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By Fred Langa In just minutes, you can transform Word 2010 and other Office apps from general-purpose tools to custom software with exactly the features and functions you need.
Microsoft Word 2010, and all the Office 2010 and Office 2007 mainline applications, share a common interface that’s amazingly configurable, once you know the tricks.
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Hi there Fred,
Thanks so much for your Microsoft’s ribbons article. I had been going to get Office 10, but I think I won’t now. You see, the lack of customisability within the ribbons makes me far less productive. I find the ribbons are like wearing a straight-jacket: they are so narrow in their scope, and the number of tools that I normally use in Word would probably be easily what is available on the ribbons normally.
And I have to click through to another list to find the things I am looking for – I can’t remember them by location, because there are eight other things also in that location. Microsoft’s ‘grouping’ of tasks makes very little sense – and sometimes nonsense! – to my way of computing.
I mostly work from home, and purchased Office 7 for my home office and then didn’t install it because I couldn’t customise the Ribbons (I still have the brand new copy, unused, on my shelf). I use Office 7 at my ‘in-town’ workplace & loathe it. I am constantly having to ask other people in the office where to find things (as they also ask me, because none of us are suited by Redmond’s thought-processes).
Then I heard in your newsletter that Office 10 would have customisable ribbons. “Woo hoo!” I thought. But now my hopes are dashed; it is not really customisable at all
The TAQ looks OK, but it is also very limited. That alone can’t give me my normal 5 toolbars with 152 buttons, macros, drop downs & toolbar controls stacked around my screen (3 toolbars above, 1 left, 1 bottom).
Looks like Microsoft will have a long wait to get some more money out of me.
Regards
Klinkehoffen (Sam Young)
Thanks so much for your Microsoft’s ribbons article. I had been going to get Office 10, but I think I won’t now.
[INDENT]The ribbons can’t be customized for some good reasons. You can sit down at my computer and WORD or EXCEL ribbons will contain what it does on your own computer. Nothing irritated people more than having someone from IT ‘helpfully’ changing controls and locations. The ribbons are stupidly designed but I can cope. I do pity the occassional user who needs to freeze panes.
The QAT exists on WORD, EXCEL, and other programs in version 2007. It isn’t new. I like it. About the third time I spend time searching is when I grab a command and stick it on the QAT.
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I will add my voice to the anti-ribbon crowd. As an IT consultant, I have first hand experience observing just how well received the ribbon interface has been. With the exception of a single user that had never used the office apps before and didn’t find the ribbon interface all that bad, EVERY OTHER USER who either had used or was using the 2007 or 2010 version of Office told me they hate the new interface. In fact, most made a point of contacting me to tell me just how much they disliked it. Just about every one of them have uninstalled the ribbon version of Office and reverted back to Office 2003. Of the few that have stuck with it, the BEST report I heard came from a power user who has plugged away with the ribbon for over a year now. He stated that ‘he was now somewhat comfortable with it’ and that ‘he was almost back to being as productive as he was with Office 2003’. This is certainly NOT a ringing endorsement.
I have no problem with new and innovative solutions when they actually offer an improvement, but the ribbon is, unfortunately, not one of these. My customer base has made it very clear that they don’t want Office 2007 or Office 2010. I know the chances are slim to none that the classic interface will be resurrected, but perhaps with enough people complaining, Microsoft might take notice. I know Dell did. We sell enough Dell product to qualify for a dedicated sales team. They noticed that prior to Office 2003 being discontinued 99% of the systems we purchased had a version of Office on them. After Office 2003 could no longer be sold, that number dropped to under 3% and they were wondering why.
As for the add-in menu and toolbar replacements, the few we have purchased and worked with introduced stability and performance issues substantial enough to warrant their removal, or offered only a very basic implementation.
I found this link that will help me to copy the Excel QAT toolbar at work to my home PC. Very helpful!
http://www.rondebruin.nl/imageqat.htm
The link also shows how to setup a QAT for a single workbook as well as copy a customized QAT to anther workbook.
