Updating Store apps over slow connections

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Recapping the posts that RC Primak made last week: This may be a bit off-topic, but it has to do with Windows 10 updating of Windows Store Apps over a
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“How can the Windows Store download 75 MB And not get even 10 MB of that bandwidth applied toward one single update of a Store App?”

Content/tile updates.

“Regarding not respecting the Share Updates Over My Network Only vs. to anyone on the Internet: It’s true! My Windows 10 Pro installation is not respecting my restriction.”

How do you know?

“USB media creation is not an option when the USB installer wants to use EFI Fast Boot.”

USB media creation does not require EFI.

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A new bug or an undocumented ‘feature’?

If USB Media Creation does not work for any reason, try Rufus which is trusted by a lot of people worldwide for converting ISO to USB bootable.
I would say that most users upgraded from Windows 7 don’t have UEFI.

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Has m$ finally dropped the big one?

From computerworld – article 3023533 – tech sites are reporting the same all over the net…

“Microsoft makes an unbelievable “clarification” to the Windows support policy. With no notice, older versions of Windows have lost support status on the latest PC hardware—your downgrade rights have effectively been ripped away.

Yeah, you heard right: You can’t use Windows 7 nor 8.1 on Skylake CPUs or later—only Windows 10.”

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It’s a valid question. I’m waiting to see the list before making a comment. Should be out in the next few days.

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I just want to give a heads up to a behavior I’m experiencing in the past few days.

I’ve upgraded an HP 2000 from Windows 8.1 Pro to Windows 10 Pro. Somehow, the Windows Update Delivery Optimization keeps getting turned back on with the setting checked to share with PC’s on the local network only.

I haven’t read of anyone else having this problem but check your settings to see if it’s being changed.

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I thought MS solved that bug with an update released several versions ago. What version are you running? In the Cortana search box, type winver and press Enter.

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If this happened, this is interesting news.
Saying that, I have never understood the point of downgrading/rolling back, staying with an old version for a while until most issues with the new version are sorted or even not upgrading at all is legitimate, but downgrading?!

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I should be paying more attention to following up on my comments here at AskWoody.

Current Update:

The slower connections are uniquely affected by the inability to download Store App updates if those updates are over about 12 MB. in size.

What I posted later somewhere (maybe not here) is that this behavior can have many explanations.

The least conspiratorial explanation is that the slower connections download only so much data per period of time. Servers like the Store update servers can be set to only allow a brief connection time per App update, and this timeout may be too short for slower connections. This would explain the behaviors I observed, without any bandwidth being siphoned off for any other purpose.

The reason for continued bandwidth being used is the Store App updates routine, which causes updates to start over and over until they succeed. If timeouts occur every time on bigger downloads, this can chew up a lot of bandwidth without finishing some Store App updates. My experience with being able to update those same Apps over true broadband connections would bear this out. Over slower connections, this would amount to an endless loop situation. The Store does eventually terminate the updates if they keep timing out, but this doesn’t happen until a lot of bandwidth has been used up (hundreds of Megabytes).

So my initial impression that the bandwidth might be getting siphoned off for some other use is not supported by the evidence I have so far gathered. so my original assumption is hereby withdrawn, unless better evidence exists for Microsoft not respecting network connection sharing restrictions in the Windows 10 settings.

As to the USB and EFI Fast Boot issue, I was never making a general statement applying to modern PCs.

There are plenty of USB Media creation programs which don’t have to use EFI Fast Boot, but the Windows Media Creation Tool is not one of these. It will not create media on USB which do not use EFI Fast Boot. Even when creating the DVD, the media resulting from using MCT was EFI Fast Boot.

(My laptop can do EFI Fast Boot from CD or DVD media.)

I challenge anyone to post references or specific instructions as to how to accomplish non-EFI Fast Boot USB Media Creation using the Microsoft MCT for the Windows 10 installation media.

I would also like to now if there is a link for downloading the Microsoft MCT for the Win 10 Fall Update Upgrade Media, not the Full Installer.

My issue with USB and EFI Fast Boot is that on my laptop, the BIOS is older (2010 vintage) and does not have a BIOS Update which will allow both EFI Fast Boot and Boot From USB media to be invoked at the same time. This is hardware limited on that laptop.

Again, sorry for not updating my previous posts in here until now.

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And about the DVD drive — I did replace that thing. the new drive is a refurb, but it is working just fine. MCT worked its magic and I now have a DVD with EFI Fast Boot for Windows 10 Pro for my laptop. So I am covered, sort of, for the type of emergency for which I wanted to create the Install Media.

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I don’t know of any download link for the 1511 upgrade. Best you could do is running through Windows Update, which ain’t the same thing…

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It’s Version 1511 Build 10586.63

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Let me clarify that. I just allowed an update last night and it seems to be staying off for now. The computer this was happening on was just upgraded from 8.1 pro to 10 pro with an installation DVD I made back in late Nov / Early Dec. That may have been what was causing it. I will keep an eye on it and let you know if it comes back.

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You’re up-to-date, then. You should hop over to the Windows Answers forum (link on the upper right of this page) and post a complaint. Give them as many specifics as you can.

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That’s what i thought, though I thought I’d give it a shot in the dark. Happily, I don have the DVD drive working again, so the DVD installer for Win 10 Pro (I think this is the 1511 full installer) is available in my arsenal, just in case the Nuclear Option is ever needed again on my laptop. (The tablet is 32-bits and the laptop is 64-bits, so there must be two different install media sources, if I am correct.)

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Correction — I *do* have the drive working now.

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