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Runs on Windows, MacOs and Linux.
Why Betterbird?
Betterbird aims at providing a better user experience by fixing annoying bugs in Thunderbird and implementing new features. We will submit all changes to upstream to eventually benefit Thunderbird. So far, Thunderbird has accepted these changes recently with more pending acceptance.
Is Betterbird for me?
If you like Thunderbird but are discouraged by too many bugs, then give Betterbird a try. It is 100% compatible with Thunderbird’s ESR version. You can install the same dot release of Thunderbird in parallel and switch between Betterbird and Thunderbird on the same profile without problems and without needing the -allow-downgrade command line switch.
Will my add-ons work?
Yes, what runs in Thunderbird will run in Betterbird, you can install add-ons directly in-product from addons.thunderbird.net.
Who is behind Betterbird?
Betterbird is headed by Thunderbird’s former maintainer who has been joined by a group of people who share the view that users deserve a better experience and who do not agree with the approach of the Thunderbird management.
Release Notes (Windows. Based on Thunderbird 102.1.1)
Betterbird is a fine-tuned version of Mozilla Thunderbird, Thunderbird on steroids, if you will.
Betterbird is better than Thunderbird in three ways: It contains new features exclusive to Betterbird, it contains bug fixes exclusive to Betterbird and it contains fixes that Thunderbird may ship at a later stage. Please refer to this feature table for examples. This should give you an impression of where the project is headed.
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Thunderbird 102.3.1 Update
Released to update channels 29th Sept 2022High security Vulnerabilities fixed with this update:
Ref Mozilla Foundation Security Advisory 2022-43These are CVE-2022-39249, CVE-2022-39250, CVE-2022-39251, and CVE-2022-39236
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Thunderbird 102.13.0 all platforms
* Thunderbird 115.0 is right around the corner! The “Supernova” UI features provide an updated user interface and is designed to be more modern, customizable, and with code that is easier to maintain and improve.
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Info on Mozilla Thnderbird Supernova UI and features. I’ll be holding off for a while and sticking with a version that just works. YMMV
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Thunderbird 115 Supernova released
Thunderbird version 115.0 is only offered as direct download from thunderbird.net and not as an upgrade from Thunderbird version 102 or earlier.
https://www.ghacks.net/2023/07/11/thunderbird-115-released-with-updated-ui-and-major-changes/
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Thanks Alex5723, I am glad it is NOT a direct upgrade from version 102.13.0 the latest version that I am currently on, because even though it is not designated as a “Beta” at this time, it looks like Thunderbird 115 has a LOT of changes that will take a while to get used to, and there may be some learning curve to adjust to. The comments at ghacks make me think it will probably be months before I feel like “upgrading” to this version. Hopefully people will post their experiences with this New Thunderbird 115.
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Warning, new Thunderbird 115 Blog post dated July 17, 2023 mentions automatic updating along with other new information:
Getting Started With The Main Window of Thunderbird 115 Supernova
“During the next several weeks, you should begin to see your installation of Thunderbird 102 automatically update to Thunderbird 115. Whether you’re upgrading or coming in as a brand new user, now is the perfect time to introduce you to the various elements of the software. This guide will introduce you to the main window of Thunderbird (in its Classic layout and new “Vertical Cards” layout), get you familiar with the terminology, and help you navigate Thunderbird like a pro!”
Good information with picture explanations about starting the “Learning Curve” on new User Interface Main Window. Note that the blog post mentions “Thunderbird 102 automatically update” – I have decided to defer the upgrade for awhile. If you haven’t already, maybe it would be a good idea to change Thunderbird settings concerning “Automatic Updates” by going to Tools > Settings > General > Scroll Down > to Updates – and check the circle for “Check for updates, but let me choose whether to install them”. Of course, early adopters are valuable and highly appreciated, thank you for posting your experience with this new UI for Thunderbird 115.
Well, it’s now September 3rd, and as @Alex5723 has pointed out right above here in this post, the FINAL version of Thunderbird 102 has been released, as version 102.15. I believe that the only updates to 102.15 will be for something that completely crashes T’Bird, or possibly a zero day security vulnerability.
