• Slipstream Win XP Pro SP3

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    Has anyone had recent success with Slipstreaming XP Pro SP3 from an OEM XP Pro SP2 CD to a new bootable XP Pro SP3 CD?

    I have tried ….
    Paul Thurrott’s Slipstreaming Windows XP With Service Pack 3 (SP3).
    The links and prose in that article seem out of date.
    For example it asks to Downlaod ImgBurn and never tells how to use ImgBurn in the process.

    I’d like to create a CD with XP Pro SP3 for installing on an OEM licensed PC that has misplaced all Win XP install CD’s. That PC has a dead Hard Drive that will be replaced.

    Any ideas?

    Thanks

    PS: Would also like to include drivers on the new CD

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    • #1272705

      You can find a good guide here.

      Jerry

    • #1272766

      I used that site and downloaded the ImgBurn with the same apprehension as I guess you are experiencing, the result was good the Imburn prog is easy.
      Just remembered there is a good tutorial here http://www.imgburn.com/
      However be careful where you click there are many ads on the site.

    • #1272954

      I didn’t see any date on this site.You can try this;http://www.howtohaven.com/system/slipstream-xp-service-pack-3.shtml
      The best of luck to you.

    • #1273424

      I’ve had luck, but I used Nero Burning ROM to burn the CD.

      I had to use IsoBuster to get the boot image from the OEM CD, since this is not a standard Microsoft boot img (image). I also had to make sure that the setting for burning the CD were correct, since just making a bootable CD-ROM will not work for an XP Installation CD.

      A good tutorial for slipstreaming and using Nero Buring ROM to create the CD can be found at HelpWithWindows.com

    • #1273516

      My apologies for not responding sooner. I thank you all for your replies. I will be trying your suggestions on my next project.

      This project was for a friend’s Dell Optiplex, she could not find any of her software install disks, the hard drive was dead. We installed another HD and used a Dell OEM XP Pro SP2 CD on her system and then installed a download of SP3 burned to a CD. Installed some Dell Optiplex drivers and all is good. We did have to get about 100 patches, fixes updates, etc. from Microsoft Updates. I think we would have had to get those 100 Microsoft Updates even if we could have got the Slipstream to work.

      I am a bit surprised that during the installations that we were never asked to input her MS XP Pro license key. So far, it seems to have passed Microsoft Genuine.

      My next project will be reinstalling Win XP Pro SP3 on a Dell laptop that currently has XP Pro SP3 installed, but system is real slow. Just want to refresh the laptop with a new install of all programs and hope it gets a tad bit faster.
      I have the Dell Win XP Pro SP 1a CD for that system. Will be an interesting reinstall/upgrade from an XP SP 1a disk.

      I do have full Macrium backup image of the laptop.

      Thanks again

      • #1273905

        I am a bit surprised that during the installations that we were never asked to input her MS XP Pro license key. So far, it seems to have passed Microsoft Genuine.

        Activation of an OEM image uses the OEM’s license key, not the unique key on the label that was attached to the computer. The key on the computer, although a valid key, is unused, but is contractually required to be provided with the computer by Microsoft. The key printed on the computer should be different than the key recovered by any of the key recovery probrams (Belarc, etc.) that read the actual key used for activation.

        • #1274839

          Activation of an OEM image uses the OEM’s license key, not the unique key on the label that was attached to the computer. The key on the computer, although a valid key, is unused, but is contractually required to be provided with the computer by Microsoft. The key printed on the computer should be different than the key recovered by any of the key recovery probrams (Belarc, etc.) that read the actual key used for activation.

          I concur with this comment. I have used nLite for years to rebuild my Optiplexes when they are handed down to build a SP3 slip cutomized to remove some of the junk. Tour, messenger, joy sticls, foreign keyboards etc.
          They never require windows activation when finished.

    • #1273894

      The easiest method to slipstream Windows XP Service Packs in to a source has to be nLite. The software can do so much more but for the purpose of slipstreaming it is ridiculously easy.

      http://www.nliteos.com/nlite.html

      This guide below shows you how to use the application to do only that.

      http://www.lancelhoff.com/how-to-slipstream-service-pack-3-into-windows-xp/

      I am a bit surprised that during the installations that we were never asked to input her MS XP Pro license key. So far, it seems to have passed Microsoft Genuine.

      This is by design with most of the larger OEM manufacturers such as Dell and HP. They customise their media to essentially (without going into specifics) activate automatically if loaded on to a compatible machine e.g. Dell Media > Dell Machine = Activate where as Dell Media > HP Machine, failed activation.

      • #1273993

        The easiest method to slipstream Windows XP Service Packs in to a source has to be nLite. The software can do so much more but for the purpose of slipstreaming it is ridiculously easy.

        http://www.nliteos.com/nlite.html

        This guide below shows you how to use the application to do only that.

        http://www.lancelhoff.com/how-to-slipstream-service-pack-3-into-windows-xp/

        This is by design with most of the larger OEM manufacturers such as Dell and HP. They customise their media to essentially (without going into specifics) activate automatically if loaded on to a compatible machine e.g. Dell Media > Dell Machine = Activate where as Dell Media > HP Machine, failed activation.

        Thanks, I’ll try making the Slipstream CD with your nLite instructions.

