Time to block automatic updates UNLESS you’re on Win10 version 1803

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I can’t recall the last time I recommended that folks allow Windows to install updates automatically, but if you got stuck with Win10 1803 — and you
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However you feel about W10, one has to stand with bemusement at the way Microsoft continues to ‘wordsmith’ their actions. The moniker ‘Seeker” to denote any unfortunate party to check for updates in the normal historical sense, only to find a new pretense to rerun the GWX scam. This kind of stuff would would even make the Cheshire Cat blush.

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I don’t understand making this stuff go out to the public with bugs that were reported by Insider’s and either ignored or never fixed in time for 1803 release. No excuse to crank this stuff out to meet a self proclaimed deadline. Just for some features that have not really inspired a whole lot of interest.

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dononline, Great Lake Bunyip, woody

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Yeah, I made the mistake Monday of checking for Defender updates and of course ended up with 1803. Well actually its been pretty uneventful for what has been happening. Thought about going back to 1709 but that can be a bit of a gamble too.

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I have tried the “Metered Connection” method on my Win10 1709 Home, but Win10 must know that I do not have a metered connection and has grayed out that option.  I have Comcast Internet with a 60 mbps download speed.

Terry

 

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You have to sign-in as Administrator to change the metered connection settings.

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I have updated to 1803 on home and professional, I personally have not had any issues with either one.

Just FYI

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1803 working for me with no problems, better experience with windows 10 for me with 1803 than with the previous versions since the anniversary update, reasonably reliable, can’t fault.

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I’m running 1803 and have zero issues. Not sure about these problems you’ve heard about but it’s running great for me.

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TOMORROW is the day….I will hide 1803 once 12pm strikes, and THEN use WUShowHide to scan and hide 1803 and the other patch updates. I will not let 1803 try to corrupt my computer or do anything weird to it.

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Windows 10 Meltdown patches have a fatal flaw
Alex Ionescu, a security researcher for the cybersecurity company Crowdstrike, has revealed that Microsoft’s recent Windows 10 patches for the Meltdown chip vulnerability have had a fatal flaw.
https://twitter.com/aionescu/status/991675604469669890

Ionescu explained the flaw in a tweet stating that “calling NtCallEnclave returned back to user space with the full kernel page table directory, completely undermining the mitigation.”

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Yep. It’s yet another security hole introduced by Microsoft’s Meltdown patches. Supposedly it’s been fixed in Win10 version 1803, but all other versions of Win10 are vulnerable.

Catalin Cimpanu has a good overview — and a response from Microsoft — on BleepingComputer.

I’ve heard that the fix for Win10 1703 and 1709 will NOT appear on this month’s Patch Tuesday. Apparently we’ll have to wait for it.

Keep in mind that there are still no known in-the-wild exploits for either Meltdown or Spectre, much less for this bug introduced by the Meltdown patches. That’s in marked contrast to Total Meltdown — another bug introduced by Microsoft’s patches to Meltdown — which has exploit code available on GitHub.

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Hi Woody,

Win 10 home 1803 user/seeker here.

I noticed after doing the upgrade last week that several Nvidia drivers updated.  Seemed normal to me. Computer is working great.

This morning I checked Windows Update and three Nvidia drivers (audio, video, and video 3-D?) were there and they downloaded and installed. Again it looks like the computer is working fine.

Just wondering if it makes sense that the Nvidia would push out drivers twice in a week?

I am at work and do not have the version numbers handy.

Thanks!

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Nvidia has released a hotfix that you can find on their forum to address the issue.  It is an issue with the driver being removed after the machine is idle for a period of time.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1051755/geforce-drivers/announcing-geforce-hotfix-driver-397-55/

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Cumulative Update KB4103721 1803-05 x86 downloaded from Catalog and first run did two re-boots (15% and 30%), got to 100% and then “couldn’t complete update – undoing changes.”

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You will have better luck if you install the CU through Windows Update.

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Thanks.  That did the trick!  So, what’s the point of the Catalog if we can’t trust it?

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The Catalog can be trusted if you know what you are doing. It is not meant for use by general users. It is there for IT Professionals.

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Updates installed – new build: 17134.48

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Peabody here.

The following were installed:

• May 8, 2018—KB4103718 (Monthly Rollup)
• Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 3.5.1, 4.5.2, 4.6, 4.6.1, 4.6.2, 4.7, and 4.7.1 updates for Windows 7 SP1 and Server 2008 R2 SP1 (KB 4099633)

There appear to be no immediate side effects.
The computer rebooted.
The computer functions normally and without error.

