• Updating Office (office 2000)

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    I currently have Office 2000 Professional installed (no service packs). I am planning on upgrading to Office standard for teachers and students 2003. From what I have been reading the install program will allow me to uninstall the older word, excel, powerpoint and outlook programs and replace them with the new versions. Will I be able to leave access 2000 on my computer? Will it be compatible with the new 2003 programs? Should I just avoid any potential problems and pay more to get the 2003 Professional version? Thanks.

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    • #733400

      I don’t know much about Office 2003, but I should point out that having Office 2000 Pro entitles you to an upgrade price. I believe the teachers & student versions don’t, so you may not be saving in the long run.

      By the way, although you didn’t ask, both SR-1a & SR-3 for Office 2000 are worthwhile to install. Generally speaking, it’s a good idea to install the service packs, which correct a number of bugs. I always wait a few weeks to read about problems in WOW (Woody’s Office Watch) & then install them when Woody gives the go ahead. smile

    • #733401

      I don’t know much about Office 2003, but I should point out that having Office 2000 Pro entitles you to an upgrade price. I believe the teachers & student versions don’t, so you may not be saving in the long run.

      By the way, although you didn’t ask, both SR-1a & SR-3 for Office 2000 are worthwhile to install. Generally speaking, it’s a good idea to install the service packs, which correct a number of bugs. I always wait a few weeks to read about problems in WOW (Woody’s Office Watch) & then install them when Woody gives the go ahead. smile

    • #733880

      The recommended practice with making earlier versions coexist was:

      (1) Always install the older version first (you’re okay here);
      (2) Try to install the new version onto a different partition (different hard drive) if possible; otherwise, install into a different folder.

      I haven’t done this myself, but if you were to scroll through a few months of this board, you’d see lots of suggestions like this for 97+2000, 2000+XP, and 97+XP.

    • #733881

      The recommended practice with making earlier versions coexist was:

      (1) Always install the older version first (you’re okay here);
      (2) Try to install the new version onto a different partition (different hard drive) if possible; otherwise, install into a different folder.

      I haven’t done this myself, but if you were to scroll through a few months of this board, you’d see lots of suggestions like this for 97+2000, 2000+XP, and 97+XP.

    • #734656

      As to installing MSO 2003 and previous editions of Office, I put a number of questions on the Lounge to the MSO 2003 team at the launch today and relevant links and comments are below:

      Office 2003 Editions Frequently Asked Questions Published: October 20, 2003:

      Installation and Compatibility MOS Requires Win XP or W2KSP3[/u]

      On which versions of Windows can I install Office 2003 Editions? Office 2003 Editions require Microsoft Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 3 (SP3). Using these operating systems can enhance security and reliability, and many businesses already have them.

      At the launch, today, the Office team told me this:

      1) The MOS installer has been improved over other versions significantly to eliminate glitches and to make install as seamless as possible.

      2) The default install of MSOffice 2003 is going to clean and clean thorougly all previous editions or components of Office, previous set up files, and any registry entries that had to do with the previous Office install, all previous menu shortcuts.

      3) They reiterated Woody’s description and advice on any previous Beta installation material. It’s going to be cleaned off, and exactly for the reasons Woody explained in WOW 2003 6 October-Vol. 1 No. 8.

      The MSO 2003 Resource Kit’s Custom Installation Wizard[/u]

      4) Questions are springing up on the Lounge and NG’s that say this: I have X Previous Office and it has –say Access. If I install Y Edition of MSO 2003 how do I keep Access and avoid conflicts. Microsoft Office Teams answer to this today was:

      Go to the MS0 2003 Resource Kit Site and Use the Custom Installation Wizard. When the Customization Wizard runs, there will be a simple list of all the previous components. If you want to save Access from the previous edition, you simply check it and it will be saved.

      The Office team emphatically said that it is not necessary with the MS0 2003 configuration to deploy a separate folder. But I consider it valuable advice I could get from people who have installed many past Office editions and one more way to get it done.

      I looked for a screenshot or the slides to show this Wizard’s list but could not find any up on the web yet. It is not shown on the PP’s from MS on Office 2003 yet. When and if it is, I will ss it.

