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    I have been very happy camper using OneNote since its inception in 2003. I have a considerable amount of information in multiple notebooks. Prior to converting to Windows 8.1, there was no problem in searching for any information in the OneNote notebooks using Windows search. For some strange reason, Microsoft felt it prudent to eliminate the search capability of OneNote notebooks using Windows Search and now one must actually enter OneNote in order to search through its files. This has been quite a productivity loss.

    My first question is why would Microsoft do such a dumb thing? Then, more importantly, what are the search alternatives other than simply searching for OneNote information with in OneNote itself?

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    • #1460541

      Are you sure the notebooks are in a folder which is being indexed?

      Joe

      --Joe

    • #1460545

      yes, no problem with that. The fact that Windows search No longer works with Microsoft OneNote was in article about Windows 8.1 but I cannot find that article anymore. The fact remains that Windows search is not producing any results from OneNote.

    • #1460554

      Open Indexing options in control panel, choose Advanced, then File Types tab. Scroll down to the OneNote file types and for each one, choose the option to Index Properties and File Contents. After doing this for the multiple OneNote file types, choose Ok. The index will need to be rebuilt, which is bound to take some time, but it should solve your problem.

      • #1460578

        Open Indexing options in control panel, choose Advanced, then File Types tab. Scroll down to the OneNote file types and for each one, choose the option to Index Properties and File Contents. After doing this for the multiple OneNote file types, choose Ok. The index will need to be rebuilt, which is bound to take some time, but it should solve your problem.

        The OneNote extensions are already checked, but never ever any search results. This is a “new” feature in Windows 8.1. I wish I could find someone who knows why Microsoft did this.

      • #1462780

        I am trying to follow these instruction, but when I open the advanced configuration, I fine a listing of something like a hundred extensions – all checked – as marked as “index properties only”. Since I do not know what files many of the extensions are related to (some are images, for example), I wonder if it would be “safe” to change ALL of them to “index properties and contents”…

        I am trying to attach the image, but don’t know if I am being successful…

        Please advise. Thank you!

        37583-AdvancedOptions

        Open Indexing options in control panel, choose Advanced, then File Types tab. Scroll down to the OneNote file types and for each one, choose the option to Index Properties and File Contents. After doing this for the multiple OneNote file types, choose Ok. The index will need to be rebuilt, which is bound to take some time, but it should solve your problem.

    • #1460579

      The extensions are checked but, by default, they are set just to index the file properties and not the contents. Changing that, so that file contents are also indexed, is what I advised.

      • #1460909

        The extensions are checked but, by default, they are set just to index the file properties and not the contents. Changing that, so that file contents are also indexed, is what I advised.

        yes, they were set to simply index the file properties. I changed it to contents and then Windows reindexed all of the files. But, unfortunately, that did not solve the issue as there are still no notebook pages showing up in any search. I have 8 different notebooks containing thousands of pages and tested this by opening a random notebook page and picking out a phrase to use for the keyword search. Windows did not find it (but the Microsoft OneNote search did obviously) .

        I wish I could find the article I read announcing that Windows search 4 would not search Microsoft OneNote or Outlook PST files in Windows 8.1.

    • #1460914

      I think you may need to give search some time to rebuild the index in full. I did that and now I have OneNote documents being returned in search results. My operating system here is Windows 8.1.1.

      37506-Capture

      This means that what you read was based on the default search configuration for the file types of OneNote and Outlook – yes you will have to do the previously recommended procedure for .pst files (and .ost as well, if you have those).

      The bad thing here is that every time you change the advanced file type settings, the index needs to be rebuilt – not a very smart option, I say. Having the list of documents and its location, it seems that it would be very easy to just re-scan the documents for which the advanced properties were changed, but hey, this is Microsoft.

      If you keep OneNote documents in OneDrive, those will not be indexed, which makes sense, and that was the behavior of search in Windows 7, as well.

      Mistery solved. You made me change my search configuration for Outlook and OneNote files and I thank you for that. It doesn’t affect me that much, since I usually search from within OneNote, but it is still useful.

    • #1460959

      Thanks for your post. I, too, am using win pro 8.1.1 x64. My OneNote files are in a local dropbox folder. Indexing has completed but it does not produce any results. OneNote is part of Office 365, but I’m sure that does not make a difference.