Because of the aforementioned, everyone running T’Bird 102 needs to keep in mind that Mozilla has said that T’Bird’s releases (release dates) are based upon the ESR schedule of Firefox. That release schedule has the next version of Firefox ESR being released on September 26th, about 3½ weeks from now, as version 115.3.
Since T’Bird 102 won’t be getting any more version updates nor any security updates beyond 102.15.something, it’s reasonable to presume that between now and September 26th, those of us running 102 (myself included 😳 ) will be, in one way or another, offered Thunderbird 115.2, referred to as Supernova. If the offer happens after September 26th, you might even be offered Thunderbird 115.3.
Right now would be a great time to bookmark the link and read the guidance given in @Lars220 ‘s post above. The page at that link has some great info about the new interface and how to tweak it to your own liking. 🙂
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Thunderbird 102 to 115 upgrades are now enabled
Thunderbird 115 is the latest major version of the open source email client. Users of the application, who wanted to upgrade to the new version, had to download and install Thunderbird 115 to do so, up until now.
This changes today, as the email client’s automatic updating system is now offering to upgrade Thunderbird 102 installations to version 115.
The updates are not done automatically, as users of the email client need to seek for the Thunderbird 115 update manually. A click on Help > About Thunderbird opens a small popup window that lists the current installed version and any update that is available at the time…
Thunderbird 115 is the last release version for the Microsoft Windows operating systems Windows 7 and Windows 8 / 8.1…
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I just received a notification from Wired, which reports that “you need to update your browser, like, yesterday.” Thunderbird is on the list and I updated. I am now on 102.15.1. I haven’t seen any mention of this updated version yet in this ‘Thunderbird updates’ topic, though, so here’s a ‘heads up’ on 102.15.x.
Just last 2 posts above yours 🙂
The last two above mine are about 115. My post is about 102. I guess I should have put a red square around “102.15.1” to redirect attention in the screenshot to that. Thunderbird automatically tells you about the new 115 version now, if you want to move up to the new Supernova version, but I’m staying on 102 as long as I can.
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…but I’m staying on 102 as long as I can.
Well, per Mozilla’s release calendar, September 26th is the release date for the next iteration of Firefox, and the T’Bird release calendar is loosely based upon that. I say loosely because Mozilla has come out and said on one of their release information pages that deals with a release calendar that T’Bird’s release dates are up to a few days after the Firefox release dates. Mozilla has publicly stated that 102.15 is the LAST version of the 102 branch, and it won’t receive any more updates of any kind after 115.3 is released.
Here’s the Firefox release calendar (despite the url, it IS a Mozilla page):
https://whattrainisitnow.com/calendar/
And here’s the page where T’Bird’s release dates are mentioned, complete with the statement about following in Firefox’s “footsteps” (my term, not theirs):
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases
Look under the “Upcoming Releases” heading on the Releases page, and you’ll see the terminology referring to T’Bird’s release schedule.
I hope this helps!
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Well, I took the plunge last weekend after having T’Bird 102.15.0 compact my mail folders (File>Compact Folders). I clicked the button to upgrade to 115.2 in the image that you showed in your post above (since your image is more recent, the button shows 115.2.2 instead of what I saw, 115.2) and away it went. The entire process took about two or three minutes (if that) and I got the same screen layout I had in 102.15.
PRIOR to the “migration”, I made notes of the settings I might have to change after the upgrade, but I only wound up having to change two of them, both very minor changes.
EDIT: The notes I made for my settings consisted of two or three items in the Settings menu area that I thought I might have to change and items dealing with the screen layout that I thought I might have to change after the migration. I kept these brief notes in a small text file to refer to after the migration. As I said above in the last paragraph, I nearly didn’t need them at all because the installer kept most all of them intact. /END OF EDIT
Many of the items talked about with respect to the initial layout on the scree when T’Bird 115 starts are already in 102, just look for them carefully. I did indeed use @Lars220 ‘s post as a starting point to other pages on Mozilla’s site that have guidance on what’s what (and how to change it if you need to) in the new version of T’Bird.
I hope this helps somewhat!
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I, too, took the plunge today after having followed @Bob99 ‘s suggestion to take notes on 102. Likewise, I had to change a few settings.