      Custom Installation can be carried to considerable extreme whether via GPO and Active Directory in an enterprise or on your destkop/notebook/laptop/tablet: See;

      Methods of Customizing Office

      SMBP

      Ed. SMBP: I meant to include the link for the Custom Installation Wizard which is within the toolkit in the:[/size][/b]

      Office Resource Kit Toolset

      Customizing Office 2003

      Office 2003 Resource Kit Toolbox

      • #734666

        S, did you go to a launch event and get a free copy? I thought originally MS was offering only an evaluation kit, but the lastest inducement is:


        Get ready

        • #734688

          One of the pluses was that there was enough time in the breakouts for the presenter to allow people to toss out tips at will with PP, One Note, Outlook and there were a lot of great users in the audience so some very creative workarounds were offered up.

          SMBP

        • #734689

          One of the pluses was that there was enough time in the breakouts for the presenter to allow people to toss out tips at will with PP, One Note, Outlook and there were a lot of great users in the audience so some very creative workarounds were offered up.

          SMBP

        • #735289

          The wife and I both spent the day at the Seattle Launch. It was worth the time, in exchange we both ordered our copies of the software. Will be shipped some time in November,

          DaveA I am so far behind, I think I am First
          Genealogy....confusing the dead and annoying the living

        • #735290

          The wife and I both spent the day at the Seattle Launch. It was worth the time, in exchange we both ordered our copies of the software. Will be shipped some time in November,

          DaveA I am so far behind, I think I am First
          Genealogy....confusing the dead and annoying the living

        • #734678

          I went to the launch event and it turned out really well Jefferson. Several of the email reminders said if you went you would get the 120 day trial. That always happens so then the last one said don’t miss this because you’ll get Office 2003 free–and I just thought it was a typo and tossed it off. I said no way they would do that–and that’s what a lot of us thought. I went to the Office XP launch and Windows XP launch and they didn’t.

          They gave Office 2003 Pro and One Note–which is stand-alone $100 rebate $50 student. They gave a $700 value to what must have been 1500 people or so. Fed us very well–I always like it when Bill is buying my roast beef and turkey sandwhiches and all the fruit and Starbucks I can consume available all day.

          The breakouts were excellent–very interactive and informal and answered a lot of questions and a lot of tricks because I expected the standard PP and it was much better–I learned some nice tricks with Outlook, One Note, and a very good minitutorial on Publisher which I’ve never used. I went to Tech Net and Small Business and since they were right next door I was able to watch them both. I missed the xml and the .net–I had to go where I could get the most for me. If anyone’s schedule will let them, I’d recommend going to this one.

          Launch Powerpoints

          SMBP

          • #735976

            Ok, thanks for the information……..so we get the full blown software?????? I have my invitation letter still. Should I take it with me and just say I didn’t get around to registering, or what…? I can’t believe that they would let me in!

            • #736014

              What I think you mean Kathy, is that you got an invitation some way email or whatever, then by the time you went to the site it was full. They post registration about a month and a half but as it gets closer it fills. Sure, take your invitation, maybe you got it too late for the site, but it won’t matter. The main thing is that since you show up at that hotel, they’ll register you as a walk in; Bill will feed you roast beef and turkey, and yes you’ll get a full blown copy of Office 2003 Systems Professional (they give you a voucher and you go to a web site and register for it and they send it) plus Infopath–that comes out to $700 smackers in Texas gold. You won’t get the voucher until the very end after it’s over but the breakouts are very worth while–choose the type that interests you from the MS event site. You can ask questions and people from the audience will offer up tips.

              Enjoy. And by gosh it solves the problem you had on your thread. With Professional, you won’t have to worry about old Access and Publisher because you’ll have new slightly and I mean slightly almost imperceptibly improved ones unless you are using server power or xml improvements. The DRM applies to Excel, PP, and Word in 2003 Pro.

              Last night, some word MVP’s tested retaining old components and told me they found that you didn’t need to use the Resource Kit and its Custom Installation Wizard but that in the Office 2003 set-up is a customization option that will put up a screen to retain the old components of the old edition/version. But if there weren’t then someone could just go to the Office site and download the tool (the Custom Installation Wizard) either by itself or with the Resource Kit from the links above.)

