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Hey Y’all,
I was on Amazon today and this popped up: Samsung QVO 1Tb SSD $105.94 w/3 yr. warranty. Not to bad for a 1Tb but I thought a little research was in order as this was advertised as Price balanced w/performance value.
I quickly found this: Samsung EVO 1Tb SSD 108.34 w/5 yr. warranty.
You make the call!
Happy Holidays and a Very Happy 2020 to Y’all! 
You make the call!
I you can buy a M.2 NVMe SSD you will get x6-x10 (up to 3GB/s-6GB/s) time faster read/write than a SATA SSD.
I’ve bought four Samsung SSDs over the years (for my own use), and I see little need to look elsewhere, though I do also consider competing products at purchase time. Samsung drives tend to always be at or near the top of the performance envelope of any marget segment they’re in, and all of them that I have looked at offer self-encryption.
The 850 Evo in my G3 uses the self-encryption feature along with the UEFI’s SATA password to secure the data without the performance penalty (minor though it is) of OS-level encryption. That was the plan for the 860 Evo I bought for the Swift also, until I learned that the Insyde UEFI firmware has a “genius” level feature of giving unlocking codes to any attacker who tries to enter the password for the drive and fails. Nothing like a security device that self-disables (in whole or part) right at that moment when it is asked to do its job.
As such, I use LUKS encryption on the Swift, and truth be told, there’s not a great deal of difference in CPU usage (and no difference in throughput) using LUKS as opposed to self-encryption at the drive level. It’s still nice to be able to offload that task to dedicated hardware.
Most consumer SSDs don’t have self-encryption, so they’re mostly removed from consideration for my needs, even in a setup (like on the Swift) where I will be using OS-level encryption anyway. I’d still go for it if I had a need for the drive in question and the price was much lower than that of a competing self-encrypting drive, but the price differential between the SED and non-SED is usually not that much.
Dell XPS 13/9310, i5-1135G7/16GB, KDE Neon 6.2
XPG Xenia 15, i7-9750H/32GB & GTX1660ti, Kubuntu 24.04
Acer Swift Go 14, i5-1335U/16GB, Kubuntu 24.04 (and Win 11)
I am confused…if this is about 1 TB ssd’s, what do you mean topped at 500mb?
The peak transfer rate of SATA 3 is about 550 MB/s, so that is probably what he meant.
Dell XPS 13/9310, i5-1135G7/16GB, KDE Neon 6.2
XPG Xenia 15, i7-9750H/32GB & GTX1660ti, Kubuntu 24.04
Acer Swift Go 14, i5-1335U/16GB, Kubuntu 24.04 (and Win 11)
I don’t trust Samsung at all. So I bought this at Micro Center as the new C: drive for my new Win10 desktop:
Crucial P1 1TB SSD 3D QLC NAND M.2 2280 PCIe NVMe 3.0 x4 Internal Solid State Drive
$99.99, 5-year warranty
Windows 10 Pro x64 v1909 Desktop PC
Avoid the “QVO” versions of Samsung drives. Quote from Anandtech’s review: QLC NAND is fundamentally about sacrificing quality for quantity. I’ve also seen several reviews on major retailers indicating boot problems with many BIOS for this drive. It’s role in the market is to provide fast, cheap, large storage – and if I was using it for non-critical large masses of data I might change my mind – but not as a system/boot drive.
The straight up EVO and the new EVO Plus, as well as Pro models are all great.
(And for those that don’t trust Samsung SSD’s – why? I mean I feel that way about their phones, but their SSD’s have been darn solid for my clients.)
~ Group "Weekend" ~
I’ve been using Samsung SSD’s for some time now (Pro and EVO) and they seem great to me. The only problem I’ve ever had was the Magician software. The software worked great up until the later versions of 5 and now into version 6. For some reason it continually causes WMI stoppages so I just shutdown Magician and start it as I want to, to check for updates etc.
Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 
All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).
QLC NAND is fundamentally about sacrificing quality for quantity.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13633/the-samsung-860-qvo-ssd-review/10
for 3 bucks the EVO although not the fastest Samsung, the Pro IIRC would be that. I bought an Intel 660p 1TB for $99 for the price in my new box in July FYI.
I see you guys prefer Samsung for various reasons, but have you tried the very reliable Crucial brand? Might not look as well in benchmarks like Samsung, but it behaves exceptionally well in the long term.
Use the range MX500 for SATA or P1 for NVME for best features overall.
I’ve used Kingston, Crucial, PNY, SanDisk, Samsung and a couple other brands I can’t remember. None have had issues and some have been running for many years.
The only SSDs I’ve had problems with were in Dell 780/790 series desktops. They sold a 128GB LiteOn SSD (rebranded, most likely) – we’ve had several of them die despite relatively low total bytes written.
Just did 2 this weekend. I don’t “clone”. I create a drive image with Acronis and then restore to SSD keeping the disk signature. No issue with licensing on any of the programs.
MAC addresses have nothing to do with SSDs, they are network card bits.
As anon said, image and restore, taking care to “align” the restore. See this post for more detail: https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/grub-boot-issue-and-macrium-backup/#post-1986381
cheers, Paul
I see you guys prefer Samsung for various reasons, but have you tried the very reliable Crucial brand? Might not look as well in benchmarks like Samsung, but it behaves exceptionally well in the long term.
Use the range MX500 for SATA or P1 for NVME for best features overall.
I agree.
I have had very, very good experiences with Crucial SATA SSDs. By that I mean they just work and work with NO problems or compatibilities for me.
I have them on both Windows and Linux machines (Desktops and Laptops) and am very pleased.
They are at a good price point and carried by many brick and mortar stores locally at a price competitive with online.
The EVO will be much faster and will also last longer due to its much higher write specification. There really is no contest here. The QVO slows down when 50% full. The EVO can run over 90% full before the speed is measurably slower.
GreatAndPowerfulTech
Hey Y’all,
Boy this got out of hand..LOL! I was merely pointing out that what was being promoted as a Value Buy wasn’t really when you consider the minuscule price difference and the 2 yr warranty difference among other specs. But as always the group came through with some interesting observations.
For the record I have currently in my various machines SSDs from Crucial, Sandisk, AData, and by far my favorite Samsung. I haven’t had a problem with any of them with the exception of my EVO 960 250Gb NVME M.2 drive which wouldn’t initially not allow me to boot from it on my Dell XPS 8920. Luckily, one of the BIOS updates to fix the Spectre/Meltdown vulnerabilities also fixed the booting problem.
HTH
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