I assume that this may work for other Office programs as I can see Word.qat and Access.qat in the same location as Excel.qat on my PC.
Keith
“Word 2010 allows for some very minor tweaking of the Ribbon via the File/Options/Customize Ribbon menu”
How is it minor tweaking compared to what you can do to the QAT? One of the better features of 2010 is that you can customise the Ribbon from the UI, unlike 2007, and I find it odd to just dismiss that option out of hand. Also stating that 2007 does not allow you to customise the Ribbon is incorrect – it does, just not via the UI (other than code that adds buttons to the AddIns tab).
Fred,
I looked in the “All Commands” listing under “Choose Commands From” and do not see a “Minimize the Ribbon” command. Is one of us using an older/newer version of Word 2007? My version is shown in the picture below:
I think there’s a Service Pack for Word 2007 that my company has not installed, yet. Is this, perhaps, why I don’t have the “Minimize the Ribbon” command?
Thanks,
Ben
Fred,
Is there any way to change the colors or contrast of items on the QAT? For example, in Outlook 2007 many items like Bold, Italic, Underline, Font color, and others show up as light gray or bluish gray on somewhat darker gray, and Font size shows up as an empty box, although with a drop-down arrow. Actually being able to read the QAT easily would be an enormous help. (In Word 07 the commands in QAT are all easily readable. Why the difference?)
To minimize the ribbon you can either double-click a Title on the Ribbon, click the arrow at the right end of the ribbon bar or use Ctrl+F1 to toggle the ribbon. So that covers both mouse and keyboard users. Why do you want to find a Minimize Ribbon command?
However, if you Select ALL COMMANDS in the Options dialog, you will find Minimise Ribbon is listed.
The easiest way I know to alter the 2007 ribbon is with an addin by Patrick Schmid called RibbonCustomizer. It’s gone commercial but has a 30-day free trial. See pschmid.net for more information.
Other options exist. Microsoft has info on altering the XML markup that underlies the ribbon on MSDN. Search “customize office 2007 ribbon” for more.
RibbonCustomizer also adds a new tab to the ribbon with all the Office 2003 menus and toolbars. If that’s all you need, there are other options: ClassicMenu for Office 2007 at http://www.addintools.com and Toolbar Toggle at http://www.toolbartoggle.com.
I have Word 2003 still. I added exactly the functions I wanted to my right-click menu (spell check, font color, paste-special, format painter for instance). The rest are up there on my very customized toolbars. I have absolutely no trouble using Word set up this way. Convenient, speedy, everything I want right where I want it. Plus if I want, I can hide all toolbars and have all the screen real estate for my document. And still use the right click menu.
I also have Word 2007 – thought I was doing myself a huge favor by buying it and putting it on my new-at-the-time laptop. I hated it and still do – because of what they did to the toolbar (ribbon) and the QAT. I won’t bother with 2010.
INHO MS should quit “rethinking” and leave perfetly good stuff alone or give us the new ones with the option of using the old toollbars if we prefer them.
Useful article and I’ll probably add more to my QAT.
You didn’t mention that (in Excel anyway) you can specify that added items appear only for the current workbook – meaning that the QAT becomes partly context dependent.
Trouble is, I still prefer the old toolbar interface to the Ribbon. I actually find the Ribbon over fussy and complicated – and hard to find things you’ve lost track of. And last week it occurred to me that in Word 2003 I used to keep different modified toolbars at each edge of the window (top, bottom, left, right), around the page layout view. This seems to me to be a good use of space which is now nothing but empty space in almost all document displays.
My employer went so far as to buy in an add-in for everyone that provides the “classic” menu interface on Word & Excel 2007 so that you don’t have to use the ribbon if you don’t want to. Shows what conclusion their user-acceptance testing came to…
Perhaps some of you saw my letter to Walter Mossberg, published in the 9/16/2010 Wall Street Journal, in which I termed the Office 2007 Ribbon “one of the great abominations in the history of personal computing”. I stand by that assessment. Lest you think I am just opposed to anything new, I started programming in 1969 and bought my first home computer in 1986. I have seen a lot of stuff come and go, and I think the ribbon “user interface” is the worst piece of software I have ever seen in 42 years of using computers.