              Enjoy. See, it pays to check out the lounge. grin

              SMBP

            • #737650

              Please see my response to Mr. Scher……do you think this is going to be an issue?

            • #737651

              Please see my response to Mr. Scher……do you think this is going to be an issue?

            • #737332

              I went to the local event today. There did seem to be more people than they expected based on registration. They ran out of: (1) welcome bags with the “evaluation” software; (2) VSTO/developer kits (they had about 33% of the number they needed); (3) sample chapters from the Resource Kit (I almost got mauled trying to get one). There were, however, plenty of “sandwiches” (I doubt they will server “chicken caesar salad wraps” in Texas!).

              It was worth a peek (even though the A/C didn’t work most of the day, and there were a lot of technical difficulties with the demos). I’m now 100% confident that we can wait 6 months for this. grin

            • #737407

              So you didn’t get the voucher for the full blown version? I plan on going………..to the event in Dallas………..I just hope I can get in………it will be worth it for the software………but not the “evaluation” kit.

            • #737727

              I was registered, I got the voucher, and I just redeemed it. I’m not sure if walk-ins can register on-site, or are just bystanders to the giveaways. If you can afford the time, try going early (by 9AM it’s pandemonium).

            • #737728

              I was registered, I got the voucher, and I just redeemed it. I’m not sure if walk-ins can register on-site, or are just bystanders to the giveaways. If you can afford the time, try going early (by 9AM it’s pandemonium).

            • #737408

              So you didn’t get the voucher for the full blown version? I plan on going………..to the event in Dallas………..I just hope I can get in………it will be worth it for the software………but not the “evaluation” kit.

            • #737333

              I went to the local event today. There did seem to be more people than they expected based on registration. They ran out of: (1) welcome bags with the “evaluation” software; (2) VSTO/developer kits (they had about 33% of the number they needed); (3) sample chapters from the Resource Kit (I almost got mauled trying to get one). There were, however, plenty of “sandwiches” (I doubt they will server “chicken caesar salad wraps” in Texas!).

              It was worth a peek (even though the A/C didn’t work most of the day, and there were a lot of technical difficulties with the demos). I’m now 100% confident that we can wait 6 months for this. grin

          • #735977

            Ok, thanks for the information……..so we get the full blown software?????? I have my invitation letter still. Should I take it with me and just say I didn’t get around to registering, or what…? I can’t believe that they would let me in!

        • #734679

          I went to the launch event and it turned out really well Jefferson. Several of the email reminders said if you went you would get the 120 day trial. That always happens so then the last one said don’t miss this because you’ll get Office 2003 free–and I just thought it was a typo and tossed it off. I said no way they would do that–and that’s what a lot of us thought. I went to the Office XP launch and Windows XP launch and they didn’t.

          They gave Office 2003 Pro and One Note–which is stand-alone $100 rebate $50 student. They gave a $700 value to what must have been 1500 people or so. Fed us very well–I always like it when Bill is buying my roast beef and turkey sandwhiches and all the fruit and Starbucks I can consume available all day.

          The breakouts were excellent–very interactive and informal and answered a lot of questions and a lot of tricks because I expected the standard PP and it was much better–I learned some nice tricks with Outlook, One Note, and a very good minitutorial on Publisher which I’ve never used. I went to Tech Net and Small Business and since they were right next door I was able to watch them both. I missed the xml and the .net–I had to go where I could get the most for me. If anyone’s schedule will let them, I’d recommend going to this one.

          Launch Powerpoints

          SMBP

        • #735603

          I have not been able to get in a session in North Texas. The list is full…….do you know of any other options to gain an invitation?

          • #735619

            Kathy–

            You’re in. Here’s what you do. Show up. While I can’t speak for the large Redmond company, we had walk-ins for just that reason, and they welcomed them. They didn’t throw them out. They even had forms there for them to walk-in, they expect it and handle it well. The difference between walk-ins and people who saw they were full on the registration site is that they actually go there thinking they won’t be tossed out and they’re right.

            But they have to say that on their site because the rooms only hold so many people and they were are pretty full at any Office launch. If it’s not too far a trip geographically in North Texas, then by all means go. You’ll get in.