I see no advantage to the new Unified Toolbar in 115, though — just another Toolbar that takes over some of the options that other Toolbars in 102 provided. So, now there are three Toolbars at the top: Unified Toolbar, Menu Bar, and Tab Bar. In 102, there were two: the Menu Bar and the Tab Bar.
Which would you rather have — a pie divided into two parts (simpler with two bars at the top? or a pie divided into three parts (more complicated with three bars at the top)? It’s still the same pie, but with more places to look at for the universe of options.
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I have only one toolbar and a menu bar. See picture.
Interesting. I see in your screenshot that the Menu options are part of the Unified Toolbar, below which is the Mail tab. What happens when you right-click on the Unified Toolbar and choose the Menu Bar option?
I think that you have only two Bars because the Tab Bar has only the Mail tab. In #3 of Getting Started, , it says:
In Thunderbird 115, the Tab Bar is only displayed if you have two or more tabs. For example, if you have a Mail tab and a Calendar Tab, the Tab Bar is visible. If you just have one tab like the Mail tab, the Tab Bar automatically disappears.
Here is a screenshot of my Thunderbird screen. The 1st Toolbar, the Unified Toolbar, does not have Menu options incorporated in it. I have chosen to have the Menu Bar displayed, so the Menu options are there in the 2nd Toolbar. And I have more than 1 tab, so the 3rd Toolbar, the Tab Bar, shows up.
When I turn off the Menu Bar, I do not see the Menu options anywhere.
But, I can toggle ALT to get the Menu options to appear or disappear.
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Mozilla Thunderbird, Portable Edition 115.2.3
Thunderbird “Supernova” 115.2.3
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/115.2.3/releasenotes/
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Does Thunderbird have ESRs?? Firefox does, so does Thunderbird, too?
..The regular Thunderbird release follows the Extended Support Release (ESR) schedule of the Mozilla platform. So it will remain stable and on that major version for approximately one year…
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Mozilla Thunderbird, Portable Edition 115.4.1
Thunderbird “Supernova” 115.4.1
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2023-47/
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Hi @Alex5723
Are you no longer posting about Thunderbird updates here in the “Thunderbird – updating and patching » Thunderbird updates” forum?
Thunderbird “SuperNova” 115.8 out out now.
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Here’s some more news about this development. Apparently, the 125.0 version is only a test release of sorts for now, and is NOT recommended for downloading and installation/use yet. More details in the letter at the following link.
https://thunderbird.topicbox.com/groups/planning/Tf458e19e4446e1c6
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I just checked my version of Portable Thunderbird [115.10.1 (64-bit)] and it’s offering to update to version 116.0.
I saw the same thing in my installed version of T’Bird 115.10.1 (I don’t use the portable version), and all I did was click the button offering the upgrade and let T’Bird restart, which it did VERY quickly. That changed me from the Release channel to the ESR channel. Then I clicked the update offer to go from 115.10.1 to 115.10.2, which was also VERY quick, and I’m now on 115.10.2, which is the current release for T’Bird, despite what shows up in the “About Thunderbird” box that comes up. See below:
The main Thunderbird site, Thunderbird.net, is still serving up T’Bird 115.10.2 for those who want to install T’Bird for the first time or who need to do a fresh installation for some reason.
Since you’re using the portable version of Thunderbird, if you want to go to T’Bird 115.10.2, I recommend you follow the path you’ve always successfully used to go from one version of Thunderbird to the next.
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Weirdly, when I checked today, I was on version 115.10.2, not 116.0. An update to 115.11.0 showed as available, so I updated to that. After the restart, that is the current version.
Apparently the update yesterday changed me from the Release channel to the ESR channel as well. Should I switch back?
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As you’ve both noticed by now, Mozilla finally cut loose T’Bird 115.11, and I have installed it. The About Thunderbird box still shows me as being on the ESR channel, as both of you also show, because Mozilla put T’Bird 115 on the ESR channel to make room for future Release channel versions. See the link I have in post 2665483, and CAREFULLY read the entire thread, starting with the first post at the top of the page, from Andrei. In those posts, you’ll probably find the answers to your questions.
By the way, I’m not sure if it’s possible to just “switch channels” with T’Bird, given what’s going on right now with the T’Bird ecosystem within Mozilla.
I don’t recommend switching back to an earlier version of T’Bird, since this one has several well-documented security holes plugged with patches.