      I wish I could solve thi.

      • #1460968

        Thanks for your post. I, too, am using win pro 8.1.1 x64. My OneNote files are in a local dropbox folder. Indexing has completed but it does not produce any results. OneNote is part of Office 365, but I’m sure that does not make a difference.

        I wish I could solve thi.

        You should make sure that folder is included in the list of folders being indexed by Windows Search.
        All I can say is that my experience proves Windows Search can deal with OneNote files in Windows 8.1. Right now, the index is being rebuilt because I changed the setting for Outlook files, so that email is indexed too. I will do a quick test when that completes, but I am pretty sure email messages will be dealt with satisfactorily, as well.

    • #1460973

      Yes, the folder is included.

    • #1461039

      Sorry to insist, but have you tried to search for one of the OneNote files’s filename? That should be indexed regardless of the search configuration, so trying it can tell you whether your OneNote files are indexed or not and if they aren’t, then you have a better clue to what may be going wrong.

      • #1461043

        Sorry to insist, but have you tried to search for one of the OneNote files filename? That should be index regardless of the search configuration, so trying it can tell you whether your OneNote files are indexed or not and if they aren’t, then you have a better clue to what may be going wrong.

        Thanks Rui. I have experimented again with my indexing options so the index is rebuilding at present. I will come back to this question once the index is complete.

        Question: are you attempting a search through the search charm? Or, do you have a start button replacement where you are attempting to the search?

    • #1461054

      Yeah, I am using the search charm. I don’t use start button replacements on my laptop.

      • #1461087

        Yeah, I am using the search charm. I don’t use start button replacements on my laptop.

        well, unfortunately, the last couple of changes did not help produce any Microsoft OneNote results. I get absolutely nothing when using the search feature in charms.

        one final question – what version of Microsoft Office (and specifically Microsoft OneNote(are you using?

    • #1461089

      I am using Office 2013, installed as a Click To Run package.

    • #1461238

      by the way, I came upon one other interesting search result indicating that in Windows 8.1 it will only index OneNote files when the OneNote application is open. So I tried that and sure enough with the OneNote application open, the total items indexed increase by over 8000 and I was able to finally see Microsoft one note entries in a charms search. I wonder why that is necessary to have the Microsoft one note application open? If I remember correctly, this was not necessary in Windows 7. Windows search 4 with index PST and Microsoft one note files whether the application was open or not.

    • #1461257

      Sorry to say it, that doesn’t make sense to me and I find it should be classified the same way the original statement about OneNote files not being indexed in Windows 8.1 – highly dubious.

      That said, I can’t say whether my OneNote was open or closed during my own experience. OneNote and Outlook are the office apps I use the most and thus they are usually open, but I can’t say whether I closed then during the night, over which my laptop was left on to allow the indexing to complete.

    • #1461426

      What can I say? It does seem hard to believe, but here are a couple of links for you to check. The first is from slipstick indicating that Windows 8 does not support Outlook searches.

      The second link is from a Outlook Developer who claims that window search will only index OneNote files that are open. As I mentioned before, this surprises me as this was not the way it was in Windows 7.

      All I know is that once I opened my OneNote files my items indexed increase by 8000 items and using the search charm, I started finding search entries from onenote. But if you read the developer’s answer then the next time I want to search OneNote using the search charms, Windows search will not find any OneNote entries if OneNote is closed. I haven’t tested to see if this is true.

    • #1461612

      I don’t know how truthful the OneNote thing really is, as I stated before. About Outlook, if a add-on is able to search, it seems the problem is not the indexing the but the native Windows 8 search feature. It may make it worthwhile to add the start button add-on, if that is a feature that you deem valuable.

      I confess I mostly search from within OneNote and Outlook, and the fact that I keep most my notebooks stored in OneDrive, doesn’t allow them to be indexed anyway, so searching from within OneNote is really the most effective way for me.

    • #1461615

      Rui – I appreciate the help you had provided to me. The conversation was very useful.

    • #1462796

      You need to decide which documents do you want to have the contents indexed. If you let us know, maybe we can provide help with the extensions you need.

      As far as I can tell, Windows won’t allow you to do that for more than one extension at a time.

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