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    Not having much luck finding what setting somehow got changed.

    On a XP laptop where one user ID belongs to a domain, I was not able to change the password that was about to expire. After re-joining the domain I was then able to change my password (I also use a XP desktop but was logged out at the time).

    Since then the option to Shut Down is not available (button & from drop down list), only Logoff the current user. After that user is logged off & you give the 3 finger salute (ctrl alt delete) the shut down option(s) are then available.

    This is for all accounts on the machine, not just the 1 for the domain (that is a Admin account. This also happens with my local admin account).

    This is annoying having to go through a 2 step process to shut down from what it should be.

    Any ideas on what I need to change back?

    TIA!

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    • #1196339

      Not sure if this helps, but you can shutdown your computer with the command Shutdown.exe -f -s

      To see all the shutdown options, open a command window and type shutdown.

      I use this command to shutdown after doing evening backups.

      You could write a batch file and create a desktop shortcut pointing to it.

      Peter

    • #1196394

      Hi Peter, I am familiar with that one & even have it as a shortcut on my desktop computer giving me a 30 second window (helps when remote desktop to that machine to force a re-boot).
      (%windir%system32shutdown.exe -r -t 30 -c “Rebooting computer”)

      Unfortunatly to me this is not as “graceful” of a shut down as I would like to do on this machine & would like to restore the shut down options from just Logoff (Shut Down, Restart, Stand By, Hibernate).

      After I logoff & ctrl-alt-delete again I do then have these options. I just don’t know where to make the changes to get those options back when logged into the machine.

      Thanks.

      • #1196472

        After I logoff & ctrl-alt-delete again I do then have these options. I just don’t know where to make the changes to get those options back when logged into the machine.

        See if the left side of item #131 at Kellys-Korner XP Tweaks helps.

        JOe

        --Joe

    • #1196722

      This being on a Domain network, the IT people may have done something requiring that one log off first.
      Check with the IT people.

      DaveA I am so far behind, I think I am First
      Genealogy....confusing the dead and annoying the living

    • #1196729

      DaveA, no out admins have not applied such a policy, but thanks for the idea.

      JoeP, thanks for the link. I will take a look at the registery setting that file attmepts to modify when I get home.
      [HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionPoliciesExplorer]
      “NoClose”=dword:00000000

      Currently my XP desktop that does not have this issue also does not have this particular key entry.

    • #1200471

      So far, still no luck.
      http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555449 – This is to edit the setting in gpedit.msc – User ConfigurationAdministrative TemplatesStart Menu and Taskbar This is set to not configured.

      http://support.microsoft.com/kb/303070 – This is about adding it back to the Classic menu. does not help in this situation.

      I did look at this:
      Start -> Settings -> Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Local Security Policy
      Expand the Local Policies and click “User Rights Assignment”
      Shut Down The System is applied to all user groups.

      Also under the Security Options – Shutdown allowed w/o having to log on is also enabled.

      I also tried adding – [HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionPoliciesExplorer]
      “NoClose”=dword:00000000

      JoeP, sorry that did not work either.

      I think for now I will create 2 desktop shortcuts, one to Shutdown & one for Restart as that option is also missing until I (or someone else!) can figure out what needs to be changed as the logging out & then shutdown is getting old.

      Update: When I try & use the shutdown.exe command I am now getting the message “A required privilege is not held by the client.”

    • #1202954

      I should also add that when I run:
      gpedit.msc

      Then Go to
      Computer ConfigurationWindows SettingsSecurity Settings
      Local PoliciesUser Rights Assignment

      Double click on “Shut down the system”

      It is listing the groups as the *S-1-…. Also the buttons for ADD USER or GROUP and Remove are also disabled. It does not matter what admin account I am logged in, bit it local or connected to the domain.
      When comparing this woth some other groups, it does appear that the Admin & other groups may have gotten removed?

      Not to bood in safe mode & see what happens, yeach!

    • #1202209

      Ok, after using the MS knowledge base article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/313222

      and then using the FixIt option, logging off & then a re-boot, I am now able to shutdown, restart & the other options now while logged in.

      I am guessing something got [messed up] in the local security settings back when I could not change the password until I re-joined the domain.

      That article above & it’s tool basically ressets to default many of the security settings. May not be the best solution for everyone that gets into this situation, but may help.

    • #1198422

      Thanks for catching my typo. It has been corrected now.

      Yes I meant that I can NOW shutdown without having to logoff first.

    • #1198418

      Ok, after using the MS knowledge base article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/313222

      and then using the FixIt option, logging off & then a re-boot, I am not able to shutdown, restart & the other options now while logged in.

      If you mean “I an NOW able to shutdown…”, then congratulations and thanks for posting back. If that is not what you mean I’m confused.

      Joe

      --Joe

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