In the not too distant future, I firmly believe that we’ll all have a migration path from the 115 line to whatever version they will finally place on the formal Release channel, be it 125, 126, 127, 128, or even 129 or 130. For now, we’re still actually on that channel, despite what the About Thunderbird box says. In a couple of months, it might be a good idea to go to Thunderbird.net and hover your mouse over the download button to see what version shows up in the url. That will be a clue as well as paying close attention to the release notes for the future versions in the 120s, as they will most likely have a statement regarding the availability of upgrading to them from 115.
Keep your eyes tuned to this thread for future posts from @Microfix and @Alex5723 with links to news and new releases.
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There’s an update for T’Bird that will take it up to 115.11.1, and it was released yesterday, May 29th.
Release notes here: https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/115.11.1/releasenotes/
The ONLY thing this update enables/changes is that it adds a survey about Thunderbird for randomly selected folks to take. The survey is administered for Mozilla by Survey Monkey, and there is a disclosure on the page that takes you to the survey. That page also has a button to click to go to the survey. Link to the particular page below:
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I don’t see any reason why I should install this update!
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I’m with you with regards to the update’s installation. For a survey, there are probably other ways they could have gone about it than putting it in an update that, without the info provided above, some folks would’ve felt compelled to install.
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For now, Thunderbird 127.0 is NOT an official production type of release, but merely a monthly test release of sorts for the folks behind Thunderbird to prove they can consistently deliver a quality monthly build to better follow Mozilla’s releases for Firefox. Proof is in the following links to a Thunderbird discussion board for their coders:
https://thunderbird.topicbox.com/groups/planning/Tf458e19e4446e1c6 and
https://thunderbird.topicbox.com/groups/planning/Ta13f7e0c19d8f0b9
Per the last paragraph of the first post (from Andrei) at the first link:
These monthly release builds will eventually become the default download on the website, but not until many months of QA and process refinements occur, and we are 100% certain that we can deliver a quality release.
I added the bolding in the quote above for emphasis.That post the quote is from is dated April 27th, so I don’t think that “many months” have yet passed.
Please folks, just because this is available on the Thunderbird download site/their FTP site doesn’t mean that it’s an official, production-ready release.
Just what makes it an official, production-ready release you ask? An official announcement about it on the official Thunderbird site at https://www.thunderbird.net. As of this writing, that site is still giving out Thunderbird 115.11.1 via the “Download” button in the middle of the page.
If version 127.0 is suddenly linked to that “Download” button in the very near future (the next couple of days, for example), then so be it, but version 127 isn’t considered an official release until that actually occurs and Mozilla has announced it on the main Thunderbird page linked to above.
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To quote from the release notes:
Fixed
Annual Thunderbird Beta appeal intended for Thunderbird 115.12.0 did not open as expected
So, if you want to see their annual appeal to join the beta program, feel free to update to T’Bird 115.12.2. By the way, that’s the only fix listed for this version.
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FYI: Thunderbird ‘Nebula’ 128.0esr
OFFICIAL Thunderbird 128.0 esr Nebula FAQ has been posted by mozilla:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/thunderbird-128-nebula-faqLooks like the final is on the FTP today 11th July 2024:
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AND in the /update/(OS and version)/(language and location) sub-directory on that ftp server, one will find updates that are normally used by the built-in updater in T’Bird to go from 115.11.1, 115.12.1, and 115.12.2 to 128.0 ESR. That makes it look to me like we might get an offer to move from 115 to 128 from the built-in updater in the coming days, so stand by. Just because it’s on the FTP server doesn’t automatically mean that we’ll be offered the update from 115 to 128 just yet.
At the moment of this post, the main T’Bird page is still offering up 115.12.2 to new users looking to download and install T’Bird via the “Download” button on the main page.
…we might get an offer to move from 115 to 128 from the built-in updater in the coming days, so stand by. Just because it’s on the FTP server doesn’t automatically mean that we’ll be offered the update from 115 to 128 just yet. At the moment of this post, the main T’Bird page is still offering up 115.12.2 to new users looking to download and install T’Bird via the “Download” button on the main page.