The only reasonable escapes from this are (1) use non-Microsoft products, if that is an option, (2) stick with Office 2003, as some commenters have already suggested, and (3) buy a third-party add-on for Office 2007/2010 that gives you the menus and toolbars back. There is at least one excellent add-on out there, which I will not name, since I’m not supposed to endorse products, and there may be others that I am not aware of.
I found an article on line which stated that, when Office 2007 was originally under development, Bill Gates himself insisted that it come with a “classic look” option. Then someone talked him out of it somehow. Maybe with Office 2013, Microsoft will finally come to its senses.
Hi, Fred…I’m a freelance tech writer and have written books about Word since Word 2.0. (Later, I started writing about Excel also.) So, a couple of things. First, like your article, all my comments apply to all Office 2010 apps, not just Word.
In 2010 (I don’t remember 2007) the Minimize the Ribbon button appears by default at the far right below the X that closes the active document (immediately to the left of the Help button). No need to add it to the QAT.
Second, you can customize the Ribbon much more than you imply. For example, you can add groups to existing Ribbon tabs and then add commands to those groups. You also can hide entire groups on the default Ribbon tabs. If you want to keep some commands and hide others, you can create your own group containing just the commands you want. Or, take things a step further and create your own Ribbon tabs, adding only the commands you want and grouping commands the way you want. You can, simultaneously hide the default Ribbon tabs. If you opt to create only one tab containing the commands you use the most, you can position it as the first tab so that it appears by default when you open the program. In an enterprise environment, you can save the customizations and import them to other machines so that everyone uses the same customizations (also true for the QAT). I could go on, but I don’t want to bore you.
(Many people prefer the QAT below the Ribbon because, when they then minimize the Ribbon, the interface closely resembles 2003 :rolleyes:).
Thanks,
Elaine Marmel
In Fred Langa’s article, “Unlock the power of the Quick Access Toolbar” he states in the 4th paragraph, “Most users understood Word only superficially and used only a fraction of its power.” Why then did MS think it had to remove the well understood menu system with the totally confusing Ribbon? Reading the different threads and other thoughts at different sites it appears the masses are against it, hate it, and are looking for asier alternatives with open software. I know I am.
The “Ribbon” may well go down as badly as Clippit. It’s less easy to customize than the menus under previous versions, annoying that one can only customize the QAT and not the Ribbon itself, and the commands are often illogically arranged in typical MS fashion. For instance, the Insert tab has Page Break, but to insert Section breaks you have to go to Page Layout. Cross-references are under both the Insert and the References tabs, but Insert Caption only under References.
Microsoft went backwards with their equations in a number of ways but most important is their lack of usable equation numbering and alignment. They treat equations like figures and you can only place the number above or below the equation. I’ve had to resort to a kluge of using a single-row, two-column table for each equation.
For some years now MS has been implementing cosmetic changes to their products to introduce another version and keep their cash flow. But they don’t fix old bugs nor make any real analysis of how users would like to use their products.
I also was pleased to see that Office 2010 allowed editing of the Ribbon, but when I tried it found it was too limited. Most importantly for me, I have in Office 2003 a few macros that I use daily and often, with toolbar buttons I have created for them with recognisable icons. The ability to code time-savers is, old-timers will recall, what computers were once for.
I moved all my personal icons into one toolbar and upgraded to 2010. But does my toolbar appear anywhere? Only via an extra Ribbon tab. I want them to be available all the time, not need two clicks to do what I used to do in one! So I tried putting them on the QAT. This worked, but there’s no way to customise the icons. So now I have a row of a dozen or more identical buttons. Useless.