            Another option is that you could contact someone at the MS Office or campus close to you from the Office or Business Solutions team or whatever they call it there and tell them you really want to go and I feel they’ll help you.

            SMBP

            • #738644

              Wish me luck! I am going to go on Tuesday, and see if I can wrangle myself a spot! I want to thank each of you for all of your help and information regarding the new Office upgrade, as well as the information regarding the Launch Events. You have all been extremely helpful and very patient with some of my crazy questions.

              Regards,

            • #738676

              You’ll be fine Kathy. Just get there a few minutes early and eat a sandwhich for me. You can go to any of their breakout meetings after the launch presentation at around 9AM–so try to see which ones meet your needs–the small business ones are going to do the most demos of Office the way you would be working with it–features of Outlook, Word, One Note, ect. Look at the events site to get an idea of what is in them. They won’t give out the voucher for free Office until the very end around 5P.

              SMBP

            • #738704

              Thanks for the “attagirl”. I was planning on going to the one for IT Professionals, since that is what I am, but I have a feeling the SB one will be better since I am not a developer or sys admin. Will let you guys know how it goes! Thanks again! bananas

            • #738705

              Thanks for the “attagirl”. I was planning on going to the one for IT Professionals, since that is what I am, but I have a feeling the SB one will be better since I am not a developer or sys admin. Will let you guys know how it goes! Thanks again! bananas

            • #739628

              Well, I got in, got my voucher, my eval kit, etc. Very good event, learned a lot of new things about the new Office. Thanks so much for directing me and encouraging me to attend. I have already ordered my software via the web, and anxiously await the product! I even received a T-Shirt!

            • #739667

              Good to hear. Enjoy MOS–you may have access to the server environment to see some of its power in the direction that Microsoft decidedly took it this time, and with Pro you will be able to take advantage of the full panapoly of its XML which it uses as a bridge I’m told for a lot of its ability to interact. You also have a Texas icon now too.

              SMBP

            • #739668

              Good to hear. Enjoy MOS–you may have access to the server environment to see some of its power in the direction that Microsoft decidedly took it this time, and with Pro you will be able to take advantage of the full panapoly of its XML which it uses as a bridge I’m told for a lot of its ability to interact. You also have a Texas icon now too.

              SMBP

            • #739629

              Well, I got in, got my voucher, my eval kit, etc. Very good event, learned a lot of new things about the new Office. Thanks so much for directing me and encouraging me to attend. I have already ordered my software via the web, and anxiously await the product! I even received a T-Shirt!

            • #738677

              You’ll be fine Kathy. Just get there a few minutes early and eat a sandwhich for me. You can go to any of their breakout meetings after the launch presentation at around 9AM–so try to see which ones meet your needs–the small business ones are going to do the most demos of Office the way you would be working with it–features of Outlook, Word, One Note, ect. Look at the events site to get an idea of what is in them. They won’t give out the voucher for free Office until the very end around 5P.

              SMBP

            • #738645

              Wish me luck! I am going to go on Tuesday, and see if I can wrangle myself a spot! I want to thank each of you for all of your help and information regarding the new Office upgrade, as well as the information regarding the Launch Events. You have all been extremely helpful and very patient with some of my crazy questions.

              Regards,

          • #735620

            Kathy–

            You’re in. Here’s what you do. Show up. While I can’t speak for the large Redmond company, we had walk-ins for just that reason, and they welcomed them. They didn’t throw them out. They even had forms there for them to walk-in, they expect it and handle it well. The difference between walk-ins and people who saw they were full on the registration site is that they actually go there thinking they won’t be tossed out and they’re right.

            But they have to say that on their site because the rooms only hold so many people and they were are pretty full at any Office launch. If it’s not too far a trip geographically in North Texas, then by all means go. You’ll get in.

            Another option is that you could contact someone at the MS Office or campus close to you from the Office or Business Solutions team or whatever they call it there and tell them you really want to go and I feel they’ll help you.

            SMBP

          • #735646

            I’d call here because the launch isn’t until Wednesday–gives you a couple days or just go. You’ll be fine.