UPDATE: As of now, T’Bird 128.0ESR is being given out via the thunderbird.net “Download” button. However, those on 115 won’t be getting it via the built-in updater just yet. Here’s a quote from the 128.0 release notes page:
Thunderbird version 128.0 is only offered as direct download from thunderbird.net and not as an upgrade from Thunderbird version 115 or earlier. A future release will provide updates from earlier versions.
I added the bolding seen in the quote. So, time to be patient and wait. For now.
As of now, there isn’t a release higher than 115.12.2 on the ftp server except 128.0esr, which, as noted above, isn’t available via upgrade from 115 just yet. Per a posting a ways above, 125.0 and 127.0 were just”test” releases not meant for installation on a production machine or daily driver.
Thunderbird blog posted details today about Thunderbird 128 Nebula:
https://blog.thunderbird.net/2024/07/welcome-to-thunderbird-128-nebula/
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Perhaps the crowdstrike faux pas has affected mozilla upgrade functionality?
My preferred method is to download the latest version from the mozilla ftp:
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/115.13.0/
and whilst offline, install over the top (upgrade is presented during the installation procedure) Simple, effective without background traffic 🙂If debian is good enough for NASA... -
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Just to clarify one point in case I wasn’t clear before, I didn’t set up my accounts again. I closed Thunderbird, opened Profile Manager, selected the profile I had been using, set it as default, saved it, and closed PM. When I relaunched Thunderbird all was as it should be and the version showed as 115.13.0. Hope that is clear.
I’m not sure closing Thunderbird prior to running the update would have mattered, though. When I look at installed programs, v. 115.10.1 is still listed (as is v. 78.14.0). Trying to uninstall either gives me the “may have already been uninstalled” error.
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Thanks for the clarification regarding your profile! After rereading the post, I get it…T’Bird wanted you to set up as if you’d just installed it with no accounts or profile, so you used its profile manager to tell it the proper profile to use as the default and it stopped asking you to set up your email account(s), because it now had a profile to work from.
When I look at Programs and Features in Control Panel, I have never had old versions listed in there of anything from Mozilla, FF or T’Bird. Perhaps an upgrade went somewhat sideways in the past for you? Have you always used the latest version’s executable or msi installer to go from one version to the next, i.e. from 115.10.0 to 115.10.1 or from 115.12.1 to 115.12.2?
What I have seen on computers at work in the past for Mozilla’s Firefox (computers at work had Outlook, so no T’Bird) is a listing just like you said, with the same message about might have already been uninstalled, and clicking the older program as if to uninstall it would sometimes work and sometimes uninstall the current version of the program, resulting in no entry for the program in Programs and Features. Reinstalling the latest version from a downloaded installer always brought Firefox back to full functionality with no loss of data from the profile, however, and only a single entry in Programs and Features for the currently installed version.
So, no promises that trying to uninstall the older versions of T’Bird from Programs and Features will be without hiccups! BUT, to get rid of the older versions’ entries in Programs and Features, you may have to click on their entries to remove them from the list, which might actually uninstall the current version as well. Once all the older versions’ entries are gone from the list, try launching your current version if it’s still listed in Programs and Features to see if it works or if it was uninstalled as well.
Would be a good idea to back up your profile and email folders before uninstalling the older versions in case they somehow bite the big one during the older versions’ uninstallation. Uninstalling the program is not supposed to remove your profile or email folders, just the program, but better be safe than sorry.
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For everyone waiting for the upgrade to T’Bird 115.13 from their current version of T’Bird 115, carefully read the posts in the Mozillazine forum at the following link for a little bit of background: https://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=3123166
As is mentioned in that forum and here in this thread, 115.13 is officially released and can be installed if you wish.
Presently, there seem to be two choices: 1. Patiently wait for the built-in updater to offer 115.13 to you and install it that way. 2. Install 115.13 over the top of your current version of 115.11.1, 115.12.1 or 115.12.2 using the method described by @Microfix just above this post. The OP in the Mozillazine forum used @Microfix ‘s method to install 115.13 and has openly said in that forum that they’ve experienced NO issues thus far.
