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    This is a follow-up to my earlier thread, “Can my PC protect an Android tablet?” I’ve split it off that thread because the information may be useful enough to warrant its own presence in the AW forum listings.

    Regular readers of this forum will know of my great interest in avoiding/minimizing surveillance on the devices that I use. So when thinking about buying the Android tablet, I wondered if if might be possible to run it the same way I run all my Windows machines: with no account linking me to the OS’s powers-that-be.

    From the way that others around the Internet write about their phones, for a long time I’d thought it was impossible to run an Android device without establishing a Google account. The train of thought runs along these lines: “Why do you have a problem using a Microsoft account? You already have a Google account on your phone!” The implied assumption is that a Google account is necessary to use an Android device. Well, as it turns out, it’s not—at least, not for a tablet that has no phone functionality.

    As I was setting up the tablet, I reached a screen asking me to sign into or set up a Google account. Intriguingly, there was an option to Skip this step, so I selected it. After a description of all the cool things I’d be missing out on if I didn’t connect to a Google account, I went ahead and told it to proceed without said account.

    Android veterans may consider this old-hat, but as a non-expert I was delighted to discover that at this point the tablet did not brick itself, collapse into a pile of dust, or otherwise refuse to continue working. It simply proceeded to work.

    The main drawback I can see from avoiding signing into a Google account (or setting up an account with the manufacturer, Samsung) is that I can’t install apps from the Google Play store (or from the Samsung store). So downloading a browser other than the ones the device came with (Google Chrome and Samsung Internet) involved going to the app developer’s site to download their APK (Android Package Kit) for the app. And in order to install the APK, I had to go into Settings –> Security and privacy –> More security settings –> Install unknown apps, and then allow the installation of apps obtained via Samsung Internet. In the same Security and privacy menu, I also made sure that Auto Blocker was set to Off.

    After installing the desired apps, I enabled Auto Blocker and disabled SI from installing apps so that no further, unwanted apps could be installed later without my participation.

    By this method, I’ve installed my newspaper’s app and the DuckDuckGo browser. To install these I had to go into the Android app repository apkmirror.com. (Before going in there, I used a PC to check the safety of the site in VirusTotal, which gave the site a perfect threat score of 0 from 96 different malware scanners.)

    I should add that traditional anti-virus software doesn’t seem to be necessary here. Now, I only have experience with Samsung devices—other brands may have protections that are comparable, or not—but this one comes with Knox Security which appears to have most of the cybersecurity bases covered.

    In addition, the DDG browser for Android has a neat feature, App Tracking Protection, which scans all the apps on the tablet for third-party trackers and then blocks them. In the few days I’ve had the tablet, it’s already blocked nearly two thousand tracking attempts from my newspaper’s app. I can also pick and choose the apps to be scanned by DDG’s tracking protection.

    If I ever decide to take the tablet away with me, though (say, on vacation), I may face a choice whether to create a Google or Samsung account in order to run a VPN for even more protection.

     

    • This topic was modified 6 months, 1 week ago by Cybertooth. Reason: fix typo
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    • #2704903

      Very interesting indeed, much appreciated.  But, it seems to me that you’re likely sending just as much (if not more) telemetry to Samsung.  It’s amazing what runs in the background and at startup.  I too have a Samsung tablet and the “provided” bloatware is what I despise.  Plus, it slows down the tablet.  The only solution in my opinion, is to completely go to a custom version/OS (Unlock>Custom ROM), and that seems daunting and poorly documented.

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      • #2705053

        Yes, a custom ROM is a hard road to hoe.

        I’m not that concerned about Samsung telemetry because I haven’t given them any personal details, not even for a warranty registration, let alone a Samsung account. Maybe if they somehow link my purchase to the tablet, but for all they know I could have bought it as a gift for someone else such that whatever info they might put together this way would be totally irrelevant!  🙂

         

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      The main drawback I can see from avoiding signing into a Google account (or setting up an account with the manufacturer, Samsung) is that I can’t install apps from the Google Play store (or from the Samsung store).

      Don’t know about the Samsung store, but it’s entirely possible to install Android apps without having a Google account or using the Google store to get/install them.

      How to download Android apps without the Google Play Store

      This is what’s know as sideloading and you’ve already taken the 1st step, enabling the installation of unknown apps.

      After that it’s a simple matter of either going directly to the developers site for the APK (if they offer it) or one of the many third-party libraries for Android apps like APKMirror, APKPure, Aptoide, F-Droid, or TapTap.

      If your phone/tablet is unlocked (i.e. you have “root access“), you can even use APKinstaller for PCs to extract apps from another phone/tablet to your PC and then slideload them onto a different phone/tablet (BTDT!)

      Note: all of the above only works for free apps. For paid apps you must go thru the Google/Samsung store and pay for them or they won’t work!

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    • #2705063

      When I got a new tablet, I just set up a new gmail account for it which I do not use for anything else. Not sure how effective this is in protecting me from google’s surveillance but I assume it helps.

      Windows 10 Home 22H2, Acer Aspire TC-1660 desktop + LibreOffice, non-techie

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    • #2705370

      Yes, interesting topic Cybertooth, thank you for posting. Surprisingly the Mozilla Foundation (think Firefox, Thunderbird) has an interesting review article about:

      Samsung Galaxy Tablets –
      Warning: Privacy Not Included with this product
      Review date: Nov. 1, 2023
      A fairly long article with lots of info concerning Samsung privacy.

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      • #2705394

        @Lars220, thanks for the information. I read Mozilla’s report and the first link that they give to Samsung’s privacy policy.

        As far as I can tell, all of these admittedly worrisome practices apply if one opens a Samsung account. But since it’s a tablet, I decided to try doing without a Samsung account to see what happened. So far, everything seems to be working fine, and any activity that they can trace to my tablet isn’t connected to my name, at least with regard to an account with the tablet’s manufacturer.

        I doubt that it’s possible to get this far on a smartphone. I’d be curious to find out for sure but, to run the experiment, I’d need not only to round up the pennies to purchase an Android phone, but also to find the time to set up a new phone with its own number. It’s an expensive proposition in both time and money just to satisfy my curiosity!

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