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Lots of headlines today. Today is the day they hold their event to announce new product releases. Rumor has it that iPhone 15 will be announced. Next
[See the full post at: September patches, Apple headlines and Browsers!]
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
AKB 2000003 has been updated for Group B Win7 and Win8.1 on Sept 12, 2023.
See #2586838 and #2586840 for information on Win7 and Win8.1 updates (Logged in Member access required).
Hardened Windows user:
KB5030219 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems
KB5031217 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8.1 for Windows 11, version 22H2 for x64
KB890830 Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 – v5.117
No hiccups.
Now running Windows 11 Pro Version 22H2 (OS Build 22621.2283)
I was reading the EHLO blog and scratching my head on that one as well.
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
Updated PC2 in my signature, Windows 10 Home (after making a Macrium Reflect backup, of course). I went back to Windows 10 from Windows 11 on both PC’s about a month ago, by the way.
No problems so far. However, I notice “Windows Backup” has been added to the Start Menu and it seems to be impossible to remove, just like the Settings icon in Windows 10 and the Get Started icon in Windows 11. I really wish Microsoft would stop doing that.
I guess “Windows Backup” will just have to be something else to ignore until someone finds a way to get rid of it – after I disabled the service which was set to Manual. And I’ll probably need to check from time to time to make sure it stays disabled. I also checked to make sure OneDrive hadn’t “magically” reappeared (it hadn’t). I always remove OneDrive and most of the other bloat (XBox, etc.) after a clean install of Windows.
I also removed the useless (to me, at least) Microsoft Update Health Tools which had made yet another reappearance with this month’s updates (wonder how long it will be before that becomes impossible to remove?).
I also updated my browsers (Edge and Firefox) and checked to make sure no more useless bloat had been added and turned on by default – especially Edge – and I’ve now locked down Windows and the two browsers until next month.
I’ll update PC1 tomorrow and see how that goes.
I’ll be talking about it in Patch Watch.
And where is Patch Watch?
Susan’s section of the weekly newsletter when it discusses patches:
Installed Sept 2023 updates on W10 Pro 22H2.
Winver 19045.3448
Everything is ok.
It’s documented in the preview release notes.
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
It would be nicer if they would link that in the 22H2 and not something buried in the 21H2 details. One has to click and expand a lot to find it.
Their breadcrumbs documentation is light on breadcrumbs.
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
They do not re-post what got slid into the preview updates and place the documentation in the main security patches. I just know to keep an eye on the previews for non security changes as THAT’s where it’s documented, not in the security patches even though it’s “new” to us.
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
Updated daily driver today. It took an hour and a half!
Edge is still banished and Wordpad is likewise.
Now on to Canary…
UPDATE:
Well this is embarrassing…Seems like my mucking around getting rid of EDGE was a bit too much for Windows Update. If you notice the build number in the picture above you’ll notice, as I eventually did, that it is not the latest. When I updated Canary I saw this:
So I went back to the daily driver and checked the Update History and lo and behold:
So I cleaned out the SoftwareDistribution folder and tried it again with the same result.
Macrium Reflect to the rescue! I restored the C: drive back to 9/1 before I started mucking around the tried the updates again and BINGO!
When I calm down a bit maybe I’ll try the Edge experiment again on the Daily Driver then again maybe I’ll use Canary instead!
As we love to say here on AW Backup, Backup, BACKUP!
Updated daily driver today. It took an hour and a half!
Observation: The CU took a lot longer than usual to install
Took a good hour then, where it usually takes 15-20 mins.
guesstimate: I think that the slow update is attributed to removing edge.
I can live with slow updates if that’s the case YMMV
Ditto – a very very long time. Defender CPU usage was very high the entire time; this has been noted over on the https://groups.google.com/g/patchmanagement list.
Tomas Ulbrich Sep 13 12:20PM -0700
Hello All!!
Curious if anyone is experiencing high (100%) CPU load (5 to 20 minutes at a time), whereby Defender is utilizing 70 – 80% of it, when installing Cumulative Updates?We are running at or n-1 the latest Defender engine, and have the newest Defs.
This seems to be a recent occurrence — the last 2 patching cycles [August/ September]
Cheers,
Tomas
Sep 13 05:05PM -0400
September updates on 11 took longer than usual (nearly 40 minutes, previous updates were nowhere near that on this same machine).
On 10 the time wasn’t too much longer compared to previous months but I did notice high Defender CPU usage during install.
