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    Got notification of two out of cycle updates today – the thread title one classed as Important and an Optional one KB3092627

    I’ve installed the latter but KB2882822 looks a bit suspect to me as another possible data collection update. https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/2882822

    Does anyone have any views.

    It would seem that MS are extending their “spying” to Win 7 and Win 8.1 but I assume most will already have KBs3068708, 3075249, 3080149 and 3022345/2952664 installed where they haven’t checked to see what they do.

    I have these hidden.

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    • #1526561

      By googling the KB #, I found references to that patch clear back to Oct. 2013 so it must be a re-issued patch for some reason. Not sure what it actually does though.

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

      • #1526619

        By googling the KB #, I found references to that patch clear back to Oct. 2013 so it must be a re-issued patch for some reason. Not sure what it actually does though.

        Neither do I which is why I’ve hidden it.

        I’ve just done a search for it and don’t have it installed, so wondering if it had been superseded earlier and the older one cleaned out with Disk Cleanup.

        I’d hate to think I had something lurking in disguise.

        • #1526698

          Neither do I which is why I’ve hidden it.

          I’ve just done a search for it and don’t have it installed, so wondering if it had been superseded earlier and the older one cleaned out with Disk Cleanup.

          I’d hate to think I had something lurking in disguise.

          I just ran a search and it was installed on 10/8/2013 on my win 7 computer. I assume there are no ill effects from it if it’s been here for this long. :o:
          I just ran WU and installed KB3092627 ( another fix for a previous patch, LOL ), and KB3083324 ( supposedly to better WU ).

          Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
          All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1526618

      … and no one was suspicious about developer “logging” tools two years ago!

      • #1526621

        … and no one was suspicious about developer “logging” tools two years ago!

        How times change 🙂

    • #1526750

      Do you ever run Disk Cleanup as an admin after WUs ?

      I didn’t get offered that 3324 one – don’t suppose it’s to better a Win 10 upgrade 🙂

    • #1526752

      Do you ever run Disk Cleanup as an admin after WUs ?

      No, I just use CCleaner. I haven’t run Disk Cleanup in a long time.

      I didn’t get offered that 3324 one – don’t suppose it’s to better a Win 10 upgrade

      Don’t know but I have hidden all the rest of the updates needed for W10, including the new telemetry/Diagnostics updates for W7. I probably have quite a stack of hidden updates by now. 😉
      I updated my laptop to W10 but the rest of these computers will stay with W7 for a long time to come.

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1526755

      Try running Disk Cleanup as an admin then check to see if you still get that update listed for 10/8/2013.

      If Disk Cleanup cleans out GBs of obsolete WUs – a defrag would be beneficial.

      I have two for the Win 10 update hidden 🙂

      I was surprised to get the second one as I have all of the triggering updates uninstalled and hidden.

    • #1526787

      Try running Disk Cleanup as an admin then check to see if you still get that update listed for 10/8/2013.

      Kb2882822 didn’t show up when I ran WU today because I already have it installed from 2013 when it came out. It showed up for you because you either didn’t install it originally or you deleted it through Disk Cleanup or you did a restore point to before you installed it.
      If my memory serves me, you had some problems with a W10 install and rolled back to W7 didn’t you? It’s possible that some older WU’s went out then. Just guessing at the reasons it offered it to you and you said that it doesn’t show up in the search of installed updates.

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1526862

      I didn’t roll back from Win 10 – because I had no options when clicking on the Start button, I factory reset it using an OEM Recovery disk and then restored with the system image I’d created before the upgrade, so it should have been as-is prior to the upgrade.

      On another forum others were offered the KB who haven’t been anywhere near Win 10, but run Disk Cleanup after the monthly updates, so it’s possible that it had been superseded with something else.

    • #1526887

      Disk Cleanup seems to be the common denominator then. Maybe it’s a bit toooo aggressive at times?

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

      • #1526901

        Disk Cleanup seems to be the common denominator then. Maybe it’s a bit toooo aggressive at times?

        No, it only removes what has been superseded and after the initial Disk Cleanup following the 2013 update that allowed this in Win 7, it usually finds 200 – 300MB of them to remove after the normal monthly updates.

        I think it cleaned out ~3GB the first time around.