BTW, I said “Patiently wait…” for the updater to offer 115.13 to you because I recall a couple of times with Firefox in the past where I was never offered an update by the built-in updater until the next major version was offered to everyone, and it was during a time period for Firefox that was just like we have now for Thunderbird…the next major version is offered to initial installers from the web page, but is restricted from being offered as an update via the built-in updater. If this scenario holds true (and it seems as if only the folks running the T’Bird program know for sure if it will), then it’s possible that the built-in updater may not offer any updates until version 128.3 of T’Bird is released. Carefully read the thread in the above-mentioned Mozillazine forum for the details from “James”, that forum’s moderator.
Personally, I’m hoping that for some reason Mozilla just hasn’t quite been able to get their act together with respect to offering 115.13 to us via the servers for the built-in updater, but that they will get their act together in the coming days. Time will tell, of course!
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Thunderbird just auto updated to 115.13.0
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Same here. Patience was rewarded.
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Have you always used the latest version’s executable or msi installer to go from one version to the next
I typically update through the button under About Thunderbird. I suspect that both old versions are from using a stand-alone installer. (I know the 115.10.1 version is.)
BUT, to get rid of the older versions’ entries in Programs and Features, you may have to click on their entries to remove them from the list
Which is exactly what I did. The rest of the message that popped up when I tried to uninstall them said they may already have been uninstalled and did I want to remove them from the list? I clicked Yes, they went away, and that was that.
Thank you for the follow-up.
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For those on T’Bird 128.0, there’s an update to T’Bird 128.0.1, released yesterday. Here are the release notes: https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/128.0.1esr/releasenotes/
Thunderbird 128 Upgrades are now enabled
Users of the Thunderbird email client who still use Thunderbird 115.x will be upgraded to the new version automatically starting today…
Thunderbird 115 to 128 upgrades
The upgrade to Thunderbird 128 is now available. Previously, users had to download the installer from the Thunderbird website to upgrade manually.
This is no longer necessary, as Thunderbird will inform users about the new version. The new Thunderbird 128 will also be offered when you click on Help > About Thunderbird.
Thunderbird users who do not want the update at this time have two main options:
Disable the automatic check for updates on startup under Settings > General.
Configure a policy to disable updates.
The policy requires a bit of work. You need to create a policies.json file and place it in the Distribution folder of the Thunderbird installation. You can download a very simple policies file with a click on the following link: policies..
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How did I inadvertently get on the esr channel? And how do I get off it and onto the regular channel to get 128.0.3, and not 128.0.1 esr?
We all got migrated to the esr channel when the version number went from 115.10.1 to 115.10.2 back in May. Scroll up this thread and you’ll find the posts indicating the occurrence and the fact that the esr designation is hopefully only temporary until Mozilla figures out just how to move folks from esr to release channel.
The Thunderbird.net site is currently only giving out 128.0.1esr no matter what, so for now there is no release channel version.
As with all things software-related, stay tuned for further developments.
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The second one is checked – so is that enough to avoid the automatic update?
Yes, it should be.
However, you may very well get a notification at some point within T’Bird that a new version is available, and there’ll be two buttons on the bottom of the notification to choose from, one essentially saying to go ahead and install the new version and the other one essentially saying nah not now.
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I just use a registry key to block all TB updates (see below). It works great.
I install a new TB version after I download the setup file from Mozilla.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Mozilla\Thunderbird] "DisableAppUpdate"=dword:00000001
This adds a message in the About window: Updates disabled by your organization.
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- After looking at the Firefox releases calendar, it looks to me like those of us on 115.13 or .14 may very well be offered 128.2esr next month on or around September 3rd. If so, I’ll most likely take the offer.
- Per the Mozilla release calendar, 130 will be offered in parallel with 115.15 and 128.2, so my guess is that if we’re on 128.2esr, we’ll potentially be offered an update to 131 on or around October 1st. If the update offer to 131 indeed comes to pass, it may also get us off of the “ESR” channel and back onto the “Release” channel.
Items in nos. 2 and 3 subject to change as the actual release and update path from 115.13esr (or .14esr) and 128.whatever esr becomes clearer in the coming weeks.
As a reminder for those following this thread, Thunderbird’s releases are loosely based upon the Mozilla release calendar and version numbers for Firefox and Firefox esr. I say “loosely based” because the actual release dates for Thunderbird’s versions can be up to several days or more after the dates on Mozilla’s Firefox release calendar, but may occur within a couple of days of those dates as well. That calendar can be found at https://whattrainisitnow.com/calendar.