            Microsoft SouthCentral Offices: Dallas (Las Colinas) , TX

            Address: 7000 SR-161(George Bush Turnpike), Irving, TX 75039
            Phone Number: (469) 775-0000
            Fax Number: (972) 233-7280

            October 29, 2003 (Wednesday) Austin-MS Office 2003 Launch. Location: Austin Hyatt Regency
            208 Barton Springs, Texas Ballroom 1-3 9:00AM -5:00PM.
            Recommend Audience: IT Professionals and all PC Users.

            This would be a more satisfactory out of the box (no pun was intended) solution to whether to get Student and Teachers because you’d end up with MOS 2003 Pro and Infopath.

            Good luck,

            SMBP

            • #735660

              Can’t go to the one in Austin……..I was thinking Dallas on the 4th or FTWorth on the 18th……….should I call the main office first, or just show up………it would be great if they were having one in Irving! That would be closer.

            • #735731

              Dallas or Ft. Worth is your best bet. There isn’t one in Irving. I have my Texas bearings–the Cowboys play in Irving, but they weren’t there today–they were playing trampoline for Warren Sapps at Raymond James in Tampa. Just kidding!

              Show up a little early–people who were too late to register on line knew they wouldn’t turn them away–besides some people register and don’t show. They have forms for walk-ins. They feel that if you want to come, and you show up, they don’t want to make you mad. They want to make you a customer for life. I wouldn’t even bother calling.

              SMBP

            • #735732

              Dallas or Ft. Worth is your best bet. There isn’t one in Irving. I have my Texas bearings–the Cowboys play in Irving, but they weren’t there today–they were playing trampoline for Warren Sapps at Raymond James in Tampa. Just kidding!

              Show up a little early–people who were too late to register on line knew they wouldn’t turn them away–besides some people register and don’t show. They have forms for walk-ins. They feel that if you want to come, and you show up, they don’t want to make you mad. They want to make you a customer for life. I wouldn’t even bother calling.

              SMBP

            • #735661

              Can’t go to the one in Austin……..I was thinking Dallas on the 4th or FTWorth on the 18th……….should I call the main office first, or just show up………it would be great if they were having one in Irving! That would be closer.

          • #735647

            I’d call here because the launch isn’t until Wednesday–gives you a couple days or just go. You’ll be fine.

            Microsoft SouthCentral Offices: Dallas (Las Colinas) , TX

            Address: 7000 SR-161(George Bush Turnpike), Irving, TX 75039
            Phone Number: (469) 775-0000
            Fax Number: (972) 233-7280

            October 29, 2003 (Wednesday) Austin-MS Office 2003 Launch. Location: Austin Hyatt Regency
            208 Barton Springs, Texas Ballroom 1-3 9:00AM -5:00PM.
            Recommend Audience: IT Professionals and all PC Users.

            This would be a more satisfactory out of the box (no pun was intended) solution to whether to get Student and Teachers because you’d end up with MOS 2003 Pro and Infopath.

            Good luck,

            SMBP

        • #735604

          I have not been able to get in a session in North Texas. The list is full…….do you know of any other options to gain an invitation?

      • #734667

        S, did you go to a launch event and get a free copy? I thought originally MS was offering only an evaluation kit, but the lastest inducement is:


        Get ready

    • #734657

      As to installing MSO 2003 and previous editions of Office, I put a number of questions on the Lounge to the MSO 2003 team at the launch today and relevant links and comments are below:

      Office 2003 Editions Frequently Asked Questions Published: October 20, 2003:

      Installation and Compatibility MOS Requires Win XP or W2KSP3[/u]

      On which versions of Windows can I install Office 2003 Editions? Office 2003 Editions require Microsoft Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 3 (SP3). Using these operating systems can enhance security and reliability, and many businesses already have them.

      At the launch, today, the Office team told me this:

      1) The MOS installer has been improved over other versions significantly to eliminate glitches and to make install as seamless as possible.

      2) The default install of MSOffice 2003 is going to clean and clean thorougly all previous editions or components of Office, previous set up files, and any registry entries that had to do with the previous Office install, all previous menu shortcuts.

