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    I received some email (and even a couple of Tweets and a post on Facebook!) asking how to get Windows systems updated, now that we’re at MS-DEFCON 5.
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    • #98791

      where can i exactly find a step by step guide for installing this recent win7 patches?
      now i’m totally confused and will stay on halt…

      • #98821
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        • #98837

          for windows 7 i find:
          only 1 important – windows malicious software removal tool.
          optional:
          kb2952664 (again), today i hid it again – how often do i have to hide it?
          kb3185278 – unchecked; september? i thought i installed september patch. hide it or install it?
          nvidia display drivers – unchecked; should i install display drivers via windows update?

          no office patches for office 2010 it seems.

          for windows 8.1 i find:
          3 important: windows defender, adobe flashplayer, msrt – all checked
          optional:
          intel system (again), have to hide this again.
          nvidia display drivers – unchecked; same question as above.
          kb2976978 (again), have to hide this one aswell again and again and again and again…
          why do i hide any updates at all when everything becomes unhid again? it’s pointless.

          • #98840

            kb2952664 (again), today i hid it again – how often do i have to hide it?

            KB2952664 is in v21. Each time it is re-released, it has the same number but it is different and needs to be hidden again.

            kb2976978 (again), have to hide this one aswell again and again and again and again…

            Same thing here.

            kb3185278

            This is an update for Win7 SP1, not the cumulative patch Sept Security Monthly Quality ROLLUP. You should install it.

            I do not recommend installing the drivers unless you are having a specific problem. If you have a problem, check the OEM mfg’s or the device mfg’s website to see if they have an update.

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            • #98844

              okay, thanks. i hid what had to be hidden and i hid nvidia drivers aswell.
              this leaves 3 checked important updates in 8.1 (msrt, flash player, defender which i now install.
              windows 7: i will install the one checked important update (msrt) and also i will check and install the only one remaining optional (kb3185278). but for windows 7 i’ll wait until tonight, as i expect having to reboot the system due to patching. right now i don’t have the time for this.

            • #98868

              another question, does kb3185278 not have some kind of bug in windows 7?

            • #98871

              You are correct. There was a problem it you are running EMET. The information is here with a couple of suggested workarounds.
              https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/3185278/september-2016-update-rollup-for-windows-7-sp1-and-windows-server-2008-r2-sp1

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            • #98873

              is this emet part of windows or office 2010? if not, it would not be installed on my computer, so i might have no problems with it? how can i check if emet is installed and running?

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            • #98880

              so emet is not part of windows per default? then i don’t have to worry about kb3185278, right?

            • #98882

              so emet is not part of windows per default? then i don’t have to worry about kb3185278, right?

              That’s correct, the Enhanced Mitigation Experience Toolkit is an MS tool designed to improve data security in Windows, it’s not part of Windows, you would need to download and configure it separately, it’s also listed to be deprecated soon (old tech?).

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    • #98828

      I used to post the details here on AskWoody, but for the past few months I’ve branched out to a wider audience, and posted the step-by-step procedure in InfoWorld.
      In case you missed it, the details are in this InfoWorld Woody on Windows article.
      http://www.infoworld.com/article/3176774/microsoft-windows/how-to-block-automatic-updates-in-the-next-version-of-windows-10.html

      That article is about stuff that even Windows 10 users can’t do for another month.

      Microsoft established the Group B method last October.

      Established by Microsoft? How?

      This makes it sound as though Microsoft has somehow made official the practice of not installing recommended patches.

    • #98957

      @ PKCano:  I tried an install of 3185278 onto my HP Desktop with Windows 7 SP 1 x 64 Home Premium; and the return message stated that  “this update is not compliant with this computer”.  I guess that this means that it would not benefit Win 7 SP1 x64 Home Premium. All that want to try it; it either installs or won’t.  I am kind of ‘willy- nilly’ in reinstating my system. I try something, if it won’t work then I go to the next.  I really would like to find a good test laptop to test items on.  Not too expensive of one but decent one.

    • #99055

      Woody, are you telling us that those in Group B (that includes me) should just shift to Group A and install all patches from Microsoft without question?

      Personally I will never move to Group A, and if necessary will reject any security patches that causes a problem with my system. As a Windows 7 user, I don’t think I will miss any kind of “functional enhancements” by skipping Group A patches and sticking with security patches only.

      Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.

      • #99056

        Microsoft promotes being fully patched. OF COURSE!

        But choosing Group A or Group B is a matter of personal choice as long as the choice is available. In the future, Microsoft may not give us that choice. But that day hasn’t arrived yet. If it does, we will be left with the choice of A of W.

        I have also chosen Group B. And as I get used to it, it seems less and less of a hassle.
        Make you own choice.

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    • #99087

      Just my thoughts:  When MS says all updates should be installed (Win 7, 8.1) I think that what they are saying is that the door WILL be closed on these OS’s and the only OS’ on the market will be Win 10 operating systems and software.  That is the reason that MS has high-jacked Intell and other hardware and software developers!  You get a new computer that is clean (nothing installed) and you try to install Win 7 or 8.1 on it, neither is accepted by the new hardware/software OS’s.  Just my understanding.

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