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    #2357370

    My laptop’s battery died   so I already ordered a new one

    what I want to know are there some tips to use the laptop without the battery to protect it fom unexpected Outages or sudden disconnections?

    (my battery will arrive next week and I know there are signs of storms near my area)

    Just someone who don't want Windows to mess with its computer.
    • This topic was modified 4 years ago by Zaphyrus.
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    • #2357374

      The best solution is a backup battery, either in the laptop or in a UPS. Anything else is a small desktop. 🙂

      cheers, Paul

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    • #2357380

      All my computing gear (laptop, printer, 2 external HDDs, loudspeakers,..) are connected to a UPS.

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    • #2357412

      Iv’e run a laptop for over 12 years without the battery installed, and it’s still going strong. I recommend a Surge Protector on the mains socket connecting to the Laptop
      Actually we have Surge Protectors on all connected valuable electronics in the home.

      Windows - commercial by definition and now function...
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    • #2357443

      Thank you all threee I think I have ome surge protectors.

      Just someone who don't want Windows to mess with its computer.
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      • #2357444

        While you’re at it, it may be worthwhile changing the power saving policy to high performance when using the mains supply only 😉
        Just remember to switch it back when the battery is installed.

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    • #2357487

      When a bad storm with high wind and lightning comes up then I turn all electronics off at my residence.  I don’t entirely trust my surge protectors.

      Being 20 something in the 70's was far more fun than being 70 something in the insane 20's
    • #2357634

      I can confirm what Microfix said about running without a battery. I’ve run both of my laptops without batteries for years to keep the heat down and preserve the longevity of the components, and they’re both fine. Just be careful not to knock the power lead out!

      On the subject of surge protectors, it’s important to be aware that not all surge protectors are created equal. Surge protectors come with a rating in joules saying how much they can withstand, and this varies wildly between brands. I personally use the APC brand, which I’ve found to be the best in the UK, but better brands may be available where you live.

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    • #2357641

      It’s fine, just have a good image your disk available to restore if severe corruption occurs from power loss.

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    • #2357646

      severe corruption occurs from power loss

      Usually it is the hardware (motherboard, HDDs..) that are hit the most after a power spike..
      Only a UPS can protect your system.

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      • #2357654

        Alex, I think that Anonymous was referring to a power loss, for example if the computer gets accidentally disconnected. So no spike, just a sudden, total loss of power.

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    • #2358306

      Of course you are talking about the main battery, not the coin-type battery on the motherboard, right?

      I have an old Thinkpad that has gone without a main  for many years.  I finally bought a new battery for it when I updated the BIOS from Lenovo’s version to “Middleton” and I thought it that was an inexpensive way to protect against a power failure during the very few minutes required for that BIOS update.  Since then I have used the battery a few times when I used the laptop on the road, but most of the time that machine stays on one desk with the battery removed.  No problem.

       

      • #2358463

        Naturally its impossible to use a computer without that kind of battery. of course I mean the power battery one.

        Just someone who don't want Windows to mess with its computer.
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    • #2358621

      There have been times when the power went out without any warning in my neighborhood. This usually results from someone slamming into a power pole somewhere along the road.  I quickly turn the master power supply switch off on my desktop or unplug the AC adapter from my laptops. I’ve never suffered any damage to my computers’ motherboard, etc. When the power came back on and stayed on, I turned on the computers and they booted up okay but usually asked to do a system check first.

      Being 20 something in the 70's was far more fun than being 70 something in the insane 20's
    • #2362316

      There is no reason why a laptop wouldn’t work just fine without the battery in it, as long as you take a few aspects into account.

      First of all, make sure you’re using the original power adapter that came with the laptop. Power variations could cause components on the laptop’s motherboard to fail, which is something that the battery can prevent, by acting the way a UPS would.

      And speaking of power, you probably shouldn’t use a laptop without a battery if you live in an area where high-intensity electrical loads are likely. If you know that you don’t have good quality electrical current, don’t do this, or use a UPS too. That way you can make sure that your laptop doesn’t suffer any damage in the event of a high load. Not to mention a UPS is essential anyway as you won’t lose your work in the case of a power outage, and they act as a surge protector too.

      Another important thing is never to remove the power cord from the laptop when the laptop is working, as that could cause damage to its components.

      Also, don’t touch the battery contacts when it’s plugged in. They are well hidden in the case of most laptops, but you could get a bit of a jolt. It’s pretty low-voltage — most of them are at 24V maximum.

      And remember only to take out the battery when the laptop is turned off and unplugged.

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      • #2363548

        what happens when we do it  turned on?

        Just someone who don't want Windows to mess with its computer.
        • #2363559

          Kinda like getting knocked out but not knowing it until later! i.e. Memory loss, Concussion, leaks, and similar issues can occur next time you reboot perhaps ; >)

          If there is magic on this earth ... it's in the water.

        • #2363582

          Same as a power failure for your desktop. Probably no damage, but you may lose data.

          cheers, Paul

    • #2365915

      Even if you were unplugging your battery after charging to 100%, not discharging regularly and keeping it at 100% will degrade it’s maximum charge capacity.

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