      3) They reiterated Woody’s description and advice on any previous Beta installation material. It’s going to be cleaned off, and exactly for the reasons Woody explained in WOW 2003 6 October-Vol. 1 No. 8.

      The MSO 2003 Resource Kit’s Custom Installation Wizard[/u]

      4) Questions are springing up on the Lounge and NG’s that say this: I have X Previous Office and it has –say Access. If I install Y Edition of MSO 2003 how do I keep Access and avoid conflicts. Microsoft Office Teams answer to this today was:

      Go to the MS0 2003 Resource Kit Site and Use the Custom Installation Wizard. When the Customization Wizard runs, there will be a simple list of all the previous components. If you want to save Access from the previous edition, you simply check it and it will be saved.

      The Office team emphatically said that it is not necessary with the MS0 2003 configuration to deploy a separate folder. But I consider it valuable advice I could get from people who have installed many past Office editions and one more way to get it done.

      I looked for a screenshot or the slides to show this Wizard’s list but could not find any up on the web yet. It is not shown on the PP’s from MS on Office 2003 yet. When and if it is, I will ss it.

      Custom Installation can be carried to considerable extreme whether via GPO and Active Directory in an enterprise or on your destkop/notebook/laptop/tablet: See;

      Methods of Customizing Office

      SMBP

      Ed. SMBP: I meant to include the link for the Custom Installation Wizard which is within the toolkit in the:[/size][/b]

      Office Resource Kit Toolset

      Customizing Office 2003

      Office 2003 Resource Kit Toolbox

    • #735857

      SAN2003–

      Someone tested this situation for me, and you won’t need to download the Resource Kit to leave Access from your previous version on the PC. You will get the option to custom install and this will bring up the screen with the following choices:

      Remove all previous versions
      Keep all previous versions
      Remove only the following apps (lists found/installed previous versions)
      Also, there is a summary/review screen before any changes are made.

      SMBP

      • #735877

        SMBP
        sounds too easy, will be purchasing teacher and student edition soon, i’ll post results
        thank you all

        SAN2003

        • #735998

          This is pretty much the way it was with Office XP. What concerned me and I can’t reconcile is that at the launch, the Technet presenters were adamant when I sat down with them afterward that everything would be wiped out. But some Word MVP’s tested this last night and found that not to be the case. It’s real simple: When you set up if you don’t see a custom installation option with the screen to save Access or whatever you want to retain that isn’t in your 2K3S&T, which they say you will, then you stop and download the Custom Installation Wizard with the Resource Kit from the convenient links above. Let me know how it goes.

          SMBP

        • #735999

          This is pretty much the way it was with Office XP. What concerned me and I can’t reconcile is that at the launch, the Technet presenters were adamant when I sat down with them afterward that everything would be wiped out. But some Word MVP’s tested this last night and found that not to be the case. It’s real simple: When you set up if you don’t see a custom installation option with the screen to save Access or whatever you want to retain that isn’t in your 2K3S&T, which they say you will, then you stop and download the Custom Installation Wizard with the Resource Kit from the convenient links above. Let me know how it goes.

          SMBP

      • #735878

        SMBP
        sounds too easy, will be purchasing teacher and student edition soon, i’ll post results
        thank you all

        SAN2003

    • #735858

      SAN2003–

      Someone tested this situation for me, and you won’t need to download the Resource Kit to leave Access from your previous version on the PC. You will get the option to custom install and this will bring up the screen with the following choices:

      Remove all previous versions
      Keep all previous versions
      Remove only the following apps (lists found/installed previous versions)
      Also, there is a summary/review screen before any changes are made.

      SMBP

    • #738299

      Here is an update to my post on simultaneous versions with links and a confirmation from Eric Lawrence who is Program Manager Assistance and Worldwide Service for Microsoft Office.

      Post 308533 Installing Multiple Versions of Office Same Machine or Keeping Older Edition Components with Newer Office Version Lounge Thread November 1, 2003

      I also have taken this info below from Microsoft Office Systems 2003 Inside Out and similar info is in Special Edition Using Microsoft Office 2003 by Ed Bott & Woody Leonhard:

      In MOS 2003 the fourth setup box is a dialogue box that is “Type of Installation.” Your choices are

      Typical
      Complete
      Custom
      Minimal

      If you choose custom, you will see previous versions listed–they are automatically detected and you are given the clear option to keep them or not. To obtain an explanation of the type of options, simply click on Help on the lower left of the “currently displayed dialogue box.” The fifth dialogue box will be “Custom Set-Up” if you choose it. If there is a previous version, you’ll get a “Previous Version” dialogue box automatically. You must remove the previous version of Outlook.