Believe me, I am hardly up to Sam’s standard with his 5 customised toolbars and I quite like the Ribbon. The QAT would have satisfied me (despite lack of friendly features like separators) but it just falls too far short.
It is annoying that the Ribbon wastes so much space on useless stuff like Copy and Paste — why doesn’t Microsoft use the space to advertise Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V to the dumb newbies? — but if you remove that bit, you also lose Format Painter, which is a button I do use sometimes.
I know that programmers can code their own additions to the Ribbon, but it looks too complicated for me. I just went back to 2003 — which is still pretty good!
I also was pleased to see that Office 2010 allowed editing of the Ribbon, but when I tried it found it was too limited. Most importantly for me, I have in Office 2003 a few macros that I use daily and often, with toolbar buttons I have created for them with recognisable icons. The ability to code time-savers is, old-timers will recall, what computers were once for.
I moved all my personal icons into one toolbar and upgraded to 2010. But does my toolbar appear anywhere? Only via an extra Ribbon tab. I want them to be available all the time, not need two clicks to do what I used to do in one! So I tried putting them on the QAT. This worked, but there’s no way to customise the icons. So now I have a row of a dozen or more identical buttons. Useless.
Believe me, I am hardly up to Sam’s standard with his 5 customised toolbars and I quite like the Ribbon. The QAT would have satisfied me (despite lack of friendly features like separators) but it just falls too far short.
It is annoying that the Ribbon wastes so much space on useless stuff like Copy and Paste — why doesn’t Microsoft use the space to advertise Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V to the dumb newbies? — but if you remove that bit, you also lose Format Painter, which is a button I do use sometimes.
I know that programmers can code their own additions to the Ribbon, but it looks too complicated for me. I just went back to 2003 — which is still pretty good!
You can remove the Clipboard Group from the Home Ribbon and place the Format Painter onto the QAT. That leaves more room for extra Styles in the Styles Group. Personally, I get really annoyed by Cut/Copy/Paste commands filling all the Context Sensitive menus too.
I would also like to add my 2 cents worth. I think one point should be made which has not been touched on, namely use of the button bar for custom built programs.
I work for a company that does field research in crop science. This job entails a lot of work transforming and grooming data from weather stations, harvest equipment, GPS plotting, field data acquisition, and working with massive data dumps of research information of the mainframe. Of the office software, I use Excel probably 97% of the time, Word/PowerPoint/Outlook 3%.
I am currently using Excel 2003.
I have invested a huge amount of time over the last 10 years customizing Excel for these tasks.
I have written approx 150 programs I use as some type of standard or COM addin in Excel, ranging from a simple custom function to some that have 1000s of lines of code. Aside from some custom buttons on my standard toolbar, I have 4 additional toolbars, one for mainframe dump work, one for weather logger data grooming, one for annual data summary, and one for data grooming for submission to the federal government for new product registration. I call these up when I need them using the view/toolbars.
My understanding of the new interface is that aside from the QAT, there are no other toolbars allowed. Further, I understand the QAT is limited to the width of the interface – in other words it won’t wrap if buttons added make it too long.
I may be speaking from ignorance here. I have worked a minimal amount trying Office 2007 on my son’s machine, but I was underwhelmed. Our company is “upgrading” our systems to Win 7 with Office 2007 or 2010.
If my assumptions are correct, my plan is to install Office 2003 on an older personal machine and use the new machine for Outlook/email only.
I think the users who will be least affected are those that are occasional users who have not invested too much time in the previous interface.
My understanding of the new interface is that aside from the QAT, there are no other toolbars allowed.
Bitmonger, I’m like you with excel 2003 toolbars and macros, although nowhere near your level of numbers of additional icons. I would DEFINITELY NOT go with Office 2007l however, Office 2010 DOES allow you to create additional ribbon tabs and add macro buttons to those tabs – 2007 does NOT allow this. One thing I STILL find annoying about 2010 is that you can not modify or add your own icons that are attached to your maco buttons; i.e, there is no image editor like there is in the 2003 toolbar editor. You can also attach your macros to new user selectable icons in either the QAT or your new ribbon tab, you just cannot edit those icons or add your own icon images anymore.
