” changes which the early 2017 “good” version did not include at that time.
BTW: I have removed most of the W8.1 Metro “phone apps” so I don’t know if that has caused these explorer problems? Anyway the Registry changes above have kept things working for me so far.
HTH. Garbo.
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@anonymous Nice Registry tweaks there so bookmarked for future Reference, I dont think I have ever had that problem before with Win8.1, but as said before I never use “Drag n Drop” normally just “Copy n Paste.” Anyway’s I installed the “chunk” of Win8.1 updates outstanding for July, going against wise advice in here, on a Hunch. Happy to report Win8.1 is ready to go, albeit it with another 565mb (x64) of updates weighing it down. I am afraid unable to recreate the “Dag n Drop” between Windows Partitions and the sole VHD on my Machine fault before and after alas. So a bit hesitant to give the Reg tweaks a try. After all a Working Win8.1 installation is “worth its weight in Gold” after July’s “Patch apocalypse” I still maintain my assertion for Win7 folks thinking of “jumping ship” after Win7 EOL but with an aversion to Win10, Win8.1 is should definately warrant some consideration.
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Anyone knows what issues there are with KB4339093 (Cumulative IE11 update for W7 x64, Group B) ?
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Surfing Pensioner: Actually, for Group B and Windows 7, it is not that bad. Most of the current DEFCON setting reflects the horrors of the Win 10 patches and the recurring problems with the Group A Rollups.
I am fully patched through July (except for the problematic .NET patches) and still my PC is in good health. As it has been since I bought it, more than 7 years ago and to this very day, except for catching the occasional cold. But one has to do one’s homework, as the DEFCON by itself is no longer a good guide for Group B. I am widely known to be pretty reckless and nonchalant, but I think that to be Group W is too risky even for me.
Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).
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KB4338823 2018-07 Security Only Quality Update says:
Known issues in this update
Symptom
After installing this update, some devices running network monitoring workloads may receive the 0xD1 Stop error because of a race condition.
Workaround
This issue is resolved in KB4345459.
Symptom
Restarting the SQL Service may fail occasionally with the error, “Tcp port is already in use”.
Workaround
This issue is resolved in KB4345459.
Symptom
When an administrator tries to stop the World Wide Web Publishing Service (W3SVC), the W3SVC remains in a “stopping” state, but cannot fully stop or be restarted.
Workaround
This issue is resolved in KB4345459.KB4338818 2018-07 Security Monthly Quality Rollup says:
Symptom
After installing this update, some devices running network monitoring workloads may receive the 0xD1 Stop error because of a race condition.
Workaround
This issue is resolved in KBKB4338821.
Symptom
Restarting the SQL Service may fail occasionally with the error, “Tcp port is already in use”.
Workaround
This issue is resolved in KB4338821.
Symptom
When an administrator tries to stop the World Wide Web Publishing Service (W3SVC), the W3SVC remains in a “stopping” state, but cannot fully stop or be restarted.
Workaround
This issue is resolved in KB4338821.Is there a similarity here?
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For Windows 7 only (I only have that) I first tried installing, as Group B, just the first (July 10) Security Only update, and all was well.
Then I installed KB4345459 on top of that, for good measure and to see what might happen, and all continued to be well. And still is well. In fact, other than .NET updates (the only July patches I have not applied yet), I have not had, or heard of, any real problems with the Windows 7 updates for July. The DEFCON is mostly about Windows 10 and the Group A Rollups, these days.
Before installing anything, first make sure to create a restore point, so you can return your system to what it was before the update if you encountered problems, for example when running some applications that you might have installed yourself in your PC.
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I just downloaded and installed the Security Only and IE updates with no problems showing. I did not do the .NET, or 2952664. The Office 2010 updates were (are) okay too. So it looks like I’m good shape for another month.
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I got a couple of Win10 Machines at work (still 1709 at home and its completely different with daily Defender updates etc), with the same GPOL set i.e. “2 Notify to Download, to install” still firmly set with Junes update (KB4284835) installed not notifying nor being offered July’s update (KB4338819), except 1 Machine (Lenovo) in WUMT but not through Win Update. I believe there’s an SSU in the mix somewhere (KB4338853) but M$ says, allegegedly, “it will install its self” errrm well not yet! Any one else seeing this behaviour????