        Activation of an OEM image uses the OEM’s license key, not the unique key on the label that was attached to the computer. The key on the computer, although a valid key, is unused, but is contractually required to be provided with the computer by Microsoft. The key printed on the computer should be different than the key recovered by any of the key recovery probrams (Belarc, etc.) that read the actual key used for activation.

        If I read these posts correctly, I can make one CD from any Dell OEM disk(SP1, SP1a, SP2) and use the resulting Slipstream XP Pro SP3 disk on any Dell machine that has a Win XP Pro sticker attached to it. At any point do I need to go to Microsoft site and change the key to the key that is attached to the sticker on the computers?

        Thank you

        • #1274021

          If I read these posts correctly, I can make one CD from any Dell OEM disk(SP1, SP1a, SP2) and use the resulting Slipstream XP Pro SP3 disk on any Dell machine that has a Win XP Pro sticker attached to it. At any point do I need to go to Microsoft site and change the key to the key that is attached to the sticker on the computers?

          It depends on the way Dell have programmed their OEM media but in most cases I would say your installation will activate automatically when connected to the internet (because they have injected their own product key like jpjustice57 has referenced to) but worst case scenario would be you have to type in your Dell OEM product key from the COA sticker on the machine and activate that. In any case you will not have to go to the Microsoft site as you put it and change your product key as it will be all done locally on the Windows Activation screen.

          Theoretically, you can only install an OEM version of Windows on the PC where it was originally installed.

          I am not sure what you are getting at Joe? in the scenario tfspry has put forth he is using the media (after updating it via slipstreaming) on Dell machines which have their respective OEM COA on them.

          Large vendors such as HP/Dell/IBM all use the technique which pjustice57 has pointed out as it makes their image mastering process much simpler.

          • #1274051

            I am not sure what you are getting at Joe? in the scenario tfspry has put forth he is using the media (after updating it via slipstreaming) on Dell machines which have their respective OEM COA on them.

            Theorectically, each large OEM (i.e Dell, HP, etc.) install CD/DVD is tied to the BIOS of a particular PC. You are not supposed to be able to install that OS on another PC.

            Joe

            --Joe

            • #1274094

              Theoretically

              I’m glad I live in reality it makes my job easier. I understand the metrics behind the activation processes reasonably well and to be honest they are beyond the scope of this thread so I’m going to leave it be. The OP knows what they need to at this stage to achieve their objective.

              The above is not a personal dig at what you are saying I am merely pointing out the theoretical vs. reality when it comes to this process in my experience.

            • #1274096

              I’m glad I live in reality it makes my job easier. I understand the metrics behind the activation processes reasonably well and to be honest they are beyond the scope of this thread so I’m going to leave it be. The OP knows what they need to at this stage to achieve their objective.

              The above is not a personal dig at what you are saying I am merely pointing out the theoretical vs. reality when it comes to this process in my experience.

              I’m not taking anything personally. It is not a matter of whether the PC has a valid COA. At least in the USA, OEM CD/DVDs are pre-activated. When you power up an OEM machine for the first time you never see any activation activity. That is why each OEM OS copy is tied to a particular machine.

              Joe

              --Joe

            • #1274818

              Be very careful with a dell disk like yours, slipstreamed or not. I was an HP ASP for about 6.5 years and had to do bios recovery on many HP computers where the customer put a Dell restore disk in an Hp and it wiped out much of the bios info such as model serial, build id, and so forth. Windows wouldn’t load the dell disks and would no longer load the real HP restore disks until a special program from HP, only available to Authorized Service Providers, was run and all the data was manually typed back in, and flashed back into the bios. In other words, the wrong manufacturers disk may “brick” the computer until it is re-programmed by only a factory authorized tech. Most of the modern HP restore disks will only work on one specific model because the hardware drivers are pre-setup and there are no “extra” drivers, so HP has a system that the restore disk reads the bios info to see if the right disks are in the right machine. If not the install stops and an error message pops up.

    • #1273994

      Theoretically, you can only install an OEM version of Windows on the PC where it was originally installed.

      Joe

      --Joe

    • #1274934

      Going down a totally different road than most of the poster here……
      Copies of All the OS’s are as common as Juicy Fruit Gum. It doesn’t matter what disk you load the OS from., as long as you have the correct Registration Key for it.
      Copies of XP Pro + SP3 are all over the internet, just for the downloading.

      No I won’t tell you where. But if you only want the DVD, it’s not that hard to find.
      NO, I’m not advocating piracy, NOT at all !
      But the legality of any OS is in the key, not the DVD. Eh?

      Just a thought. But suit yourself.

      😎

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        I slipstreamed my Dell OEM CD in 2006 using autostreamer.
        It was fast and easy, and worked perfectly.
        Good luck!

        same here, TJN. I also use AutoStreamer to easily slipstream SP3 onto the WinXP Home Edition upgrade CD for my desktop computer and the WinXP SP1 Home Edition OEM CD for the laptop computer. Though I burn/write/create the newly slipstream XP SP3 CDs with Nero afterwards and they both worked great.

        • #1275667

          Three tools that I’ve found to be very helpful are Driverpacks, WSUS Offline[/U], and Ninite. I keep the first two updated and burned onto DVD-RW’s, and the last, its installer set up with each clients software, set to run every night. (That way, all of their Ninite-installed software is always <24 hours out of date.)

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