rotating a picture (any)

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I have two people working on a Word document, who send it back and forwards via email. They both run Word XP.

On the final page of the document is an image of a table. When they created the document it was, as you’d expect, in portrait format. But that image fitted better as landscape, so they rotated the page orientation. On the machine [M1] that did the rotation, it displays as expected. But not on the other machine [M2].

On M2, the other pages show as landscape, but not the final page with the image. It still shows as portrait.

I’ve looked at it on a machine running 2003 version and it displays it as expected.

I have checked all the page set up setting (page size, margins, etc) and they are the same on both M1 and M2.

I thought that I could just rotate the image when the document is displayed on M2, but the option is greyed out.

What else could be causing this?

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When you say, they rotated the table, what exactly did they do? Were all the pages changed to landscape, or just one section?The normal way to put a table on a landscape page is to have a next page section break before (& sometimes after) the table. Since portrait & landscape are section properties, the single section can be made landscape.

If the final page shows as portrait, but all other pages are landscape, then there must be a section break before the table. Perhaps it has become corrupt. You could delete the section break, copy everything into a new document, & then reinsert the section break before the table & change it’s orientation.

If that doesn’t work, are there any macros or add-ins that are running that might change the page orientation?

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When you say, they rotated the table, what exactly did they do? Were all the pages changed to landscape, or just one section?The normal way to put a table on a landscape page is to have a next page section break before (& sometimes after) the table. Since portrait & landscape are section properties, the single section can be made landscape.

If the final page shows as portrait, but all other pages are landscape, then there must be a section break before the table. Perhaps it has become corrupt. You could delete the section break, copy everything into a new document, & then reinsert the section break before the table & change it’s orientation.

If that doesn’t work, are there any macros or add-ins that are running that might change the page orientation?

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According to your explaination it sounds as if Phil hit the nail on the head. Probably to do with section breaks.
I have another suggestion that you can try if you don’t want to fuss with the section breaks!
Copy the image of the table, and choose paste special. Select Picture (Enhanced Metafile).
Once pasted, select the image and apply wrapping to it, by right clicking on it, choosing Format Picture and selecting the Layout tab in the dialog box. Select Tight and OK.
You should now be able to rotate the table image!

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According to your explaination it sounds as if Phil hit the nail on the head. Probably to do with section breaks.
I have another suggestion that you can try if you don’t want to fuss with the section breaks!
Copy the image of the table, and choose paste special. Select Picture (Enhanced Metafile).
Once pasted, select the image and apply wrapping to it, by right clicking on it, choosing Format Picture and selecting the Layout tab in the dialog box. Select Tight and OK.
You should now be able to rotate the table image!

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Good call on the section breaks, but not the problem. There are no section breaks in the document.

The whole document is landscape.

I may have confused the issue somewhat by talking about a table. The table is an image inserted in the document. It was scanned from elsewhere and is an image, not a table.

There are no macros running either.

What I dont understand is why one machine will display the document differently to the other. Surely Word will display an document according to the ‘instructions’ set in it. If there are page breaks, it shows page breaks. If there are section breaks, it shoudl show section breaks. It should be the same, no matter which machine? Or have I missed something?

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Good call on the section breaks, but not the problem. There are no section breaks in the document.

The whole document is landscape.

I may have confused the issue somewhat by talking about a table. The table is an image inserted in the document. It was scanned from elsewhere and is an image, not a table.

There are no macros running either.

What I dont understand is why one machine will display the document differently to the other. Surely Word will display an document according to the ‘instructions’ set in it. If there are page breaks, it shows page breaks. If there are section breaks, it shoudl show section breaks. It should be the same, no matter which machine? Or have I missed something?

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Just had another close look at the doco on M2. It shows all the pages as landscape, not the final one as portrait, as I had led you to believe – sorry.

On M2, it is just the image of the table that is showing the wrong way. It needs to be rotated 90 degrees to the right, but option to rotate is greyed out. Yet it displays correctly on M1 and in Word 2003 on another machine.

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Is there a setting on one machine under Tools/Options/Save tab that says to disable certain features not supported by an earlier version?

Also, you originally said both machines were running Office XP. Later you said that one was using a 2003 version. Are both machines running the same Word version when they open the document?

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Is there a setting on one machine under Tools/Options/Save tab that says to disable certain features not supported by an earlier version?

Also, you originally said both machines were running Office XP. Later you said that one was using a 2003 version. Are both machines running the same Word version when they open the document?

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If you select the image on M2, do you notice any other Drawing menu items that are unavailable compared with a freshly inserted image? Maybe we can figure out a pattern…

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The two machines are running XP. I also used a third machine, using 2003, to see what it showed.

and it is only the rotate button that is greyed out.

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You can try this. First, go to Tools/Customize…/Drawing Category/ & the last one on the right side is DisassemblePicture. Drag it to the Drawing toolbar.
Now select your picture, click Disassemble Picture, & then choose the Group button. Can you rotate it now?

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You can try this. First, go to Tools/Customize…/Drawing Category/ & the last one on the right side is DisassemblePicture. Drag it to the Drawing toolbar.
Now select your picture, click Disassemble Picture, & then choose the Group button. Can you rotate it now?

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The two machines are running XP. I also used a third machine, using 2003, to see what it showed.

and it is only the rotate button that is greyed out.

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If you select the image on M2, do you notice any other Drawing menu items that are unavailable compared with a freshly inserted image? Maybe we can figure out a pattern…

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Just had another close look at the doco on M2. It shows all the pages as landscape, not the final one as portrait, as I had led you to believe – sorry.

On M2, it is just the image of the table that is showing the wrong way. It needs to be rotated 90 degrees to the right, but option to rotate is greyed out. Yet it displays correctly on M1 and in Word 2003 on another machine.

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