One final note: The biggest single reason I went with the update from 115.13esr to 115.14esr is because 115.14esr contains security patches that are NOT in 115.13esr.
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actual release dates for Thunderbird’s versions can be up to several days or more after the dates on Mozilla’s Firefox release calendar, but may occur within a couple of days of those dates as well. That calendar can be found at https://www.whattrainisitnow.com/calendar.
Why do I get this when I look up the URL?
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URL revised to be the correct one. Sorry about that!
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Well, I just updated from 115.14 directly to 128.1.1 using the built-in updater. It took about two minutes from beginning of download (about 67 megs) to back up and running with the screen looking identical to before. I also had two tabs launched in Firefox to welcome me to T’Bird 128 which is called, I believe, Nebula. All I had to do was to open up the Help>About Thunderbird menu item and there was a button in that “box” offering an upgrade to 128.1.1, so I took it.
With the lack of information put out by Mozilla regarding getting folks back on the Release channel from the current ESR channel (that’s the only channel currently available), it’s difficult to say whether folks on the 115 branch of T’Bird will be offered the opportunity to “make the leap” back to the Release channel via the built-in updater or if that opportunity will only be available to those on the 128 branch. For the next several hours (or, hopefully, the next couple of days), based upon my experience a short while ago (described above in the first paragraph), the choice is yours whether to stay on the 115 branch or move to the 128 branch.
By the way, 128 is still showing as 128.1.1esr in the About Thunderbird box, AND 128.1.1esr is what’s currently (as of the date and time of this post) offered for download on thunderbird.net for folks installing it for the first time.
I hope this helps a bit.
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Well, you’ve seen the development that’s happened in the last few hours, Mozilla has released 128.2.0esr and made it available via the built-in updater. It’s also available on their FTP site and on the Thunderbird.net page as well.
My guess is that a migration “back” to the release channel will be presented to those running 128.X.Xesr, and might not be presented to those running 115. Time will tell, of course.
As of this writing, the FTP server does not have a listing for 115.15.0 yet, but that could change in the next several hours to the next several days.
If you’re running 115.13 or .14, and you don’t take the “offer” to go to 128.2esr that’s presented in the About Thunderbird “box” within the program, if 115.15.0esr is released you might lose the chance to go to 128 altogether using the built-in updater. HOWEVER, you can use the executable for 128.2.0esr that’s on the FTP server here, just select your OS and OS’s bittedness from the choices on that page. @Microfix has used that technique successfully as he documents in this post above here. In that post, he’s referring to upgrading to T’Bird 115.13, using a link in his post, but the directions for going to 128 should be the same…download the full version of your preference and double click it to launch the installer, then select the “Upgrade” option from the available choices for type of installation.
Now, pardon me, but I have to go update T’Bird 128.1.1esr (which I just got last night) to 128.2.0esr.
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Do you think updating to 128.2.0esr will pave the way for 130.0 (not esr)?
The real answer to that question is anybody’s guess (I would think the answer is “yes”, though), but one thing’s for sure. The 128.2.0esr release contains security fixes/patches so it would be a good idea to install it if it’s being offered to you by the built-in installer AND if you haven’t already installed it by the time you read this post.
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Do you think updating to 128.2.0esr will pave the way for 130.0 (not esr)?
Just for reference, T’Bird 128.2.0esr was released today, the day after the same numbered esr version of Firefox was released.
As of now, when this post is being written, on the Mozilla ftp server there is NO version 130.0 of T’Bird available that’s not a beta version, but that version number of Firefox was released yesterday in the release channel. Because of these developments, its quite possible that T’Bird won’t actually have a version 130.0 released, but instead will have a version 131.0 released on or just after October 1st., the next scheduled day for Mozilla’s release of Firefox’s next release channel version, 131.0.
My hope is that on or after October 1st., those running T’Bird 128 will be offered an “upgrade back to the release channel” with version 131.0 being offered by the built-in updater. 🤞🤞
As those who’ve been following this release channel to esr channel saga know, “time will tell”.
