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    On a couple of their pages that introduce the migration from 10 to 11 and how to prepare for it, Microsoft states that the migration can be controlled on machines that have Group Policy by use of the TRV setting within Computer Configuration/Administrative Templates/Windows Components/Windows Update for Business.

    I’m curious just what the setting will be to indicate a system’s willingness to get upgraded from 10 to 11? 1121H2 perhaps?

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    • #2375845

      Where do they say that?   As right now 11 is not final, it’s beta so only go to it on machines you are willing to REALLY be beat up by Microsoft.

      To get it now you have to join the Insider program.

       

      Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

      • #2375941

        Where do they say that? …

        At the following location: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/windows-11-prepare#cloud-based-solutions

        Here’s a brief quote from the paragraph where it’s found, under the sub-heading of “Cloud-based solutions”:

        If you use Windows Update for Business Group Policy or Configuration Service Provider (CSP) policies, you will need to use the Target Version capability rather than feature update deferrals to upgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 11.

        I added bolding to emphasize the mentioning of Group Policy in the paragraph. The words “Target Version” were already bold in the original post on the page.

        From what I’ve read in the link below that @PKCano posted as a big favor to @Tex265 who couldn’t get the link to post, there’s a change in Group Policy in 21H1 for Windows 10’s listings under Windows Update for Business. Looks like there is an added listing/policy to allow you to specifically define not only the OS version (20H2, 21H1, etc.) but whether or not you want to update from 10 to 11 as well. The article does mention that if you want to exclude yourself from being offered Windows 11, you will by default also exclude yourself from being offered 21H2 for Windows 10 as well for now.

        For now, the article by Martin Brinkmann linked to below also answers my question about just how we’ll be able to make the jump from 10 to 11 once we’ve decided the time is right for our own individual situation(s).

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        • #2375963

          As I read it, that’s for when it finally comes out.  Currently you have to opt into the insider program to get the beta.  When it’s released then you can use that.

          Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

          • #2375967

            I was just thinking (I know, a dangerous habit) after posting my apology below:

            Perhaps MS might incorporate the GP changes currently only in the Win 11 previews into 21H2 later this year, thereby giving those on Win 10 an easy path to 11 if they so choose, or is 21H2 too far along in its development to incorporate such a change, so MS might wait until 22H1?

          • #2375974

            What I read from the MS and ghacks information, is that the changes seen for Windows Update in the Win11 Preview in Group Policy will become applicable in Win10 from 21H2 onward.
            In Win11, here is no longer a Windows Update for Business in Group Policy and the setting under Windows Update have been changed to managing updates either under WSUS or Windows Update. There are other changes as well.

            How soon these changes will show up in Group Policy in Win10 is anybody’s (except MS’s) guess at the moment.

        • #2375964

          After rereading the article by Martin Brinkmann on GHacks, I realize that I was somewhat mistaken in something I said in my post above.

          Where I said

          there’s a change in Group Policy in 21H1 for Windows 10’s listings under Windows Update for Business. Looks like there is an added listing/policy to allow you to specifically define not only the OS version (20H2, 21H1, etc.) but whether or not you want to update from 10 to 11 as well.

          I was mistaken. This change is currently only seen in the preview releases of Windows 11, NOT in any versions of Windows 10, as I had mistakenly stated above. The remainder of my statement is still correct, in that to exclude oneself from getting Windows 11 for now, one must set TRV to 21H1, per the GHacks article.

          My apologies to one and all for my mis-statement quoted above.

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    • #2375857

      To get it now you have to join the Insider program.

      Or just download Windows 11 Insider Preview 10.0.22000.51 (co_release) amd64 via UUP Dump.

    • #2375882

      Check out  a recent posting at ghacks on how to use TVR to block Window 11. Apparently the Group Policy settings will be changing.

      Woody’s is blocking me from posting the actual link.

       

      Windows 11 Pro v24H2 and Windows 10 Pro x64 v22H2
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