      In drilling down on these setups, I have to say that Woody’s books, Office XP and Office 2003 something I really like besides the “Tips from Ed and Woody” which I consider gold nuggets–Woody knows the glitches that can confuse people who are not Office expert veterans and he really wants to make you comfortable in overcoming them if you need to and he has an eye out for this and showcases this kind of stuff–in a way that most people can understand.

      SMBP

      • #738313

        Many thanks SMBP- I certainly do appreciate the effort you have put into researching this issue. I am awaiting my copies of the latest Woody books, as the XP and Office XP editions have been a great resource for the uninitiated!.
        I had made the mistake of uninstalling Office XP, before installing 2003, but will follow your advice and start again armed with the information you have provided.

        • #738436

          You will often see people emphasize installing from oldest to newest–here Jefferson and Hans several times and the reason for installing oldest to newest is to basically keep from having file mismatches from common/shared files. These can often be resolved by running a ‘repair’ of the newer apps if an older app was installed last, but when you have a broken app that may not be the first thing that comes to mind . Woody’s Office books do a bang up job of getting into this.

          SMBP

        • #738437

          You will often see people emphasize installing from oldest to newest–here Jefferson and Hans several times and the reason for installing oldest to newest is to basically keep from having file mismatches from common/shared files. These can often be resolved by running a ‘repair’ of the newer apps if an older app was installed last, but when you have a broken app that may not be the first thing that comes to mind . Woody’s Office books do a bang up job of getting into this.

          SMBP

      • #738314

        Many thanks SMBP- I certainly do appreciate the effort you have put into researching this issue. I am awaiting my copies of the latest Woody books, as the XP and Office XP editions have been a great resource for the uninitiated!.
        I had made the mistake of uninstalling Office XP, before installing 2003, but will follow your advice and start again armed with the information you have provided.

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        SMBP
        I received student teacher edition from amazon ($122.99) today and installed it as you said. I was waiting for something to go wrong, but I did not encounter any visible problems. I kept access 2000 and replaced the other programs with the newer versions. Thanks for your help

        SAN2003

      • #743190

        SMBP
        I received student teacher edition from amazon ($122.99) today and installed it as you said. I was waiting for something to go wrong, but I did not encounter any visible problems. I kept access 2000 and replaced the other programs with the newer versions. Thanks for your help

        SAN2003

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      Here is an update to my post on simultaneous versions with links and a confirmation from Eric Lawrence who is Program Manager Assistance and Worldwide Service for Microsoft Office.

      Post 308533 Installing Multiple Versions of Office Same Machine or Keeping Older Edition Components with Newer Office Version Lounge Thread November 1, 2003

      I also have taken this info below from Microsoft Office Systems 2003 Inside Out and similar info is in Special Edition Using Microsoft Office 2003 by Ed Bott & Woody Leonhard:

      In MOS 2003 the fourth setup box is a dialogue box that is “Type of Installation.” Your choices are

      Typical
      Complete
      Custom
      Minimal

      If you choose custom, you will see previous versions listed–they are automatically detected and you are given the clear option to keep them or not. To obtain an explanation of the type of options, simply click on Help on the lower left of the “currently displayed dialogue box.” The fifth dialogue box will be “Custom Set-Up” if you choose it. If there is a previous version, you’ll get a “Previous Version” dialogue box automatically. You must remove the previous version of Outlook.

      In drilling down on these setups, I have to say that Woody’s books, Office XP and Office 2003 something I really like besides the “Tips from Ed and Woody” which I consider gold nuggets–Woody knows the glitches that can confuse people who are not Office expert veterans and he really wants to make you comfortable in overcoming them if you need to and he has an eye out for this and showcases this kind of stuff–in a way that most people can understand.

      SMBP

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