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As of now, when this post is being written, on the Mozilla ftp server there is NO version 130.0 of T’Bird available that’s not a beta version…
T’Bird version 130.0 was posted on the FTP server the next day, September 5th. Updates to it are available from T’Bird versions 125, 127, and 129.
Thunderbird.net is still giving out 128.2.0esr for those wanting to install T’Bird for the first time.
Still hoping for…
…on or after October 1st., those running T’Bird 128 will be offered an “upgrade back to the release channel” with version 131.0 being offered by the built-in updater. 🤞🤞
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If you look at the table, April 1st is the FIRST date that there is no scheduled release for any version of Firefox 115esr. The LAST scheduled release for Firefox 115 is on March 4th.
If you look at the posts from the last couple of days in the Firefox thread here on AskWoody, you’ll see that FF/Mozilla members are quoted as saying April 1st for the end of support, IIRC.
Further discussion of the Firefox release calendar’s contents should be carried out in the Firefox thread, not here.
Remember, that calendar is not cast in stone for Thunderbird, but more like a general guideline for dates.
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And just like that, Thunderbird 128.2.2esr was just released today. Like 128.2.1, there are no security fixes but there are several bug fixes included as well as an update to the account setup routine for OAuth2. Details on the Thunderbird 128.2.2esr release notes page. Again, this is the current version that’s being distributed via the Thunderbird.net page for brand new installations.
No portable edition yet as of this writing, but will most likely be available within 24-48 hours.
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That might help explain why only one of my two computers was offered 128.2.2 by the built-in updater! I currently have one with 128.2.1 (which hasn’t “found” 128.2.2 since the first time I checked with it early morning on the 19th, including earlier this morning) and one machine with 128.2.2 which “found” 128.2.2 right after I made that post above on the 18th telling folks about 128.2.2.
AHA! Here’s the reason for the release of 128.2.3,directly from the release notes for 128.2.3esr:
Reverted OAuth2 changes from 128.2.2esr due to authentication timeout after upgrade
THAT probably explains why my other machine never found 128.2.2…it was most likely pulled after a few hours when they had reports of the issue with OAuth2. It most likely explains why your machine went from 128.2.1 directly to 128.2.3.
For those who prefer to use the full installer to go from one version to the next of Thunderbird, here a link to the full installer on the Mozilla ftp server:
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/128.2.3esr/
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please include a link to where you got the quoted
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Thunderbird 128.2.3esr released September 20 to REVERT change made in 128.2.2esr!
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Per the release notes for Thunderbird 128.3.2esr, there are a total of 18 functionality fixes but no security fixes/patches.
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As indicated by Alex’s post above, Thunderbird 128.4.3esr is now officially available, including through the updating mechanism within Thunderbird at Help>About Thunderbird. My apologies for the typo in my post above that says “About>Thunderbird”, as that’s NOT correct.
As well, they have now fixed the link to the security fix that’s included in T’Bird version 128.4.3esr, and the vulnerability is rated by Mozilla as “High”, which is the next highest rating they have. So, it would be a good idea to download and install 128.4.3 or to update from your current version to 128.4.3esr using its built-in updating mechanism.
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For those hardy folks who enjoy a challenge, Thunderbird 132.0.1 is in the Release channel, but carries a stern warning to go with it. The warning basically says that they don’t think that the version currently in the Release channel is “ready for prime time” (my words). If you feel like “taking it for a spin”, please be sure to fully heed the warning:
Quick FYI:
For those who use Windows 7 or Windows 8,
Mozilla has released their LAST email client
‘Supernova’ Thunderbird for those operating systems.Note that Thunderbird 115 is the final release to support Windows 7 and Windows 8.
19th November 2024: 115.16.3esr
Release Notes:
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/115.16.3esr/releasenotes/Mozilla FTP link:
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/115.16.3/If debian is good enough for NASA...Thunderbird was updated yesterday to 128.5.1esr. Per the release notes, there were no security fixes in the release, only one new item and one fix:
New Add end of year donation appeal
Fixed Total message count for favorite folders did not work consistently
Thunderbird 128.5.2esr Released
11th December 2024Release Notes:
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/128.5.2esr/releasenotes/Security Fixes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2024-69/Download:
FTP: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/128.5.2esr/If debian is good enough for NASA...1 user thanked author for this post.
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