    • #1526928

      Although I didn’t clean anything, I ran Disk Cleanup just to see what the size of WU cleanup was. It showed 3.68 GB. I’m a bit Leary of deleting them since you seem to have lost an update somewhere in the process or is it possible that you just never installed Kb2882822?

      On another forum others were offered the KB who haven’t been anywhere near Win 10, but run Disk Cleanup after the monthly updates, so it’s possible that it had been superseded with something else.

      If it was superseded with something else, it wouldn’t show up in WU after all this time would it?

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1526934

      If Disk Cleanup hasn’t been run then those obsolete updates will remain – what do you think that 3.68GB consists of and MS wouldn’t have afforded this provision in Win 7 if it wasn’t safe.

      It took a specific update to allow cleaning the WinSxS folder. https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/2852386

    • #1526937

      MS wouldn’t have afforded this provision in Win 7 if it wasn’t safe

      LOL, after the last year or so of WU’s being what they are, I’m not sure that’s a true statement anymore BUT I will set a restore point and run Disk Cleanup since you make a good point about that 3.68 GB.

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1527082

      @Sudo15
      I ran Disk Cleanup as administrator today and then checked WU. There was no Kb2882822 offered and I checked installed updates and it’s still on my computer so evidently it’s not obsolete or replaced.

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

      • #1527106

        @Sudo15
        I ran Disk Cleanup as administrator today and then checked WU. There was no Kb2882822 offered and I checked installed updates and it’s still on my computer so evidently it’s not obsolete or replaced.

        It isn’t listed as installed on mine and I know of others who have had it offered so I don’t have an explanation for that.

    • #1527148

      Something is really screwed up with WU. On 9/3/15 I ran WU on this win 7 x64 computer and I got KB3092627, & KB3083324 ( optional ). Yesterday I ran WU on another win 7 x64 computer in the house and those 2 KBs are nowhere to be found. This morning I ran WU on my win 7 x86 computer and those 2 KBs are still not there.
      MS either pulled them or it was a 1 day offer, LOL.
      Update:
      They must have pulled both of those updates right after I got them on this computer because neither of them are found on MS update catalog site.
      41971-308332441972-3092627

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1527161

      It looks like you could be right about KBs3092627 and 3083324 being pulled, but not sure why 2627 has.

      This is what I’ve found for 2627 http://www.infoworld.com/article/2979516/microsoft-windows/microsoft-releases-kb-3092627-to-fix-bad-patch-ms15-084kb-3076895.html

      While I have KB3076895 installed, I don’t have KB3090303 on this laptop – will check my other one later.

      Anyway, I’ve uninstalled 2627 and 3324 and neither were re-offered when I did a manual Check for updates.

    • #1527179

      While I have KB3076895 installed, I don’t have KB3090303 on this laptop – will check my other one later.

      Same scenario on all my computers. 3076895 never caused problems for me so I never installed 3090303.
      2627 and 3324 haven’t caused problems either so I have just left them there for now on the 1 computer that they were available on. Will just have to wait to see if they are re-offered on the 8th.
      Update:
      You can still download KB3092627 here https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3092627
      But when you click download for KB3083324 from this page https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3083324 it takes you to a Windows Downloads page with a W10 advertisement featured. If you use the search box, it can’t find 3083324.

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1527499

      Today ( on WU ) KB3083324 is listed as important, and KB3092627 is listed as optional.

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1527503

      I don’t normally get my WUs until the Wednesday, but it’s strange that MS pushed those two out a week early to Patch Tuesday and then what seems like they pulled them.

    • #1527505

      Seems kinda like somebody pulled the trigger too soon before patch Tuesday and then they finally released them again today.
      I installed all the important ones today except for KB3083992 ( dealing with AppLocker ) and KB3086255 ( not sure what that deals with ). All the rest seemed ok after reading about them ( patching various vulnerability’s ).

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1527507

      Just doing a manual check for updates to see if I can gee them up – it sometimes works 🙂

      BTW – Thanks to whoever it was who tidied up the thread title.

    • #1527512

      Got 15 – all listed as Important.

      As well as hiding the previous two, I also hid KB3086255 because of https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/3086255 but installed the rest.

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