One other note is that 2010 seems to be a little faster than 2007.
Thanks for the truly helpful article. In the end, however, I had to laugh because when all was said and done (the QAT customized, adjusted, and the ribbon hidden), it was like using Word 6 with lots of new bells and whistles! I LIKE IT! Like a pair of old, comfy slippers with a new satin lining.
great article! I use the QAT in excel a lot. I have created buttons on the QAT for a number of macros that I created for my excel work. but I still have a couple of issues I could use help with.
1) there seems to be no way to create a custom butto. you have to pick from the set MS provides.
2) the QAT would be much easier to use if I could rep[osition it to the bottom of my screen. thats where the tabs are for the worksheets. when I use my macros to move/format data between worksheets, I have to move back and for from top to bottom all the time. It would be really handy to have the QAT and the worksheet tabs on the same edge of the screen.
Still the QAT has ncreased my productivity.
I bought Office 2007, tried to use it for a month, then went back to 2003. I hid the ribbon and used the quick access toolbar. Big problem that (i) it only has one row for icons, and (ii) the icons are not customizable. How could MS make such a catestrophic mistake? I had three rows of menu andmacros in 2003.
I recently bought a new computer, so thought I would check whether Office2010 corrected these problems – the shop convinced me that it did, but it doesn’t. No wrapping QAT, no customizable macro buttons. So have gone back again to 2003 – another £60 down the drain, curses!
When I retire, I will head straight for OpenOffice. BTW I used the first MS word processor in 1980 on a Dulmont Magnum – the world’s first notebook. So I am really sad to see MS lose the plot with its stupid ribbon – office for dummies! – hopeless as a program for professional use IMO.
Why put anything on the QAT that you have a keyborad short cut. Your prime exsample “Spellcheck”, the use of the “F7” key would be faster than using the QAT. Not only that, I would not clutter up the QAT with things I did not use much.
Remember that you have just so much room to use.
DaveA I am so far behind, I think I am First
Genealogy....confusing the dead and annoying the living
I found this link that will help me to copy the Excel QAT toolbar at work to my home PC. Very helpful!
http://www.rondebruin.nl/imageqat.htm
The link also shows how to setup a QAT for a single workbook as well as copy a customized QAT to anther workbook.
I assume that this may work for other Office programs as I can see Word.qat and Access.qat in the same location as Excel.qat on my PC.
Keith
According to MS the logic behind the change was that over 90% (ish) of feature requests they had for Office were for features that already existed but users couldn’t find them. From what I’ve seen most novice users like the Ribbon after a period of acclimatisation. The rest of us, not so much, though you do sort of get used to it.
The Ribbon and the QAT appear to have been designed for the novice user of Office products. Unfortunately, this ease-of-use concept also breeds complacency and a novice user becomes forced to stay as a ‘novice’ for life. I fully sympathize with the fact that whether there are a thousand or two-thousand commands, the Office suite is not a simple text editor. I am not certain of the demographics or the ratio between novice/power users, but a novice (almost by definition) is a user who may not possess the time, the patience, the desire, the curiosity, and/or the inclination to master the intricacies and the capabilities of such a complex program set.
Unfortunately, implementation of this ‘simplified’ {dumb-down?} UI punishes those who can be considered Office power users.
The worst part of this Grand Unification Theory for the Office suite User Interface can be proven in Visio: I am going to venture to state that Visio is a much more complex Office application then Word. The implementation of this Ribbon/QAT has rendered Visio a disparate application that is now as simple as a Lego-set and a niche utility for block diagrams.
As referenced by Gordon Nash in post#20, there are some available Win7/Office2007 add-ons to revert back to the older (ummm… Classic) Menu styles.
