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Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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Susan Bradley wrote:

Blocking new outlook

Here’s the good news.

What’s the advantage of blocking new Outlook and leaving Windows 10 or Windows 11 without any built-in program to handle emails and calendars?

New Outlook is for everyone. Now everyone with Windows gets the best of Outlook built into Windows for free. No subscription needed.

Why use new Outlook

What’s new in new Outlook for Windows

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I already have a calendar program in the form of Outlook classic.

Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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That doesn’t answer the question for most people (Windows users without Office 365/Pro/Business).

Don’t you already have new Outlook anyway, or are you refusing to even look at it?

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I believe there is an error in the registry key you used in this article to prevent the installation of Outlook (new) in Windows 10.  The value of the UScheduler_Oobe key is not “[\”MS_OUTLOOK\”]”.  According to Microsoft the value is [“MS_Outlook”].  The link to the Microsoft post is here.

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Use the links here

https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/7000002-blocking-new-outlook-from-installing/

It’s WAY eaiser.

Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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I’m not asking for links on how to do this.  I’m alerting you to the text in this article that doesn’t reference a batch file or other means of adding the registry key (which your links do).  In this current article you say:

Here’s the good news. If you put the following registry key in place ahead of time, Outlook (new) will not install automatically and will respect the block.

If you are currently using Outlook (classic) and don’t block the installation, Outlook (new) will install, but will not automatically replace, your existing Outlook application.

Simply put in the following registry key ahead of time:

• Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
• [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsUpdate\Orchestrator\UScheduler_Oobe] “BlockedOobeUpdaters”=”[\”MS_OUTLOOK\”]”

For those people who can create the registry key on their own without using the tools referenced in your links, isn’t the value of “[\”MS_OUTLOOK\”]” incorrect?  Shouldn’t it be [“MS_Outlook”] if you’re creating the key “from scratch” without the help of the tools referenced in the links you provided?

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Bill Vallance wrote:

For those people who can create the registry key on their own without using the tools referenced in your links…

In addition to a .reg file’s content the post also clearly displays what a user would see in the registry editor. That seems clear enough to me and I would hope that someone comfortable enough to edit the registry directly would understand the difference.

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Great point – and absolutely true for seasoned registry users.  It’s the “beginners” who I think might miss what’s displayed in Susan’s registry image.  Either way, we’ve given them a couple of ways to see what should be present :>).

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EricB wrote:

In addition to a .reg file’s content the post also clearly displays what a user would see in the registry editor.

At the link that says, “If you would rather download the registry key and apply it, take a look at …”?

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I just realized that you were using the command line Registry Editor.  I always use the GUI Registry Editor and that’s what I was considering when I wrote my comment.  You are absolutely correct that if the command line Registry Editor is being used that [“\MS_OUTLOOK\”] is correct.  Sorry for the confusion.

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Don’t apologize – this new style of doing registry keys is making all of us go…. say what?  Several of us on various email threads including social media were having to confirm what was going on.

Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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I use MS Office 2016, which includes its own version of Outlook. That version appears to be completely separate from Outlook (new), which is also installed. Under what circumstances would Outlook (new) replace or interfere with my Outlook 2016?

(Sorry if this is not posted in the right place. If that is the case, please tell me where to post it.)

 

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Depending on the subscription, Microsoft is pushing some of us to Outlook new.  You can go back to old Outlook but you first have to realize that it got changed.

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I’m using Outlook (classic) in Win10 by way of Microsoft 365 Apps for Business.  After reading this, I checked and see Outlook (new) in the Start > Apps  list now, though I have not launched it.

Given Susan’s statement in the article, “If you put the following registry key in place ahead of time, Outlook (new) will not install automatically and will respect the block.“, will running an uninstall from the Start > Apps  list remove it enough to have the cited regedit entries work since the change would not be “ahead of time” anymore?

FWIW, the MS 365 Apps version listed in appwiz.cpl is 16.0.18324.20194, installed four days ago.

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