The hated patch that wouldn’t die: KB 3150513 appears again

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In honor of the 400th anniversary of The Bard’s demise: MARCELLUS What, has this thing appear’d again to-night? BERNARDO I have seen nothing. MARCELLU
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Hamlet:
Swear by my sword
Never to speak of this that you have heard.

Ghost:
[Beneath] Swear by his sword.

Hamlet:
Well said, old mole, canst work i’ th’ earth so fast?
A worthy pioner! Once more remove, good friends.

Horatio:
O day and night, but this is wondrous strange!

Hamlet:
And therefore as a stranger give it welcome.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

(Hamlet: Act 1, Scene 5, 159–167)

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DeWayne12, woody

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I’m off to see Julius Caesar tomorrow evening!

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Well if anything you cant say AskWoody isnt educational from the Shakesperian Classics to cutting edge Computer science. Although the Bard has probably the most succinct lines on this “beware the ides of march” for updates although you could probably make that April lol and the old classic “Et tu Microsoft” (or was that Brutus? lol)

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DeWayne12, Karlston, AJNorth

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I thought it was the the 401st anniversary of The Bard’s demise. If so, Woody’s living in the past

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OMG. I missed it by a year.

Why, this was quite forgot….

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After all, what’s one year out of four-hundred-and-one years between friends? (0.249%)

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Et tu Satya; the evil that men do lives after them and the good is oft interred with their bones. So let it be with KB 3150513!

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Out, da**ed patch! Out, I say!

Edited for content – sorry Bard

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Noel Carboni

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Bowdlerized Bard.

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AJNorth, satrow

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Hello, I have WSUS server and update 3150513 is offered to my Windows 10 1607 clients, and to 2016 servers.

My question: If I plan upgrade to 1703 in the following months via WSUS, is it better to have 3150513, or does it matter?

So far I have not understood whether 3150513 brings some compatibility repairs from partners. Or if it only sends telemetry data on the upgrade.

Is that clear to you? So far I have not found an article about the content of the Appraiser.sdb file. The document closest to this was a document. https://tzworks.net/prototypes/shims/shims.users.guide.pdf

Thanks

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Indeed, the Bard knew well of which he spoke, centuries before the Behemoth of Redmond and their miraculous patching:

Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,

Creeps in this petty pace from day to day

To the last syllable of recorded time,

And all our yesterdays have lighted fools

The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!

Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player

That struts and frets his hour upon the stage

And then is heard no more. It is a tale

Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,

Signifying nothing.

(Macbeth: Act 5, Scene 5)

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From the KB page:

Latest compatibility definition update for Windows

This update provides the latest set of definitions for compatibility diagnostics that are performed on the system. The updated definitions will help enable Microsoft and its partners to ensure compatibility for all customers who want to install the latest Windows operating system. Installing this update also makes sure that the latest Windows operating system version is correctly offered through Windows Update, based on compatibility results.

Beyond the fact that they’re deceptively making it sound at first blush like a Windows Defender update for folks who don’t read beyond the first few words…

Conceptually…

It seems like a compatibility appraiser application should be welcome IF Windows 10 was actually something we were considering installing in the future, and let’s face it many of us ARE considering it.

Maybe it would actually be good if Microsoft were informed and motivated to make it support all the software and hardware we run in our current computers…

But…

All that said, I’m not going to let one bit of telemetry be pried forcibly from my systems!

Why isn’t a “compatibility appraiser” just a plain, straightforward application that:

1. You can choose to run if you want to do so?
   
2. You can run WHEN you want to.
   
3. Will make a simple text report you can look over yourself, then send to a Microsoft eMail address or transmit with a button that explicitly says “Upload my compatibility report to Microsoft to inform Microsoft about my system and software”.

It’s all this sneaking around, trying to grab data that’s not theirs to have that’s the problem. I don’t care to blur the line between what’s theirs and what’s mine, not one bit.

What is this obsession with forcing things on people? It’s as if Microsoft has said, “We’re tired of waiting for customers to seek us out, we’re going to take what we want from them. And besides, everyone else is doing it.”

Am I wrong here?

-Noel

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Elly, samak, Karlston, Steve S., AlexEiffel

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Nah, it’s just the Microsoft elephant-bear mutation tossing and turning in bed with your system. You can hear it rattling your disk filling it with useless nonsense, eating your time and space while you try valiantly to get your work done in spite of it. Careful that you aren’t crushed as it slowly pushes you into the cloud and completely takes over your system. Try not to loose too much sleep over it…you will be assimilated!

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Bill C., Noel Carboni

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It’s been a long time since my disks rattled (okay, I guess the backup drives still do), but I get your point.

-Noel

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I’m running Windows 7 Professional x64.  I don’t have this installed and it isn’t being offered to me.

I’m in Group A# (as in A-sharp).  I’ve been installing the important cumulative updates via Windows Update.  But I stopped and disabled the DiagTrack service after the first post-install reboot, and thankfully no subsequent patches have turned it back on.  I also haven’t been installing any optional or recommended updates.  I remember all too well how I was tricked into installing GWX.  Thankfully, I learned what it really was and uninstalled it the following day, long before it started its “reign of terror”.

So apparently KB 3150513 has some prerequisite that thankfully I don’t have.

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Noel Carboni

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For Windows 7 SP1 users, KB2952664 needs to be installed to be offered patch KB3150513; that is, KB2952664 is a prerequisite.   For Windows 8 and 8.1, the prerequisite patch is KB2976978.

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Those are telemetry/compatibility related patches. KB3150513 provides the compat database for KB2952664 and KB2976978

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Redmond, meet the Bard — who foretold the entire Windows update debacle, centuries before the electron was even discovered (by Sir Joseph John Thompson in 1897):

Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time,
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

(Macbeth: Act V, Scene V)

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EyesOnWindows, Noel Carboni

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@woody:

The KB3150513 update was revised late April 2017 only for Windows 10 v1607 & Windows Server 2016. KB3150513 for other versions of Windows (including Windows 10 v1511) remain unchanged.

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This patch reminds me of one of those Christmas fruitcakes that people re-gift year after year without ever opening. I am quite convinced that when civilization eventually winds down, the last things left will be cockroaches, Keith Richards, a Christmas fruitcake, and KB3150513! ?

Edited for content

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Karlston

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Indeed, I most certainly did — and had, in an earlier attempt to edit the post (which is now corrected — again…).

Oh well; of course, as Tom Lehrer observed in his classic “New Math,” the important thing is to understand what you’re doing, rather than to get the right answer” (unless, of course, you’re a System Admin…).

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Edit fast/submit fast – it gets caught in the sp*m bucket.
Try 8088 or 286 speed

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AJNorth

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