Mod edit: HTML tidy up and email addy’s removed
Did my first Win10 22H2 update to 19045.3448 today. This is one that has Edge removed. Don’t see Edge anywhere.
Timeline:
4:55pm Windows Update download/install button
5:15pm Restart now
5:16pm 30%/Reboot
5:17pm Login screen
Lack of Edge didn’t seem to have an effect. Running Defender – showing no excessive resource use in Task Manager.
Updated daily driver today. It took an hour and a half!
Observation: The CU took a lot longer than usual to install
Took a good hour then, where it usually takes 15-20 mins.
guesstimate: I think that the slow update is attributed to removing edge.
I can live with slow updates if that’s the case YMMV
This is strange. I’ve updated two Windows 10 22H2 systems so far and they took the usual 15 to 20 minutes.
Agreed, YMMV. I’ll keep updating the remainder of my systems and see if this changes. Thanks.
Took a good hour then, where it usually takes 15-20 mins
Took about 25min on my W10 Pro 22H2 (i7 8th gen, 32GB RAM).
I’ve updated 4 Win 10 machines 22H2. 3 laptops, 1 desktop. No issues. Smooth installs all around. Usual length of time. 20-ish minutes.
Desktop Asus TUF X299 Mark 1, CPU: Intel Core i7-7820X Skylake-X 8-Core 3.6 GHz, RAM: 32GB, GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050 Ti 4GB. Display: Four 27" 1080p screens 2 over 2 quad.
Win 11 Pro 22H2, laptop with i7 – 12700H.
This update took ~18 minutes from taking the leash off Windows Update until reaching a reboot ready state. No unusual Defender activity noted while I watched the entire process. I have not made any major alterations to what might be considered a “stock” install such as removing Edge or third party UI mods. The system restarted at least twice during the reboot phase and the progress counter moved rather slowly, I believe it was around four minutes total to get to a login screen.
No difficulties noted, smooth sailing after restart.
Updated 1 Win 11 and 1 Win 10 with no observed issues. Then updated my Win11 workstation and it sat forever at 70-71% installing, then after reboot hung at “installing 0% done” for quite a bit. All in all took about 50 minutes. Much longer than normal but everything seems to be working fine.
See #2587432 for comparison.
Did my second Win10 22H2 update to 19045.3448 today. This is one does not have Edge removed. (Laptop/wireless Haswell i7, 4GBRAM)
Timeline:
1:11pm Windows Update download/install button
1:47pm Restart now
1:49pm 30%/Reboot
1:50pm Login screen
Slower computer with less RAM, presence of Edge didn’t seem to have an effect. Running Defender – showing no excessive resource use in Task Manager.
Hi Susan:
Windows Update successfully installed the following September 2023 Patch Tuesday updates on my Win 10 Pro v22H2 laptop and I haven’t observed any negative effects so far **:
** Note: KB4023057 (2023-08 Microsoft Update Health Tools v3.73.0.0) was previously installed by Windows Update on 06-Sep-2023 per Kobac’s 07-Sep-2023 topic KB4023057.
My Sept 2023 Patch Tuesday updates took just under 1 hour to run to completion, which is more than double what I normally observe. I have a relatively slow 10 Mbps internet connection and the inclusion of the new Windows Backup app with KB5030211 probably slowed things down. At first glance this app looks like more bloat from Microsoft that I’ll never use (see my 25-Aug-2023 post #2583486 in Foothills Dave’s What Backup Program Do You Recommend).
As usual, I saw the early “Restart Now” glitch shown in the attached image that always occurs when Windows Update delivers a .NET Framework update with my other my Patch Tuesday updates (see my 11-Aug-2023 post # 2579020 in August 2023 Updates Are Out for a past example) but I checked at Settings | Update & Security | Windows Update and waited until the status of the KB5030211 monthly Quality Update changed to “Pending Restart” before I restarted my system.
After I clicked the “Restart Now” button the final installation / configuration re-booted my system at “Working on updates – 30% Complete. Don’t turn off your computer” before running to 100% completion, initiating the final cleanup, and re-booting a second time. This has happened the past 2 or 3 Patch Tuesdays, and the first re-boot always occurs at 30% completion.
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Dell Inspiron 15 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3448 * Firefox v117.0.1 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23080.2006-1.1.23080.2005 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.2.281-1.0.2131 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7279
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