Without such utilities, the power users are forced to be shackled at the wrists, since it has been decided that ‘we’ don’t need no stinkin’ pull-down menus!
FWIW: If speed of accessibility for QAT is an issue for the power user, it may be better to relocate the QAT under the Ribbon, as it does not want to be pinned to left/right sides of a wide-screen monitor for optimizing the vertical useful space.:huh:
Fred: I was an avid reader of the Langa Report and was happy to see your return in Windows Secrets. Over the years, I’ve found your writing style and topic selection to be unequaled either in the print media or on-line. Keep up the good work!
Indeed — “one of the great abominations in the history of personal computing” — I couldn’t agree more!!
Beginning with a 2-floppy disk PC, an amber monitor, and a DOS manual , I too have been computing for decades. And nothing has been more irritating than MS’s new ribbon change — nothing! At the very least, a classic menu could have been an option provided by MS.
After moving from Lotus 123 to Excel, I created my own menu buttons saved within the .xlb file which transition from one Excel version to another, and early into Office 2007 use, managed to modify the QAT. However, I never quite understood MS’s icon laziness — why in the world are we presented with identical blank green icons (e.g., autofit column width vs autofit row heigth; fill series etc.)?
Fred: I’ve seen hints that the icons are changeable, but would like an explanation of how to replace the green blank icons with something/anything that would allow one to distinguish one button from the other.
Cheers,
-Mike
I’ve had Office 2007 for 2 years, with a new computer. I’m still trying to find how to do things I did in earlier versions. When the computer arrived, I discovered that there were no “Open” or “Save” buttons. I had to go to File – Open, or File – Save. I eventually found how to create a custom toolbar and added those buttons, along with Print Preview and Print. Sure seems like these basic functions should have been in the detault ‘Home’ ribbon.
I agree with those grousing about the ribbon. I’m a power user, have been using it regularly for a long time, and still find it frustrating and non-intuitive. The biggest irritation in my mind is that the QAT is mouse-centric. I hate being forced to use the mouse. I am much much faster if I never have to take my hands off the keyboard. I used to have customized menus to handle the things I do over and over – that meant I could do things in two-three keystrokes (Alt-x-z). You can use keystrokes to get at commands added to the QAT but I don’t know how to customize those keystrokes – is that possible? I’d love to hear how. In the meantime I can memorize a few numbers to get at the things I do the most often but that is no where near as useful as keystrokes that actually correspond to meaningful words, which I could accomplish in the old drop-down menus.
Fred,
As a long-time LangaList reader, this is one the rare occasions where I strongly disagree with you – an Office ribbon is very easy to customize. The trick is to create your own tab and fill it with your favorite commands. This offers several advantages over the Quick Access Toolbar: (1) you can group commands in a logical order with a group name that you choose below each group, (2) the names of each icon can be displayed, (3) you can’t use display fields like font name and font size in a QAT, and (4) you would probably tend to display more named and ordered icons in a ribbon than you would in a 1-line string of unnamed QAT icons. I think you like a long string of unnamed icons, I don’t. I use and customize the QAT, but I usually have 6 or 8 icons in it, not 30. If you want your newly created tab to be your default tab, just move it up above the Home tab so that it’s the first tab in line.
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The only advantage to me of the QAT is that it doesn’t take up much real estate, but that’s it. I don’t think your article presented both sides of the story.
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No, I’m afraid not (though just pressing Alt shows you the numbers you need rather than having to memorise them)
Bear in mind that 2010 is effectively Ribbon v.2 and it generally takes MS about 3 versions to start getting something right. 2010’s Ribbon is a lot better than 2007 (in spite of the implication of the article) and hopefully Office 15’s will be better still, as there is a long way to go yet.
If you can write COM add-ins I would be surprised if the XML required to create your own ribbon tabs gave you much pause. You can add whatever images you like to the ribbon (you can to the QAT too, if you are prepared to use XML, though it loses them if you subsequently customise it again – hopefully the next version might allow this again).
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