This month’s second cumulative updates for Win10 appear — but 1809 is missing again

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This is starting to get repetitive. Yesterday, Microsoft released its second monthly cumulative updates for Win10 versions 1803, 1709, 1703, and 1607.
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PhotM, abbodi86

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I did not understand a thing from this “specific” update
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4494425/windows-10-update-kb4494425

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Great Lake Bunyip, woody

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Sounds like some folks did not get the “set privacy options” screen when booting a new windows 10 install?

First thing everyone should do with a new install of windows 10 including version upgrades is to review all privacy settings. Version upgrades have had a bad habit of resetting a lot of those options, plus new options are added to upgrades that should be reviewed as well.

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abbodi86, Great Lake Bunyip

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W10 has no privacy settings. All are ignored anyway they are set on or off. Only option is to use other OS if you want privacy.

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This is provably inaccurate.

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b

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“If you enable per font end-user-defined characters (EUDC), the system will stop working and a blue screen will appear at startup. This is not a common setting in non-Asian regions.”

Well, this is one lonely reason to be glad I’m not in Asia these days. Thanks, MS!

It also strengthens the case for making Windows 7 the last Windows I’ll ever use.

Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
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1809 CU is available to Release Preview Ring

SSU KB4493510
LCU KB4490481

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I’m not seeing any of these in WSUS (SCCM), does it normally take this long for them to add second round cumulatives?

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Windows 10 “second round cumulatives” stopped being published to WSUS for almost a year or more

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abbodi86 wrote:

Windows 10 “second round cumulatives” stopped being published to WSUS for almost a year or more

We get ’em through WSUS here…

Edit to add: WSUS 10.0.14393.2007 on Server 2016.

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You mean you recieved KB4489894, KB4489890, KB4489889?

I have Server R2 WSUS, got none of them

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We’re not running the older builds, so I’ve only seen KB4489894, but it was applied to all relevant machines through WSUS (yesterday).

ETA: Did you mean 2008 R2 WSUS?

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I ment 2012 R2

thanks for info

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1809 just a mess, I have to wonder if Microsoft would have been better off to skip it, and focus on Spring update. After all adoption rate for 1809 still very low and here we are close to 1903 release. Another example of these releases coming out too fast, and too sketchy to justify.

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Adoption rates notwithstanding, the people who have adopted 1809 have been very happy with it, or at the very least have not had any problems.  That’s been a pretty consistent message from posters here on AskWoody.

 

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I think we’re seeing a divergence of experiences that’s dependent on hardware (and occasionally software) configurations. That’s why Microsoft’s new super-duper intelligent pusher isn’t pushing 1809 onto so many machines.

I’m just worried that 1903 will inherit some of the instability.

One thing definitely worth noting: The bug documentation now is much better than it was a year ago. We’re getting acknowledgments much faster than before, more details, and at least some demonstrated concern.

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I have to agree with John, 1809 is a mess. I suppose your mileage may vary. The Wi-Fi experience on 1809 is noticeably sub-par. I had to reimage my laptop back to 1803 in order to become productive again (I was on 1809 too long and lost the ability to revert). Also, 1809 seems to have stopped support of Dynamic Updates within WSUS, so we’re stuck with downloads from the Internet if we want to support Dynamic Updates with our UIP process. These are just two of the many issues we have with 1809.

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woody

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I am also NOT SEEING KB4489894 (that should target Win10 v 1803) on the WSUS server.

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mostly agree with John. there’s no question the 1809 release was one of the buggiest releases ever.

read this Ten forums thread – this person cannot upgrade to 1809 (heck, also cannot run nor upgrade to 1803) due to having very old hardware on an old laptop.

I am beta testing build 18362 (1903/19H1) [an x86 32bit version] on an old Dell laptop using an Intel Core Duo T2700 and integrated Intel 945GM graphics chipset and that one seems to work, unlike the 1809 release which refused to work and completely froze/hung on the boot logo splash screen for many hours and never made it to the login screen nor the desktop.

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Is a 13-year-old laptop with 2GB RAM a good way to test “stability” of the latest release?

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Not appreciably different from testing on any other hardware that is officially supported but out of warranty. Duh, it could well be more reliable than something cutting edge with still immature firmware and drivers…

Microsoft still advertises what the minimum requirements to install Windows 10 are, and

“if your computer doesn’t meet these requirements, you may not have as great an experience with Windows 10…”

• 1 GHz processor clock
• 1 GB of RAM for 32-bit, 2 GB for 64-bit
• 16 GB mass storage for 32-bit, 32 for 64-bit
• 800×600 minimum screen resolution
• Internet connection for S mode versions

(from https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-specifications just now – and yes, the page displays a copyright entry dated 2019, so they can’t even claim it’s outdated for versions distributed in 2018.)

So yeah, something with a Core Duo T2700 and 2 GB RAM is, officially, plenty.

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Really? Same as a one-year-old laptop with 16GB RAM?

You left out graphics card requirement; not important for a 13-year-old laptop?

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Hey, if the software vendor lists requirements and sells to consumers… legally no difference.

(Glad I’m not working in consumer sales.)

Also the edge cases are where you typically want to pay extra attention when testing. Last year’s model with 16 GB RAM is not an edge case…

Well yeah, the graphics card could be an issue but the 945GM should have the WDDM support required.

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