On permanent hiatus {with backup and coffee}
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Peabody here explanation:
Peabody was a dog cartoon character from Peabody and Sherman which was in turn part of the cartoon suite of Rocky and Bullwinkle. Peabody usually opened with “Peabody here.”
–Another glorified piece of older-than-dirt culture

On permanent hiatus {with backup and coffee}
offline▸ Win10Pro 2004.19041.572 x64 i3-3220 RAM8GB HDD Firefox83.0b3 WindowsDefender
offline▸ Acer TravelMate P215-52 RAM8GB Win11Pro 22H2.22621.1265 x64 i5-10210U SSD Firefox106.0 MicrosoftDefender
online▸ Win11Pro 22H2.22621.1992 x64 i5-9400 RAM16GB HDD Firefox116.0b3 MicrosoftDefender

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KB4103718 after updating my Win 7 32bit PC next day I found I could not RDP to my 2012R2 PDC server. Error ” an authentication error has occurred the function requested is not supported” – could RDP to 2008R2 servers.

Uninstalling KB4103718 re-enable my RDP login. Seems that this patch is for some vulnerability that could exist in the credentials, however as usual MS expects all to Auto-update and the Fix is to update my server too! I don’t do this automatically!! Do I want all my kit to grind to halt? Just thought I’d warn you.

MayfieldPhil

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KB4107321 installed on Patch Tuesday on 2 machines, got me stuck in endless startup. on one I could do system restore(other failed on restore), had to boot in Safe mode(twice whilst it reverted the failed update), run chkdsk /f /r before fixed. Needless to say, I now have delayed updates for 35 days till MS decides to fix their broken update. Forums also show many users experiencing similar issues.

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KB4103721 is bricking computers.

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Do you by any chance have any StopCodes/error messages? Can you describe the symptoms> Some substantiating evidence?

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My computer is hung on a black screen after the restart. Checking reddit and the Microsoft community forums, many other users are having the same issue too.

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It would be helpful to know which version of Windows you have!

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Windows 10 1803 Home, this happened after KB4103721 was automatically downloaded and installed via Windows Update.

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geekdom wrote:

Peabody here. The following were installed:

• May 8, 2018—KB4103718 (Monthly Rollup)
• Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 3.5.1, 4.5.2, 4.6, 4.6.1, 4.6.2, 4.7, and 4.7.1 updates for Windows 7 SP1 and Server 2008 R2 SP1 (KB 4099633)

There appear to be no immediate side effects. The computer rebooted. The computer functions normally and without error.

Like Peabody, on my Win 7 Pro 64-bit, I also see KB 4099633, which is NOT in Susan Bradley’s Master Patch List BY ITSELF.  However, it seems to include KBs 4095874, 4096495 and 4096418, all three of which Susan lists as “None [issues] at this time”.  (See this link from Susan.)  I’ll watch these here for a while before installing.  Thanks.

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glnz wrote:

Like Peabody…

That’s fine, I’ll answer to Peabody.

On permanent hiatus {with backup and coffee}
offline▸ Win10Pro 2004.19041.572 x64 i3-3220 RAM8GB HDD Firefox83.0b3 WindowsDefender
offline▸ Acer TravelMate P215-52 RAM8GB Win11Pro 22H2.22621.1265 x64 i5-10210U SSD Firefox106.0 MicrosoftDefender
online▸ Win11Pro 22H2.22621.1992 x64 i5-9400 RAM16GB HDD Firefox116.0b3 MicrosoftDefender

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geekdom – I certainly remember Rocky and Bullwinkle from my black and white TV-sated youth.  Peabody is an honorable name!

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Newbie here. Call me Lily. I’ve only visited the site until now. I have Windows 7 SP1 (2010, Toshiba, AMD). I didn’t install any monthly rollups this year until the April one earlier this week. I’ve hid the May one for now. I’m currently installing KB4099633 (May .Net rollup), which I hope works. Anyway, the April 2018 link in the master patch list doesn’t go to the list here on AskWoody.com but to a Microsoft blog post. It needs to be fixed!

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Hello Lily, and welcome!

Clicking on the patch number in the Master Patch List is supposed to take you to the Microsoft Knowledge Base article about it. AskWoody’s Knowledge Base articles are different, and don’t try to individually address each patch.

Susan Bradley keeps the Master Patch list up to date with the most current information she has available, however, most people here follow the Defcon system for updating, which means waiting until Woody gives us the all clear.

If you were trying to do Group B updating (the only ones that have a direct link to Microsoft, to download… maintained by PKCano) that is found at Knowledge Base Article 2000003 Ongoing List of Group B Monthly Updates for Win 7 and 8.1.

If you are doing Group A updating (recommended for most people by Woody), check out MS Defcon 3 Apply April Patches, and Knowledge Base Article 2000004 How to Apply the Win 7 and 8.1 Monthly Rollups. The MS Defcon 3 Apply April Patchs article was issued on April 27th, and that was when most of us applied April patches.

You may already know all of that from visiting here… just trying to make sure you feel welcome and what the resources are.

Non-techy Win 10 Pro and Linux Mint experimenter

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Lily here. I didn’t mean the patch number. I meant the April 2018 link on the page below (which has since been fixed). Before, it went to Microsoft. Now, it goes to AskWoody.

https://www.askwoody.com/patch-list-master/

I’m group W, not A or B. I’m independent. I do what I want when I want, based on reasonable advice. Anyway, both KB4093118 and KB4099633 worked for me with no problems. I’ve hidden KB4103718.

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