I just got some comments to my German blog post about (it’s this sub-thread), where user wufuc_MaD complains. It seems that WUMT doesn’t work reliable anymore.
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Concerning the WUMT = Windows Update MiniTool, a quote from the MDL Forum:
Cumulative Update is processed by UUP since W10 1709 and WUMT cannot handle UUP correctlyhttps://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/windows-update-minitool.64939/page-44#post-1453258
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Woody’s ComputerWorld article says this about the July Office Patches:
The Office patches passed relatively unscathed, except the KB 4018385 non-security patch for a bug in a three-month-old security patch that crashed Office — and the new non-security patch also crashes Office.
You can check Susan’s Master Patch List for July for the status of the other Office updates.
Hi everyone,
All of my Win7 computers are Group B through June 2018. When the August Security Only updates are released, I will wait and test them on the following Saturday after I do my Friday backup. I will also test to see if the August Security Only updates have proper supersedence over the July Security Only updates, or if the August Security Only updates completely replace the July Security Only updates. The latter would be confirmed by, after installing the August, then trying to install the July should result in a “This updates is not applicable to your computer” message.
Note that I will not be testing any Security Only .NET or IE updates just yet, as I prefer to examine things one step at a time.
Best regards,
–GTP
Just to say that I’ve today installed the four Office 2010 updates for July without any issues thus far.
All other updates have been hidden, and both my Windows 7 desktops are now set to “Never check for updates”.
Thanks as always to Woody, Susan, and the rest of the team/fellow commenters for helping to keep me sane as well as up and running for another month! Goodness only knows what August will bring…
You know, if this keeps up, there won’t be much point in sticking with a “supported” version of Windows. Maybe it’s time to reconsider putting Windows 8.0 back on my old eMachines computer.
Nah. I REALLY LIKE Elementary OS on that machine. But if I were to decide to go with Windows on that machine, it would be 8.0.
Group "L" (Linux Mint)
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Elementary OS is a very lightweight distro of Linux based on Ubuntu:
https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/elementary-os/
It looks and feels a whole lot like a MAC.
Group "L" (Linux Mint)
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I suspect that the following hypothetical conversation explains why Windows discussions here so often veer off into Linux:
Kids: Are we there yet???
Dad: No, kids, we still have a way to go.
Mom: This road we’re on, if we stay on it the map shows it goes straight over a cliff.
Dad: Is there any place to turn off?
Mom: Yes, there’s a fork five miles down the road where you can go to the right and go around the mountain.
Dad: OK thanks, we’ll turn off there.
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@alwayslookingforanswers, “if I have patched since then do I still need to apply those older patches …” No, you do not. Win 7 Rollups are cumulative, so you do not have to install older ones. By the way, KB4088878 was March’s Security Only update, not a Rollup; perhaps you meant KB4088875.
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I installed the July updates today, Group B Security Only KB4338823 and IE Rollup KB4339093 manually, as well as all Office 2010 patches without issue via WU. Also installed the KB4345459. All installed without issues. I have held off on the July .NET Rollups on WU and the Optional, but Recommended .NET Version 4.7.2.
I have not touched the August updates at thios point (too early).
Interestingly, today, Belarc Advisor is showing 2 “missing” patches KB4343205 Cumulative security update for Internet Explorer: August 14, 2018 and KB4343899 August 14, 2018—KB4343899 (Security-only update) . I have never had Belarc show the 2 Group B Security Only patches, only the Rollups.
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amraybt, I was in your position up until a week ago but I finally pulled the trigger and updated to June. I used the Roll-Up so I didn’t have to bother with the patch order song-n-dance and so far, everything is running smoothly on 2 Win7 machines.
I originally feared the Meltdown/Spectre patches might result in slowdowns to my systems but I benchmarked both machines before and after (using CrystalDiskMark, AS SSD, Cinebench, and UserBenchMark) and no change to performance could be found. Neither machine is new, the desktop being a Nahalem Core i5 and my laptop being a Sandybridge Core i7.
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